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Message: [QUOTE="Whtdmd, post: 2525609, member: 8024"] Look I am not doing to bash Rural Penn too much. There is an old saying that Penn is Philly and Pittsburgh with Alabama in between. One of the reasons for the Alabama in Penn is Penn St at state college. State college is sucking all the PSU system money dry. The other rural state college r jokes. The best n brightest in penn go to state college n abandon their home regions. SUNY has 4 meds schools disperse into different areas. Albany, Buffalo and Syracuse r all research universities with significant private investment n research money. The avg SAT scores n acceptance rate for the 4 main SUNY r actually higher then state college. Upstate NY has multiple charming regions that is locate nears the universities. The trade off for the dispersal in SUNY money is no B10 football team. There is not much Alabama in NY state either [/QUOTE]