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Message: [QUOTE="Dillon77, post: 2578018, member: 6620"] Huskeynut covered my basic thoughts regarding teachers. I'm the son of a teacher-turned principal-turned teacher again and a nurse who became a nursing instructor. Plus I'm married to one dedicated and talented 4th grade math teacher -- who is working on lesson plans as I type prior to a Valentine's Day dinner. Like any profession, there are some teachers or administrators that are not up to snuff, but I personally know far more who prove their mettle day in, day out. As for guidance counselors and their college counterparts, admissions counselors. Once again, I'm sure there are many that don't and shouldn't pass muster, but three of my four kids had absolutely stellar counselors in high school. Two of my kids were waitlisted at their dream schools and the high school counselors sprung into action, calling their contacts at said schools and researching the situation. They came up with a plan and -- while the ultimate responsibility was with the student -- did a thorough, professional and caring role in what proved to be successful quests for admissions. Both students, btw, had stellar academic careers, which I've found is not uncommon with "wait list kids." BTW, the counterparts of the HS counselor -- the admissions counselors-- were also very helpful, while being objective. So, count me in as someone who still believes strongly in educators. There will be more when I fill out my own background on this.... [/QUOTE]