Chief’s Briefs - Memphis Edition

[Husk1esB2B]

I'm okay with the loss. We are gonna lose 4 or 5 more this year.

What I'm not okay with is Hurleys temper and arrogance. And saying after the game that the 2x national champs should get a favorable whistle is a dogshit excuse.

He said everyone should separate this years team from last years but even he hasn't been able to do that yet.

Nope I think that’s a perfect line 2x champs should get more respect. He is not asking for favorable whistle, simply for a fair whistle. Yesterday is not fair, go check the FT numbers.. And tomake that call in that minute is clear bs, probably the ref is one of those Hurley haters, which is understandable no one likes being yelled at for the whole game. But you can’t make a call like that in that minute to kill the game, no you are a ref, you got to respect the players first, game should be decided by the players

There are lots of Hurley haters out there, but not me, and I don’t think anyone in this forum should. Unless you don’t take any pride from the titles he brings here

 

[CL82]

I love Dan Hurley the basketball coach, we all do. Dan Hurley the person is a different story..

How well do you know Dan Hurley the person? He appears to be a good husband and father as well as a loyal friend, but perhaps you know something the rest of us don't.

 

[RuffRuff]

Nope I think that’s a perfect line 2x champs should get more respect. He is not asking for favorable whistle, simply for a fair whistle. Yesterday is not fair, go check the FT numbers.. And tomake that call in that minute is clear bs, probably the ref is one of those Hurley haters, which is understandable no one likes being yelled at for the whole game. But you can’t make a call like that in that minute to kill the game, no you are a ref, you got to respect the players first, game should be decided by the players

There are lots of Hurley haters out there, but not me, and I don’t think anyone in this forum should. Unless you don’t take any pride from the titles he brings here

Everyone knows he’s the 2x champ, no reason for him to keep restating it as it’s hit cheeseball status or Karen. Do you know who I am?!? Starting to sound a little WWF is all I’m saying. Walk the sidelines like you are a 2x champ, not hair on fire. I love Hurley but yesterday was a lot.

 

[Mr. French]

Do people really think the impact of a loss in Maui outweighs what Hurley is mapping out for the whole year? Or do people just think he doesn’t actually have a mapped out, season long plan?

Everyone wants to win, but the total picture of the developing season is what he (and you SHOULD) cares about.

I’m sure his lineups and rotations, while not perfect or above critique, ARE considering long term developments too.

I’m annoyed we lost, but I’m not taking this as a definitive indicator on the whole season. Just based on what I’m reading, some people aren’t viewing in the same lens.

 

[Chief00]

Agreed officiating wasn’t great
But let’s be honest, Memphis got to the line more because they were more aggressive and consistently beat the guards off the dribble
This could easily have been at 15 point loss of not for a few great plays
I’m sure that scene will improve The ceiling is not very high. They don’t get better guard play.

I agree generally with your assessment but us playing aggressively is often used as an excuse why we have more fouls against an inferior team.
It is interesting that 40% of the starting line-up was the wrong call this season. Fix it and move on. And let’s not fall too much in love with Euro Ball again. It has its place in the puzzle, but fierce defense, intense rebounding and strength/good hands matter too. Let’s also not forget our identify of defense to rebound to fast break basketball.

 

[BlueandOG]

He's not saying we should get a favorable whistle, he's saying that we should stop routinely getting an unfavorable one.

This pearl-clutching is embarrassing. We're a Blue Blood and we deserve some respect.

I totally disagree with the idea that any program should get preferential treatment based on prior performance.

What is embarrassing is Coach's tantrums. Winners do not behave like that. Whiners do. We are winners and Coach should act like it.

 

[BlueandOG]

Everyone knows he’s the 2x champ, no reason for him to keep restating it as it’s hit cheeseball status or Karen. Do you know who I am?!? Starting to sound a little WWF is all I’m saying. Walk the sidelines like you are a 2x champ, not hair on fire. I love Hurley but yesterday was a lot.

I totally agree. Perfectly stated.

 

[Chief00]

I totally disagree with the idea that any program should get preferential treatment based on prior performance.

What is embarrassing is Coach's tantrums. Winners do not behave like that. Whiners do. We are winners and Coach should act like it.

Our play was to blame too and our starting lineup stubbornness, but it was a horrible officiated game and Driscoll has a long standing feud with Hurley and bad mouthed him over the summer a few years ago.
To call a T on Hurley at that point in the game was unprofessional after blowing the foul call in the first place. What did Hurley do differently than he did all game? The 40-24 foul shot spread was a result of a poorly constructed starting line up but also Driscoll’s unprofessional reffing.

 

[Tenspro2002]

I totally disagree with the idea that any program should get preferential treatment based on prior performance.

What is embarrassing is Coach's tantrums. Winners do not behave like that. Whiners do. We are winners and Coach should act like it.

You're either intentionally or unintentionally misreading what I said.

Hurley isn't asking for special treatment. He's saying that it's unacceptable that we're routinely subjected to an unfavorable whistle, and especially so for a program of our stature.

 

[boog204]

Seems kind of simple to me... Memphis had multiple strong, aggressive guards who took the ball to the hole. As a result they drew lots of fouls - some legit, some iffy. We don't have anyone on the team who really does that. Blaming the officials is lame. We were out played for the majority of that game because Memphis was a bad matchup for us. They were more athletic at nearly every spot and shot the ball really, really well. We're going to lose, I'd say, at least 5-6 more games this year. I kind of like the idea of getting one of 'em out of the way early so we can reassess and reevaluate. There are definitely some tweaks in store and I think we all knew that going into the meatier part of the schedule.

 

[BlueandOG]

You're either intentionally or unintentionally misreading what I said.

Hurley isn't asking for special treatment. He's saying that it's unacceptable that we're routinely subjected to an unfavorable whistle, and especially so for a program of our stature.

Why would I intentionally misread what you wrote?

Hurley assuming we are always unfairly treated by the refs is even worse than expecting preferential treatment. Refs are going to do what they do. Coaches should complain. Hurley took it too far - and has a pattern of doing so. He needs to stop before he crosses the line.

 

[Excalibur]

Really Bad T? That is underplaying it. That is a coach, literally, losing the game for his team.

Pet peeve is technical fouls. Do it in first half, or, when game is over. Not when it is a tie game. With 40 seconds left in OT. 4 pt possession is a game killer.

Their win probability just cratered there with the T

Two parties are involved in the technical foul. He probably should have been T’d up earlier in the game. Refusing to assess one earlier and deciding to do it there is at best a mistake, and at worst deliberate timing.

 

[BlueandOG]

Our play was to blame too and our starting lineup stubbornness, but it was a horrible officiated game and Driscoll has a long standing feud with Hurley and bad mouthed him over the summer a few years ago.
To call a T on Hurley at that point in the game was unprofessional after blowing the foul call in the first place. What did Hurley do differently than he did all game? The 40-24 foul shot spread was a result of a poorly constructed starting line up but also Driscoll’s unprofessional reffing.

You make some fair points. I maintain Hurley should have known the situation and acted differently.

 

[Zonepress]

I agree generally with your assessment but us playing aggressively is often used as an excuse why we have more fouls against an inferior team.
It is interesting that 40% of the starting line-up was the wrong call this season. Fix it and move on. And let’s not fall too much in love with Euro Ball again. It has its place in the puzzle, but fierce defense, intense rebounding and strength/good hands matter too. Let’s also not forget our identify of defense to rebound to fast break basketball

I think you’re onto something
The things you mentioned seem to have taken a backseat to the officiating
Even if the game was a win the weaknesses of the team through the first five games are still there

 

[Rico444]

Win some lose some. He hit a home run with Tarris Reed!

Yes he did. Tarris is a beast.

 

[JustbrewitMan]

I agree generally with your assessment but us playing aggressively is often used as an excuse why we have more fouls against an inferior team.
It is interesting that 40% of the starting line-up was the wrong call this season. Fix it and move on. And let’s not fall too much in love with Euro Ball again. It has its place in the puzzle, but fierce defense, intense rebounding and strength/good hands matter too. Let’s also not forget our identify of defense to rebound to fast break basketball.

Can any of the higher-level donors who went to the recent "semi-open" practice add some insights here...

Is it true that our coaching staff has abandoned their traditional 3-h grueling fundamentals-focused practices and substituted instead Euro-style "sitting around cafes sipping espressos & capuccinos" sessions?

 

[ucp990411]

I love Dan Hurley the basketball coach, we all do. Dan Hurley the person is a different story..

I think the Dan Hurley you know is the coach. Unless you know him personally how the heck can you make this statement.

 

[FfldCntyFan]

Can any of the higher-level donors who went to the recent "semi-open" practice add some insights here...

Is it true that our coaching staff has abandoned their traditional 3-h grueling fundamentals-focused practices and substituted instead Euro-style "sitting around cafes sipping espressos & capuccinos" sessions?

I think you have it backwards.

In Europe, cappuccino is a morning drink while espresso is the standard for the afternoon. You should have listed it cappuccinos & espressos.

 

[Tenspro2002]

I agree generally with your assessment but us playing aggressively is often used as an excuse why we have more fouls against an inferior team.
It is interesting that 40% of the starting line-up was the wrong call this season. Fix it and move on. And let’s not fall too much in love with Euro Ball again. It has its place in the puzzle, but fierce defense, intense rebounding and strength/good hands matter too. Let’s also not forget our identify of defense to rebound to fast break basketball.

We ran a Euro style offense last year en route to the #1 offense, while also having a top 5 defense.

Did the Euro offense hold back our fierce defense, intense rebounding, strength, and hands last year, or only this year?

 

[Chief00]

We ran a Euro style offense last year en route to the #1 offense, while also having a top 5 defense.

Did the Euro offense hold back our fierce defense, intense rebounding, strength, and hands last year, or only this year?

Yes, I think it definitely impacted our defense this year. Staffing our offense for Euro ball, while the defense suffered - PG position for example.

Also, I think you are undervaluing the ability of Castle and Newton to take their man off the dribble and how Clingan/Diarra set up the running game. That 30-0 run against Illinois included a lot more fast breaks and taking guy off dribble than Euro Ball 3’s.

This year we lack 4 guys who can take their man off the dribble.

 

[El Obrero]

Mega Brain Truth: Coach Baby Pants cost the team the game by thinking an undersized transfer from the perennial 2nd place WCC team was enough to replace Newton, Spencer, and Castle all at once, and continuing to start that player to double down on his own error.

How ‘bout we put a little pin in that one, and then come back and see how it’s aging in March? I mean, yikes, Thanksgiving ain’t even here yet!
But sorry to interrupt; you were calling out the best college coaching staff in the country for shatting the bed in the portal, with your definitive (5 games in) analysis of Aidan Mahaney’s potential. Please continue. I’m sure Tristan Newton is interested in what you have to say as well.

 

[Edward Sargent]

I don't get the cylinder rule. Samson got a foul called when he tagged the defender underneath him with his elbow but Solo doesn't get the call when getting clobbered by a swung elbow. With this cylinder rule it doesnt seem possible to trap?

 

[Himhalhoun]

Ya I mentioned the same starting lineup in the chat- just too obvious- Mahaney defensively was the main reason why we fell behind by 12

He needs to figure it out

 

[Chief00]

I don't get the cylinder rule. Samson got a foul called when he tagged the defender underneath him with his elbow but Solo doesn't get the call when getting clobbered by a swung elbow. With this cylinder rule it doesnt seem possible to trap?

The Solo hitting the Memphis player in his elbow with Solo’s face was yet another terrible call. A player is NOT suppose to flagantly swing his elbows - period!