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Cuango said:
Don’t look now, but they have Iowa as their number 2! Hard to imagine a better draw than that!
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Yeah, the new bracketology was very favorable for South Carolina. An extremely easy path to the final four.
 
Vowelguy said:
They are not. For one, while you can rank each category, how do you combine them? And there are non-tangible criteria. Like eye test. Like injuries.
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Isn't this something the Selection Committee does? If they do, then an algorithm can be created.
And if you went back to my previous posts in this thread, I was posting my opinion as a result of another post concerning absolute rankings. To quote it "The teams are supposed to be ranked absolutely."
 
Centerstream said:
I'm not sure how the selection committee works, and don't care to know, but maybe they are taking into account that UConn has played Iowa and SoCar has played LSU (and could play again)?
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Don't panic yet.

None of these brackets being discussed now are prepared by the ncaa selection committee, rather they are best guesses by media pundits.

Plenty of action still going on thru mid March that will impact the final actual bracket.
 
Stagnant said:
Yeah, the new bracketology was very favorable for South Carolina. An extremely easy path to the final four.
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bracketology and actual seeding are two different things. There are two regular season games and one to three conference tournament games remaining for almost-all of these teams. Have any of these bracketologies ever been the same three weeks in a row?
 
Does what # 1 seed Uconn gets really make a difference? Whether they are the first 1 seed or the 4th 1 seed....

If I remember correctly, Uconn was a 2 seed last year in Spokane.

I believe the end result was Uconn winning the National Championship.

No matter how you slice it and dice it, the 3 or 4 best teams will have to beat each other anyway sooner or later...
 
1974yankees said:
Does what # 1 seed Uconn gets really make a difference? Whether they are the first 1 seed or the 4th 1 seed....

If I remember correctly, Uconn was a 2 seed last year in Spokane.

I believe the end result was Uconn winning the National Championship.

No matter how you slice it and dice it, the 3 or 4 best teams will have to beat each other anyway sooner or later...
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I would say it does matter more often than not. What about recent seasons prior to last year when UConn didn't win the title? Wouldn't you have hoped for different opponents (seeds) than the ones who ended up knocking the Huskies out of the tourney?

This year, it probably doesn't matter as UConn will most likely get an SEC and B1G team as its 2/3 seeds.
 
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Cuango said:
I thought we, as the top seed, got the weakest #2? Is that not right?
Imagine my surprise when I see LSU in our bracket and Iowa in South Carolina’s bracket! In what universe is Iowa better than LSU?
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The Big 10 is getting what seems like grade inflation, but the proof will show in March.

I’d certainly rather worry about Iowa or Ohio State than LSU.
 
1974yankees said:
Does what # 1 seed Uconn gets really make a difference? Whether they are the first 1 seed or the 4th 1 seed....

If I remember correctly, Uconn was a 2 seed last year in Spokane.

I believe the end result was Uconn winning the National Championship.

No matter how you slice it and dice it, the 3 or 4 best teams will have to beat each other anyway sooner or later...
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I think you’d rather play the least number of teams that have the highest chance of beating you if your goal is a title, but overall it’s rich people problems.
 
southie said:
That's how it was done using the traditional S-curve in both men's and women's brackets. Women changed shortly after Big East members UConn and Rutgers faced off for the fourth time (I think) in a season culminating in an Elite 8 matchup as the 1/2 seeds in their region.
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I think they should do the selection the way my fantasy NBA league does - Top seeded team gets to pick their opponent and then just go down the list...2-seed picks then 3 and so on.
 
Centerstream said:
Isn't this (combining different criteria) something the Selection Committee does? If they do, then an algorithm can be created.
And if you went back to my previous posts in this thread, I was posting my opinion as a result of another post concerning absolute rankings. To quote it "The teams are supposed to be ranked absolutely."
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Combining different criteria is what each committee member does. Not the committee. Each member decides how much to weigh each individual criterion, including the eye test. Then each member votes, then the votes are tallied to come up with the ratings. So your algorithm would need to somehow get inside of each member's head and decide how that member evaluates each of the (ballpark) 16 criteria. Why not have the person vote rather than try to develop an algorithm that gets inside that person's head to simulate that person's vote? And how are you going to develop an algorithm for each person's eye-test evaluation of each team?
 
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southie said:
I would say it does matter more often than not. What about recent seasons prior to last year when UConn didn't win the title? Wouldn't you have hoped for different opponents (seeds) than the ones who ended up knocking the Huskies out of the tourney?

This year, it probably doesn't matter as UConn will most likely get an SEC and B1G team as its 2/3 seeds.
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It’s not really a question for UConn. Everyone assumes that if they make it to the FF, they’ll play someone who’s very good. So in the past 16 seasons UConn has made it to the FF on 15 occasions. The exception was 2023. UConn lost in the Sweet 16 to tOSU when Paige was injured. I don’t recall being particularly concerned with the Buckeyes prior to that game. But without Paige UConn struggled uncharacteristically trying to break tOSU’s full court press.
 
SCNCHuskie said:
You do understand the ramifications of being number one. UCLA and SC would have to play each other before UConn. We would only have to play one of them.
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That is the biggest advantage; if the seeds hold, the #1 overall would play the #4 overall in the Final Four semi's instead of the #2 or #3 overall seed. This post-season, if the Top 4 seeds are 1-UConn, 2-UCLA, 3-South Carolina and 4-Texas (could be Vandy) and all advance, then UConn would face off against Texas, the team who beat both UCLA and South Carolina on consecutive days in Las Vegas in late November 🤣

It's kind of like pick your poison as to which of the other #1 seeds UConn fans would prefer to meet in the national semi-finals -- UCLA's size in the frontcourt; South Carolina's athleticism; Texas' defense. I do think UCLA and South Carolina have been more consistent than Texas and Vandy in February.
 
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southie said:
That is the biggest advantage; if the seeds hold, the #1 overall would play the #4 overall in the Final Four semi's instead of the #2 or #3 overall seed. This post-season, if the Top 4 seeds are 1-UConn, 2-UCLA, 3-South Carolina and 4-Texas (could be Vandy) and all advance, then UConn would face off against Texas, the team who beat both UCLA and South Carolin in consecutive days in Las Vegas in November 🤣

It's kind of like pick your poison as to which of the other #1 seeds UConn fans would prefer to meet in the national semi-finals -- UCLA's size; South Carolina's athleticism; Texas' defense. I do think UCLA and South Carolina have been more consistent than Texas and Vandy in February.
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Assuming that UConn, UCLA, SC & TX all make it to the FF, and I would also throw in LSU, there are no easy matchups. If someone like Vandy or anyone else from the SEC, Big 10, ACC or Big 12 make it into the FF, then they would be the preferred team to face.
 
If current from holds UConn and UCLA likely to get LSU and Vandy as their #2 seed. The draw will attempt where possible to avoid SEC v SEC in the round of 8.

That would leave SC and TX to deal with say Michigan and Louisville.

But still plenty of action left to go.
 
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packwrap said:
If current from holds UConn and UCLA likely to get LSU and Vandy as their #2 seed. The draw will attempt where possible to avoid SEC v SEC in the round of 8.

That would leave SC and TX to deal with say Michigan and Louisville.

But still plenty of action left to go.
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And, B1G versus B1G, as well.
 
Woof said:
It is more than just not having to play both teams. It is also about them playing each other and having to expend a lot of energy to advance.
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In a perfect world, yes. Last season it was a 2-seed UConn beating overall 1-seed UCLA 85-52, and overall national #2 seed South Carolina beating the overall national #3 seed Texas 74-57. Who expended the most energy to advance?

In the end, you kind of want to avoid the team who is playing their best basketball of the season heading into the tourney (like UConn one season ago); even that isn't absolute as some teams fizzle unexpectedly after winning their conference tourneys.
 
southie said:
That is the biggest advantage; if the seeds hold, the #1 overall would play the #4 overall in the Final Four semi's instead of the #2 or #3 overall seed. This post-season, if the Top 4 seeds are 1-UConn, 2-UCLA, 3-South Carolina and 4-Texas (could be Vandy) and all advance, then UConn would face off against Texas, the team who beat both UCLA and South Carolina on consecutive days in Las Vegas in late November 🤣

It's kind of like pick your poison as to which of the other #1 seeds UConn fans would prefer to meet in the national semi-finals -- UCLA's size in the frontcourt; South Carolina's athleticism; Texas' defense. I do think UCLA and South Carolina have been more consistent than Texas and Vandy in February.
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I am sorry, but the Texas team that beat UCLA and South Carolina early in the year is not the same team I’ve watched over the last seven or eight games. They lost the Vandy and beat Tennessee by two. At this point right now UConn, UCLA, and South Carolina are playing the best basketball in the country. I much prefer that SC and UCLA play each other, and I don’t care who the other number one team is.
 
SCNCHuskie said:
I am sorry, but the Texas team that beat UCLA and South Carolina early in the year is not the same team I’ve watched over the last seven or eight games. They lost the Vandy and beat Tennessee by two. At this point right now UConn, UCLA, and South Carolina are playing the best basketball in the country. I much prefer that SC and UCLA play each other, and I don’t care who the other number one team is.
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I agree with who has played better in February, and I said as much. I have no problem with Texas being seeded lower than those two teams; all three teams have gained some players back from injuries or an unexpected international mid--season enrollee since those games in November.

It's easy to pick one or two games to try and make a point. Texas also beat Top 8 LSU by 13 points prior to the Vandy and Tennessee road games you listed. "Over those last seven or eight games" Texas also beat Top 15-20 Kentucky and Oklahoma who defeated South Carolina.

As fans, we will have different preferences as to who we want to be paired with in our part of the bracket. For me, if Texas absolutely has to match up with UConn, I'd rather it be in the Elite 8 in Fort Worth, TX.

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Samoo said:
I think they should do the selection the way my fantasy NBA league does - Top seeded team gets to pick their opponent and then just go down the list...2-seed picks then 3 and so on.
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That would cause some drama and intrigue for sure.
 
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Bone Dog said:
Whoa! Congrats to Vandy Michigan a Louisville.

And if all goes ‘chalk’ UConn’s path to the NC passes through SC and UCLA again, though in a different order. And maybe even OU and LSU too.
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In my estimation, if this were the actual brackets, UConn would have the hardest bracket to get thru but like last year beat em all!!!!
 
southie said:
I agree with who has played better in February, and I said as much. I have no problem with Texas being seeded lower than those two teams; all three teams have gained some players back from injuries or an unexpected international mid--season enrollee since those games in November.

It's easy to pick one or two games to try and make a point. Texas also beat Top 8 LSU by 13 points prior to the Vandy and Tennessee road games you listed. "Over those last seven or eight games" Texas also beat Top 15-20 Kentucky and Oklahoma who defeated South Carolina.

As fans, we will have different preferences as to who we want to be paired with in our part of the bracket. For me, if Texas absolutely has to match up with UConn, I'd rather it be in the Elite 8 in Fort Worth, TX.

texaslonghorns.com

2025-26 Women's Basketball Schedule - University of Texas Athletics

The official 2025-26 Women's Basketball schedule for the University of Texas Longhorns
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For me, the only real bad performance for Texas was whatever happened at Vandy. Otherwise they've played pretty darn well.
 
Gamecockfan77 said:
For me, the only real bad performance for Texas was whatever happened at Vandy. Otherwise they've played pretty darn well.
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That's fair. As a sometimes "critical" fan of the program I support, I've seen Texas start games slow and fall behind, and then have to have to fight back to catch up and win. I've seen us gain early leads (some bigger than others) and then have to hold on for dear life in the final couple of minutes. I actually think winning in different ways is good for the players, but as a fan we all want to never trail in a game 🤣
 
LSU is the most dangerous of the #2 seed pool (Vandy, Mich, L’ville, Iowa). So I hope they aren’t in UConn’s regional until the FF or championship game.
 
The 2 seeds that are dangerous are SEC teams. And due to rules they can not be placed with 1 seed SEC teams. So, in a way… the sec teams get rewarded for their conference schedules.

So; I really hope Dawn doesn’t complain if she is the #3 overall seed. Just look at Iowa as the 2 seed in your region and be excited! (Iowa, just an example.)
 
I hope that everyone who is saying that LSU is dangerous aren't the same folks saying that Tennessee doesn’t deserve to make the tourney.,
 
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