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Message: [QUOTE="dennismenace, post: 2213145, member: 6158"] Glad to hear that Gibbs loves the program. I think the difference in terms of comparison is that CV was a [B][U]freshman[/U][/B] last year. He apparently has a tremendous work ethic and stays remarkably calm under pressure. Pure athleticism is a physiological gift that you are pretty much born with. Eventually we will see what level of that he has. CV is coachable and appears to have good BB IQ. Very, very good combination of gifts that are being put to work. Ray (Everyday Ray) Allen prescription for success: "work hard, stay calm". [/QUOTE]