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Message: [QUOTE="Dillon77, post: 2578599, member: 6620"] I've played hoops steadily since the hoop went up outside the house in elementary school. Played in middle and high school. Wasn't good enough to play varsity at ND, but the competition at the intramurals, Bookstore Basketball Tournament and pick-up games at that school was challenging (I had two all-state players on my intra- team). Have played in city leagues, corporate leagues since then and still play in a Sunday morning organized pick-up league (same 20 guys, divvy up the teams every week). A few guys around my age, much more in their 30's and older 20's. First step lost me years ago, but it'amazing how basic skills I learned years ago still keep a place for me in these games: post- and weakside defense; boxing out; passing and my running one-hander. While my main coaching gig has been travel soccer, I coached basketball extensively in New York City when I was there at various Y's. In fact, one of the aspects of hoops and lacrosse I brought over to my soccer teams was the "high press" (or "ride" as it's known in lax). If an oppositions's back line couldn't handle the ball or had no strategy to move it upfield, we were coming. Agree that the loosening of various forms of dribbling have changed radically, from steps (are you allowed to step across the ocean on some Eurosteps?) to changing pivot feet. Other developments: big guys are still great inside....and out. Not so much in the middle. Girls on the other hand, shoot consistently well from where-ever they're supposed to. We had a former All-Nevada PG play with us for years and her dribbling and driving abilities were first rate at age 30. And she said her "baby sister" was even better at getting off left and right handed layups. Light's out j-shooter just past the arc. Last comment on change in game and my ability to play it: while my legs get tired earlier than they used to, I save energy for the third game on because there is no boxing out then and I can make a living on offensive rebounds and junk put-backs. Same as it ever was....;):rolleyes: [/QUOTE]

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