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Well - as usual I have different ideas from @azfan. Not about the new hire - it was a good one. Not a home run on paper, but given her attitude and drive I can only see a steady improvement during her tenure. This season, not so much, of course, but going forward. . . What her ceiling is, if any, would be the only question.

And I'm just being blunt. As an example, Jim Foster was a wonderful coach for decades, may even be in the WBB hall of fame, close friend of Geno's, coached National Teams for things like the Pan Am Games, etc. - but his ceiling was pretty much the Sweet 16. There was a streak when he was at Vanderbilt where he got there almost every hear. Not sure he ever sniffed a Final Four. Not sure Adia will ever reach another one. Not sure Burke will ever reach one. Remains to be seen.

But as to some of Adia's comments, I'm sorry, but I don't disagree with all of them. She always would have been served well not to have said things she said, but the audience at her radio shows (not said on air), chalk talks and other events didn't share widely. Even I edited them. She was brutally honest as she saw things, and oblivious to the fact that remarks could be hurtful to others, especially if you didn't know what she was talking about.

I'm not sure she was talking about her successor specifically, but hires this year have been weird. Still, many coaches in the power schools come from mid-majors and how you decide they are qualified beats me. That said, in todays NIL world, there is a wide difference between coaching at a mid major with mid-major talent and a P4 school, regardless of talent.

Adia has always praised the play in the PAC versus the Big 12, whose style she didn't care for and certainly said so. We were not built to contend against a number of the Big12 teams and, guess what, we didn't. I have said many times, I just didn't think Barnes built a team and used them well.

Where I strongly disagree with your comment is the development of players - she was fairly good at the technical aspects of that; I don't know what your unprepared is about but it wasn't game planning. Every chalk talk we attended was spot on. If weak at anything that way, it was keeping players "on point" and making half time adjustments. And Arizona doesn't have much NIL available, never mind athletic funds, at least at the present time.

My last comments, because Adia is not my coach. Just as she wished Arizona well, I wish SMU well. I suspect she will have some success, whether as much as SMU wants or not remains to be seen.

I will continue to root for Arizona and for the new coach to succeed. After the abandonment of the program by players over the years (and perfectly understandable abandonment) I'm no longer going to care who the players are, only that they produce.
 
I have to say: what a strong example of hypocrisy on the part of the fashionista. She begins her self-destructive analysis by saying she wants to support women in sports.

Really.

So bad-mouthing the coach who has the opportunity to succeed you is supporting women in sports?

Now let's think about this a little bit. When the fashionista received her head coaching offer down in the dirty t she had far less experience than Burke.

So according to the hypocrisy that underlies the fashionista's clear philosophy of supporting women the kitties were wrong to hire an underqualified coach who only had experiences as an assistant at the University of Washington.

This is really amazing and I think when the fashionista crashes and burns in the Big D she will have an opportunity, I think, to go to Hollywood where her kind of philosophy and expectations for reward inform everything. My wife listened to the press conference with me and she said that the fashionista's voice reminded her of the head lawyer from the TV series Suits.... Slick, self assured, very confident.

If I were in the administration at SMU I would really be questioning this hire. Because inevitably Barnes will be gone from the Big D and I would be wondering if she is going to be saying the same thing about the institution that gave her a chance? This is breathtaking hypocrisy.

She certainly demonstrates a lack of gratitude, self-awareness, and common sense when the ponies ride off and leave her. She will probably be listening and singing along to Bruce Springsteen .... Glory Days.

Really telling was her analysis of conferences indicating the level of play in the old pac-12. The excellent play in the Big 12 and she seemed to be saying the ACC with focus on guards and not posts was an easier league. I love the way she characterized saying it fits our style.

And what is that style? Having seen the kitties play in person it appears that her style is to have underdeveloped underprepared players who are very inconsistent in their motivation. I'm wondering if that's the style she's referring to. With the turnover in rosters coming from the portal and nil it still remains to be seen what kind of team the Barnes trademark lack of development and lack of preparation will be. She later goes on to Crow that her connections with the WNBA and previous playing career will provide opportunities for her players. Really since McDonald who has Barnes helped get and stay in the wnba?

Barnes agent deserves to be in the agent Hall of Fame and I think the fashionista should start doing self-help videos on how to creatively represent and elevate past performance.

Now this will be interesting how much money the SMU ponies give the fashionista to hire players. I have a strong suspicion it's going to need to be a very large budget if she's going to have success. She talks about how focused she's going to be going out to pay players to fill her roster. And she actually spoke of specific schools and a desire to have top five players. Hum...... Love to know which billionaire is going to bankroll her. SMU clearly will not have the budget of SEC schools and in fact while it is Texas I'm wondering even with a doubled payroll will Barnes be able to put together consistently a team that will a stay and win.

I will say I love listening to this press conference and her responses and I'm guessing that the administration at SMU probably wishes they'd heard this kind of analysis before they hired her.

I love how she claims that she developed players: they got better and left. She also indicated how hard it is to keep players in this era of the portal. The first is patently false and the second is the only partially accurate.

Hopefully there's some detectives that follow the ponies and maybe the ACC who can determine how big a sucker SMU was. I'm wondering would they have given her a 5-year contracted a million per?

I also love her ability to give a bald face lie with a smile. Near the end of the interview she indicated I wasn't looking for a job when SMU came. It's very interesting in terms of the issue of credibility. Geno has it. Barnes doesn't.

Barnes really set herself up for a termination when she said we have enough resources here to achieve the plan. So we'll all be watching closely will next year be a .500 team? Will the ponies be .500 within the next 4 years? Will the fashionista lead the ponies into the ACC championship game in the next 7 years?

We may never know as I will be surprised if she's given more than 4 years? And she basically said she doesn't need four years because they've given her everything she needs right now.

This is one of the reasons I can't wait for the 2025-2026 season.
HOF response right here! You nailed it. I don't doubt that Adia can get SMU back to the postseason conversation, but she's convinced that she can throw money at the "problem" when a significant part of the "problem" is her. Self awareness isn't a strong suit, apparently.

I'm interested in seeing how she puts together her staff because that will let me know if she's got what it takes to win in the ACC (I was underwhelmed by her responses regarding SMU's potential in the ACC). I like to use UVA versus Virginia Tech when speaking on the importance of staff composition. UVA hired its current coach in 2022 from Missouri State. She brought her entire staff to UVA and has made few changes since then. The result? A record that's barely over 0.500 (48-46 in three seasons)--zero seasons with an ACC record of 0.500. By contrast, Virginia Tech hired its current coach in 2024 from Marquette. She hired three assistants with significant ACC ties (only one of them spent one season with her at Marquette). The result? A 0.500 ACC record and a spot on the NCAA bubble in a season where the team was supposed to be an abomination thanks to Kenny Brooks' antics.

I'll be following SMU to see which path will be taken by the former Arizona HC.
 
I'll be following SMU to see which path will be taken by the former Arizona HC.
Apology! Lol.....she is sorry. She is a sorry hypocrite.

SMU Coach Apologizes for 'Unqualified' Mid-Major Hiring Comment After Arizona Exit​

SMU women's basketball coach Adia Barnes apologized for her scathing comments about "unqualified" mid-major coaches, which went viral earlier this week.

The hiring committee at SMU is shaking their head. This is absolutely a reflection both on the inadequacy of their vetting of the fashionista and a very clear reflection on her character or lack thereof.

This is not a sincere apology but obviously damage control.

So what has SMU received for the 1 million plus they're playing fashionista

Damage

Real bad publicity

A spin cycle

Hypocrisy

A false apology

Rinse and repeat
 
Apology! Lol.....she is sorry. She is a sorry hypocrite.

SMU Coach Apologizes for 'Unqualified' Mid-Major Hiring Comment After Arizona Exit​

SMU women's basketball coach Adia Barnes apologized for her scathing comments about "unqualified" mid-major coaches, which went viral earlier this week.

The hiring committee at SMU is shaking their head. This is absolutely a reflection both on the inadequacy of their vetting of the fashionista and a very clear reflection on her character or lack thereof.

This is not a sincere apology but obviously damage control.

So what has SMU received for the 1 million plus they're playing fashionista

Damage

Real bad publicity

A spin cycle

Hypocrisy

A false apology

Rinse and repeat
“It wasn’t what I meant”? “Ugh”? I guess that’s better than “It was taken out of context.”
 
I'm looking for Tamara Inoue at UC Irvine to take a step up. For no reason other than she's my 3rd cousin's daughter. She seems to be a good coach.
 
“It wasn’t what I meant”? “Ugh”? I guess that’s better than “It was taken out of context.”
Hypocrisy! I think it's very clear that the fashionista was wounded when her alma mater wouldn't extend her for 5 years at 1.8 Mill in spite of the mediocrity over the last 3 years as the win total in the dirty t decreased over the last 3 years from 22 wins to 19 last year. This at a time when she was on.e of the three highest paid coaches in the Big 12.

What I found so insulting and laughable was her first assertion that women basketball was somehow being injured by hiring women from mid major schools. Unbelievable and reflects both the narcissism and blindness of a coach who received a job at her alma mater with limited experience. She wasn't even a head coach but an assistant at Washington. And yet she feels extremely comfortable in indicating that a head coach with 11 years experience and great success in turning programs around is unqualified.


If you listen to the original interview in which she honestly displayed her wounded ego in denigrating mid major coaches she outlined her game plan which is laughable.

She said the non-conference schedule has a goal to win 11 games, in order to achieve a 20 win season. This recognizes at least from Barnes perspective that she's going to struggle to go .500 in conference. This is the Kim Mulkey approach to gaming the system to get into the tournament although Mulkey is much better coach than the fashionista.

Contrast the self-serving approach of the former dirty t inhabitant and fashionista to that of elite coaches like Geno or Dawn who recognized the preseason as an opportunity to develop your team and players and prepare for April thereby scheduling real competition.

The fashionista is properly worried or perhaps even terrified that the new portal and NIL environment will reveal her deficiencies, that is lack of ability to develop and motivate players. I know some kitty fans disagree with me here but having watched Barnes "led" teams get destroyed by my NAU Lumberjacks twice last year and let's keep in mind that the Jacks while a 27 win team are a Big Sky squad led by a mid major coach who Barnes seems to have contempt for in spite of her hypocritical self-serving apology. So former coach from the dirty tea probably is worried about what's going to be revealed as we move forward over the next five years. Molly Miller the new head coach at ASU took her 31 Grand canyon squad down to the dirty tee and showed resiliency and character and beating the Big 12 underperforming kitties led by Barnes. Miller another mid major coach who in the fashionista is unqualified and should not have received her position at in-state rival Big 12 ASU out coached out motivated an out led the kitties.

Love to be in the room as the SMU administrators are shaking their head thinking what were we thinking?
 
I'm looking for Tamara Inoue at UC Irvine to take a step up. For no reason other than she's my 3rd cousin's daughter. She seems to be a good coach.
I agree. I know the family of one of her players and they've had great things to say about her.
 
Well - as usual I have different ideas from @azfan. Not about the new hire - it was a good one. Not a home run on paper, but given her attitude and drive I can only see a steady improvement during her tenure. This season, not so much, of course, but going forward. . . What her ceiling is, if any, would be the only question.

And I'm just being blunt. As an example, Jim Foster was a wonderful coach for decades, may even be in the WBB hall of fame, close friend of Geno's, coached National Teams for things like the Pan Am Games, etc. - but his ceiling was pretty much the Sweet 16. There was a streak when he was at Vanderbilt where he got there almost every hear. Not sure he ever sniffed a Final Four. Not sure Adia will ever reach another one. Not sure Burke will ever reach one. Remains to be seen.

But as to some of Adia's comments, I'm sorry, but I don't disagree with all of them. She always would have been served well not to have said things she said, but the audience at her radio shows (not said on air), chalk talks and other events didn't share widely. Even I edited them. She was brutally honest as she saw things, and oblivious to the fact that remarks could be hurtful to others, especially if you didn't know what she was talking about.

I'm not sure she was talking about her successor specifically, but hires this year have been weird. Still, many coaches in the power schools come from mid-majors and how you decide they are qualified beats me. That said, in todays NIL world, there is a wide difference between coaching at a mid major with mid-major talent and a P4 school, regardless of talent.

Adia has always praised the play in the PAC versus the Big 12, whose style she didn't care for and certainly said so. We were not built to contend against a number of the Big12 teams and, guess what, we didn't. I have said many times, I just didn't think Barnes built a team and used them well.

Where I strongly disagree with your comment is the development of players - she was fairly good at the technical aspects of that; I don't know what your unprepared is about but it wasn't game planning. Every chalk talk we attended was spot on. If weak at anything that way, it was keeping players "on point" and making half time adjustments. And Arizona doesn't have much NIL available, never mind athletic funds, at least at the present time.

My last comments, because Adia is not my coach. Just as she wished Arizona well, I wish SMU well. I suspect she will have some success, whether as much as SMU wants or not remains to be seen.

I will continue to root for Arizona and for the new coach to succeed. After the abandonment of the program by players over the years (and perfectly understandable abandonment) I'm no longer going to care who the players are, only that they produce.
Well said, and pretty much how I see things, but with a much less informed perspective than you.
 
Burke contract details. Appears the kitties will save around 200 Grand over the fashionista in the first year assuming that SMU paid the fashionistas buy out.


It appears that coach Molly Miller will receive a similar type contract $750,000 per year with escalators and unspecified bonus.

On the fiscal front the kitties trim their women head coach cost by around 200,000.

ASU on the other hand increases this line item by 750,000 due to the two years remaining on the nice coach from Delaware's salary.
 
Kris Lamb Caruso of UConn fame hired at CCSU.

I wish her well, but she has a bad track record. 32-79 at Marist and 34-60 at Longwood, where she was fired over a "personnel matter."
 

A sign that Brenda Freese may be retiring in a couple of years and is setting up her successor? Or maybe this is just an opportunity for Carley to accelerate her career while making equal or better pay at a flagship university in the women's game?
 
A sign that Brenda Freese may be retiring in a couple of years and is setting up her successor? Or maybe this is just an opportunity for Carley to accelerate her career while making equal or better pay at a flagship university in the women's game?
She's only 55. Seems early to retire. I think it's more a career move for Kuhns. She's had 4 straight sub-500 seasons. She probably didnt have much more time at Samford.
 
A sign that Brenda Freese may be retiring in a couple of years and is setting up her successor? Or maybe this is just an opportunity for Carley to accelerate her career while making equal or better pay at a flagship university in the women's game?
Probably the latter. Brenda's not going anywhere anytime soon.
 
I am excited about Coach Molly Miller and her hiring at ASU! Having gone to a few of her coaching clinics over the years, she is the "IT!" Her attention to detail. Her ability to connect with the young players and create a style of play that the players like at Grand Canyon University. I can only imagine what she is going to do at ASU. If she can get the ASU players to buy in, ASU is going to be exciting to watch!
 
I am excited about Coach Molly Miller and her hiring at ASU! Having gone to a few of her coaching clinics over the years, she is the "IT!" Her attention to detail. Her ability to connect with the young players and create a style of play that the players like at Grand Canyon University. I can only imagine what she is going to do at ASU. If she can get the ASU players to buy in, ASU is going to be exciting to watch!


She's added some experience to her staff with Coach Norman leaving Louisville and heading back to her alma mater.
 
How many "associate head coach"es can a team have? I thought it was usually one.
 
How many "associate head coaches" can a team have? I thought it was usually one.
Get with today's program - "however many you want". Everything has changed.:rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes:

Honest answer - yes, tradition was 1. There were 3 power schools with 2 this past year I think (my spreadsheet is a bit corrupted). I am pretty sure I saw one school - at some point - had all their assistants listed as Associate Head Coaches.
 
Sounds like associate head coach has become about as meaningful of a title as executive producer in the movie biz.
 
Interview with new Grand Canyon coach Winston Gandy. (3 minutes)

During the pregame show for the baseball game with ASU. I remember the day when the real estate mogul and part-time president of ASU said he would never recognize Grand Canyon or participate in intercollegiate sports with the 'for profit' college. And ASU is not a profit maker?




 

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