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Message: [QUOTE="upstater, post: 2525891, member: 153"] Carnegie and the AAU don't share their numbers? They come through every few years with a fine-toothed comb. 3 analysts per department stick around for a couple of weeks. SUNY is like UConn in that it is NOT one of the most well funded systems out there, and that is saying a lot given the $8k tuition (which is actually $10k when you count fees). It is not like the great B1G schools, of course, but I think its lower USN ranking has more to do with so many NY students heading to private school. That doesn't happen in the midwest. Also, Buffalo is just now building out its medical school. Its law school suffered a bit when it experienced a huge cut from the state at the same time the state was plowing money into Saint John's Fisher Law in Rochester. An absurdity. It was noted that practically all the big pols in NY on both sides of the aisle went to private schools, hardly any to SUNY. US Senator, Governor, top congressman, Senate Majority leader, Att. General, Congress leader, etc. And I'm not talking about Ivy League privates either. But places like William & Mary, Washington College in MD., Yeshiva, St. John's, Fordham, etc. [/QUOTE]