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Going to be "going dark" for 2 years after the sale supposedly. Interesting. They really should just move the club out of LA. No reason to think that a new stadium would help their attendance any....

I think that it's smart to have Chivas take a Donovan. In the interim, the average attendance would skyrocket.

This new stadium will get built ten years before the Revs ever break ground.
 
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http://www.espnfc.com/league-name/story/2061689/headline

Going to be "going dark" for 2 years after the sale supposedly. Interesting. They really should just move the club out of LA. No reason to think that a new stadium would help their attendance any....

Like the idea of Chiva going away. Do not like the idea of them 'going dark' and then re-appearing (maybe) 2 years from now at another stadium in LA. LA is a tough sports town. Better off with one big name there (Galaxy) and move Chivas to an owner who will put the team in a city that wants a team (St Louis, Minneapolis, San Antonio, etc.).
 
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Like the idea of Chiva going away. Do not like the idea of them 'going dark' and then re-appearing (maybe) 2 years from now at another stadium in LA. LA is a tough sports town. Better off with one big name there (Galaxy) and move Chivas to an owner who will put the team in a city that wants a team (St Louis, Minneapolis, San Antonio, etc.).

Just promote Minnesota United. They are the best side in the NASL anyways. Hate to stray off topic but the word is that JK is calling up a player from Minn U.

I have no idea what MLS is thinking in LA. The LA/NY game last night had loads of empty seats. Sounded like 5 guys were chanting. It was a pretty sorry atmosphere, and is it just me, or does the stubhub center look like it was built in 1962?
 
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Just promote Minnesota United. They are the best side in the NASL anyways. Hate to stray off topic but the word is that JK is calling up a player from Minn U.

I have no idea what MLS is thinking in LA. The LA/NY game last night had loads of empty seats. Sounded like 5 guys were chanting. It was a pretty sorry atmosphere, and is it just me, or does the stubhub center look like it was built in 1962?

StubHub/Home Depot Center was build on 'cheap' land as part of a urban redevelopment plan in Carson CA with realtive easy access to highway. Very simialr to Red Bull Arena in Harrision NJ, which is an old industrial site. But, NYC has shown to be a 'better' sports city than LA (poor peformance in LA equals empty seats versus the NY Knicks) and it is closer to both downtown NYC and Newark than Carson and most importantly, it Red Bull have direct access to mass transit (PATH).
 
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StubHub/Home Depot Center was build on 'cheap' land as part of a urban redevelopment plan in Carson CA with realtive easy access to highway. Very simialr to Red Bull Arena in Harrision NJ, which is an old industrial site. But, NYC has shown to be a 'better' sports city than LA (poor peformance in LA equals empty seats versus the NY Knicks) and it is closer to both downtown NYC and Newark than Carson and most importantly, it Red Bull have direct access to mass transit (PATH).

Red Bull Arena is beautiful. Might be the nicest stadium in MLS along with Sporting Park. Toronto is renovating theirs to make it more like both of those.

So with Chivas on a break this will mean a few things which will be sort of interesting and frustrating at the same time.

With Orlando City and NYC FC starting next season, without a doubt at least SKC and probably Houston will move to the Western Conference. If Houston continues to improve and SKC remains strong then we will see a couple of really teams out West watch the playoffs. Also this will suck for Houston and Kansas City since we'll have to look forward to many 9 pm games against West Coast teams. The benefit is that Houston, Dallas and Colorado are natural rivals, and there already is a pretty heated fan rivalry between Portland, SKC and Seattle and RSL

West
Seattle
Vancouver
Portland
San Jose
LA
Colorado
Dallas
Houston
KC
RSL
(LA 2)


East
Montreal
TFC
NYC
NYRB
PHI
NE
DC
Chi
Orlando
Col
(ATL)
(Miami?)



Next season there will be 20 teams. In 2017 Atlanta will begin, and presumably LA 2 will will return. That makes 22. Don Garber says that they want to be at 24 teams before the end of the decade. So that only leaves two more seats at the table for the foreseeable furture. MLS will give Miami a team IF and only if they can get a stadium somewhere in downtown Miami. Other possibilities are Sacramento and Las Vegas.
 

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Fill me in.

Given that Chivas' problem was an inability to connect with the local community, Vincent Tan might be the last person I would want to come in and fix it.

When he bought Cardiff, he immediately changed the colors from blue (which they have been wearing forever) to red because he really "likes" red, plus red is a more Asian color (Welsh be damned). Making the color change more painful is that the team was known as the "bluebirds," which doesn't make sense anymore.

Compounding that he wants to change the team name to the dragons. He has so far added the dragon to the crest, but retains the bluebird in a confusing, crappy crest (below). The only hick-up in his master plan is that Cardiff actually has a soccer club called the dragons - the cities LGBT soccer club.

Then there are the actual football problems starting with the fact that he doesn't know anything about soccer. After Mackey crushed the championship in 12-13, Tan got too involved in the running of the club (apparently they should have been competing for the Premier League title right off the bat) and ran Mackay off the club in January. Cardiff was promptly relegated.

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Fill me in.

Given that Chivas' problem was an inability to connect with the local community, Vincent Tan might be the last person I would want to come in and fix it.

When he bought Cardiff, he immediately changed the colors from blue (which they have been wearing forever) to red because he really "likes" red, plus red is a more Asian color (Welsh be damned). Making the color change more painful is that the team was known as the "bluebirds," which doesn't make sense anymore.

Compounding that he wants to change the team name to the dragons. He has so far added the dragon to the crest, but retains the bluebird in a confusing, crappy crest (below). The only hick-up in his master plan is that Cardiff actually has a soccer club called the dragons - the cities LGBT soccer club.

Then there are the actual football problems starting with the fact that he doesn't know anything about soccer. After Mackey crushed the championship in 12-13, Tan got too involved in the running of the club (apparently they should have been competing for the Premier League title right off the bat) and ran Mackay off the club in January. Cardiff was promptly relegated.

200px-Cardiff_City_Crest.svg.png
 
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