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Henry said:
Is ND still not disclosing the extent of Miles' injury? Can the committee assume she's out if ND doesn't announce it?
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Maybe they're trying to pull a Stanford dodge like from 1998. Keep calling it "day to day" and maybe we'll get a higher seed. 2 of Stanford's best players were out near the end of that year , but Kristin Fokl's status was a mystery. So Stanford retained their #1 seed and interestingly that was the only time a #1 lost to a #16 (Harvard) in the Women's tourney.
 
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The most intriguing team is Duke, they should be Top 16 but don't manage to get to 50
 
SLY63 said:
Unfortunately, when you combine the polls and Charlie, you can see when the general consensus is heading (although ridiculous). IMO, this will be the direction the NCAA will go

SC, IND, IOWA, VA TECH -- STANFORD, UCONN, LSU (Would be 8, but can't be with SC), MD, UTAH

1-2 Matchups
SC-MD/UT
IND-LSU
IOWA-UCONN
VA TECH-STAN

I would love to get the 5 and play Va Tech who I think we could beat eaislUCONN beat
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UCONN beat Iowa at Iowa!
IND and VA tech haven't beaten anybody!
Stanford and LSU played easy schedules to run up their totals!
 
faithfulfan said:
UCONN beat Iowa at Iowa!
IND and VA tech haven't beaten anybody!
Stanford and LSU played easy schedules to run up their totals!
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I didn't say that was my opinion, just what I think the selection committee will do. I agree with you. Don't shoot the messenger. :)
 
Henry said:
Is ND still not disclosing the extent of Miles' injury? Can the committee assume she's out if ND doesn't announce it?
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That’s a great question. Injury disclosure is the one element of the Selection Committee’s seeding decisions that can be influenced by coaches as the Committee depends entirely on the HC to advise them about key players availability for the Tournament.

In the case of Olivia Miles, after watching the video of her injury and her reaction to it, I was certain that she’d blown out her ACL and was done for the season. To my amazement, the next day Coach Ivie was somewhat vague, suggesting they didn’t know if Miles would be out, more tests to be done, yada, yada, yada.

I don’t know if there has been an update on Miles injury lately. But I would be shocked if she plays again this season.
 
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Two coaches didn't even turn in rankings; possibly others didn't put any effort into it, just turned in the same rankings as last week, or turned them in early before the Big East was decided. I can't otherwise explain a team winning three games by 70 points and staying the same as last week when they were reeling.
 
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These coaches obviously don't watch UCONN or they are smoking crack. UCONN would crush 7 out of 8 teams ahead of it in a neutral court game.

The only poll that matters is the one that's at end of the season.
 
do they release the votes so you can who the coaches are and how they voted? Or would that be too embarrassing so they mark it "top secret/classified?".
 
The more they disrespect what UCONN has accomplished the more the players will be motivated to prove them wrong. One team is clearly better than all the rest and that is SC. The rest have all had their moments and all have had some bad losses which is what is hurting UCONN. But really I like them being a little down in the polls, but I sure wouldn't want to play them with a place in the FF at stake and someone is going to have to do that.
 
Rowdy831 said:
The more they disrespect what UCONN has accomplished the more the players will be motivated to prove them wrong. One team is clearly better than all the rest and that is SC. The rest have all had their moments and all have had some bad losses which is what is hurting UCONN. But really I like them being a little down in the polls, but I sure wouldn't want to play them with a place in the FF at stake and someone is going to have to do that.
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The narrative of "disrespect" has been a potent motivational tool for some coaches. Adia Barnes used it to good effect two years ago to get Arizona to the NC game.
 
If this is how it played out SC would have to beat UCONN and Stanford to reach the Final. I think SC would feel like the fix was in against them if that plays out. I still can't imagine UCONN not being on the top line based on the way they play and the teams they beat. They did have two bad losses but they were down to really 5 players.
 
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Most of the coaches were probably busy with their tournaments and just turned in last weeks input.

In addition to the UConn ranking not changing, I noted that Washington State which beat 4 teams, including 3 top 25 teams, to win the Pac12 did not even make the top 25.
 
oldude said:
Exactly, and unlike the Coaches Poll, net rankings are considered by the Selection Committee.
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The NET rankings are just as ridiculous as the coach’s poll. Unbelievable
 
MSGRET said:
At least they're #2 in the NCAA Net rankings, so there is still hope that they nab one of the #1 seeds.

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Brother and I were discussing that last night. in particular comparing UConn as a #2 with Indiana the #1. In nearly every metric UConn is superior, NET ranking, top 25 NET wins, SOS, common opponents, etc. I suspect UConn will get a #2 seed but they certainly deserve a #1 ahead of Indiana, VT, Maryland or Stanford based on most of the metrics.
 
oldude said:
As information, the Selection Committee takes the following factors into consideration when seeding teams:
  • SOS
  • NET rankings/4 quadrants (replaces RPI)
  • Entire body of work
  • Recent performance
  • Injuries (i.e. who’s out for the tournament and who is back)
From UConn’s perspective, SOS & NET are exceptional. At 29-5 with a number of wins over ranked teams, UConn’s entire body of work is solid.

Recent performance is a bit tricky. Are we talking about the last month of the season or the last 3 days? It’s certainly helpful that UConn closed on a high note with their performance in the BET.

Finally, the injury factor should work in UConn’s favor. In every game that UConn lost this season, Azzi was out for the entire game, with the exception of ND when she was out for the 2nd half. Caroline also missed several games that UConn lost. Everyone is back and the team should be as healthy as they have been all year for the start of the Big Dance.

I think you could make a case for UConn as a #1 seed. But quite frankly, I expect UConn to be no lower than a #2 seed. At that point, just like last year when UConn was a #2 seed, the Huskies have to go out and JUST WIN BABY!!!
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Also, Juhasz missed both the ND & Maryland games and Nika missed the Maryland game. Think about that, Maryland at home beat UConn by 7 when UConn was without 3 starters.
 
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oldude said:
As information, the Selection Committee takes the following factors into consideration when seeding teams:
  • SOS
  • NET rankings/4 quadrants (replaces RPI)
  • Entire body of work
  • Recent performance
  • Injuries (i.e. who’s out for the tournament and who is back)
From UConn’s perspective, SOS & NET are exceptional. At 29-5 with a number of wins over ranked teams, UConn’s entire body of work is solid.

Recent performance is a bit tricky. Are we talking about the last month of the season or the last 3 days? It’s certainly helpful that UConn closed on a high note with their performance in the BET.

Finally, the injury factor should work in UConn’s favor. In every game that UConn lost this season, Azzi was out for the entire game, with the exception of ND when she was out for the 2nd half. Caroline also missed several games that UConn lost. Everyone is back and the team should be as healthy as they have been all year for the start of the Big Dance.

I think you could make a case for UConn as a #1 seed. But quite frankly, I expect UConn to be no lower than a #2 seed. At that point, just like last year when UConn was a #2 seed, the Huskies have to go out and JUST WIN BABY!!!
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Beyond the fact that Azzi is a fantastic ballplayer and that Caroline is a highly talented player, as well ... the idea that those injuries left the Huskies with basically a skeleton crew, meaning a very small core of players were playing an incredible amount of minutes with little or no rest compared to their opponents ... it was so detrimental to their ability to perform at their peak level .... that's no longer the case so that definitely should be a consideration ...
 
Boreifs said:
The NET rankings are just as ridiculous as the coach’s poll. Unbelievable
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I disagree. While I will acknowledge that the NET rankings are somewhat complicated, they are also completely data based, objective measures that currently have UConn #2 behind SC.
 
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