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Chicago - The last show for the Dead

Anyone going to any late shows after FTW? I'm thinking about going to see moe. Friday and Saturday.
 
Here is my plan -

Friday - Cubs Game -> Dead - > moe.
Saturday - > Dead - > Pink Talking Fish (goes Dead)
Sunday - > Dead - > The Grateful Ball Featuring The Schwag
 
Zionn said:
Here is my plan -

Friday - Cubs Game -> Dead - > moe.
Saturday - > Dead - > Pink Talking Fish (goes Dead)
Sunday - > Dead - > The Grateful Ball Featuring The Schwag
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Until we got the screwgie on our mail orders, we were doing the Friday Cubs game and Saturday and Sunday Dead shows; Friday night and other times were going to be spent at Fitzgerald's, which has its 34th Annual American Music Festival on Thursday, Friday and Saturday. You should try and see if you can work in a visit there at some point.
 
Zionn said:
Here is my plan -

Friday - Cubs Game -> Dead - > moe.
Saturday - > Dead - > Pink Talking Fish (goes Dead)
Sunday - > Dead - > The Grateful Ball Featuring The Schwag
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did you get moe. tickets on saturday? i tried buying them and they almost immediately sold out.
 
There was a presale code I used to get moe. Tix.

Steve Kimock announced a show today for this weekend too.
 
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Recently read a book about Bill Graham and the Fillmore East & West by John Glatt (good read btw) and I learned a lot about the San Francisco scene I didn't know. Main thing is how the Jefferson Airplane really were the big drivers of the scene at that time. Anyway, I then started reading a lot about the festivals, esp. Altamont. A lot of people blame the Dead for the violence, since they refused to play because of the way things were spiraling out of control. That left a two+ hour gap between bands since the Rolling Stones didn't want to go on until the sun set. During this time, people started getting increasingly violent due to the lack of activity and drugs/drinking. Just thought it was interesting that the Dead were the band that refused to play, considering they had a major hand in getting the festival going, and I believe they also were the ones to suggest using Hells Angels for security.
 
Anyone get their tickets yet? Got mine yesterday. They look great.
 
John said:
Recently read a book about Bill Graham and the Fillmore East & West by John Glatt (good read btw) and I learned a lot about the San Francisco scene I didn't know. Main thing is how the Jefferson Airplane really were the big drivers of the scene at that time. Anyway, I then started reading a lot about the festivals, esp. Altamont. A lot of people blame the Dead for the violence, since they refused to play because of the way things were spiraling out of control. That left a two+ hour gap between bands since the Rolling Stones didn't want to go on until the sun set. During this time, people started getting increasingly violent due to the lack of activity and drugs/drinking. Just thought it was interesting that the Dead were the band that refused to play, considering they had a major hand in getting the festival going, and I believe they also were the ones to suggest using Hells Angels for security.
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They had just watched Marty Balin get brained by a pool cue onstage.
 
Hope things improve in Chicago. Some nice moments in Santa Clara but lots of cringe-worthy rough spots.

The good news is that Trey is definitely up to the task and has been the bright spot so far imo. The bad news is that Bobby does not appear up to the task and has seemed clueless for much of what I've seen. Phil's playing has been fine; his singing is the same as it ever was, which is what it is, but not great. The others have been pretty "meh," but I'm sure the Chicago shows will benefit from the CA warmup.
 
I'm sure this is an oldie, but I just heard it and it seems apropo:

What did the hippie say when he ran out of weed?
"This music sucks"
 
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These shows will be hot. Bobby and Trey will work it out, but they need to let Trey do his thing. The bucket and dew were perfect examples of what this lineup can do if they settle in. For me - Bruce and Jeff still need to find how to play off one another. The only cringe-worthy spots were really the ending of each song. That said Chi-Town here we come. I head out this afternoon. Look for me in my UConn gear. Have a safe trip and enjoy Yarders!
 
So excited for this weekend. Headed out tomorrow to catch Greensky Bluegrass and Grateful Grass at High Steppin Into Town.
 
Zionn said:
but they need to let Trey do his thing.
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Yep, that's the key. Not too crazy about his stage position either. I mean, if they don't like the implications of putting him in the Jerry spot, move Bobby there, put Phil in the middle and put Trey where Phil is. Having Trey play lead and be positioned almost off stage is pretty ridiculous imo.
 
Here is the thing. Bobby has a vast catalog of wonderful songs that he wrote and sings. Great songs that are meant for him because they are written by him. At least 1/2 of every show SHOULD be sung by Bob if 1/2 the songs are HIS songs. However, a show like the other night where he sang 11 out of 15 songs leaves me a little flat. I get that Phil and Bobby were IN the band and they have a connection to the songs. They have EARNED the right to pick and choose and sing what they want. I get it. I support it. But it also smacks of a bit of ego too. Lets be honest, there is not one "Jerry" song that would not be better served from a musical quality standpoint if Trey or Bruce sang it. For example, go back and watch the April 99 Phil and Friends show where Trey absoutely gets right to the vocal heart of Row Jimmy. He also had played it numerous times in his solo band. But when they played it the other night, Bobby took yet another one. Why? This is just personal speculation but over the last 10 years ago Bobby seems to have a self notion that he is a human vessel for Jerry Garcia's spirit. The beard, the fact that in all his iterations in that time period he plays more Jerry tunes than his own chestnuts, the fact that he set himself in Jerrys "stage spot", the donning of a black Tshirt both nights in SC. I also get that. He took losing Jerry probably harder than anyone on the planet and in his way I think he feels it is a loving tribute. And Im sure it is. But by him being so invested in that loving tribute we have seemed to have lost some of the things that made Bobby Bobby. Would love to see him be a bandmate instead of "ratdogging" these shows.
I enjoyed SC and will def enjoy Chicago. These are just nitpicking things that would make me enjoy the shows more, but they owe me nothing.
 
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What made Bobby Bobby was being a great number two to Jerry. I don't think leading is his strength, and I blame the rudderlessness of the Santa Clara shows mostly on the fact that he's trying to lead a ship that he's not wired to lead. And he's pretty spent. My wife commented that it sounded like the songs were being played on a record player or tape deck that was running a notch too slow. I feel like they're keeping Trey in a straightjacket but he's slowly busting out.

I like more of the songs in Bobby's catalog than not, but there are a lot I could do without and that number is growing. And he should not be singing any Jerry songs when Trey and Bruce are options (although I thought Bruce butchered the pace of "Loser" with his delivery). That was the worst "Loose Lucy" ever played, and "He's Gone" was so unforgivable that I want to forget that it happened.

I agree about the Bobby-wanting-to-be-Jerry theory and that weirds me out even more.

I know it's not going to happen, but I want to see Trey take the band by the throat and throttle them, and kick the sh/t out of this music like it deserves.

I'll be watching with interest this weekend, but I cant wait to see JRAD again to see this music performed with creativity and energy (and I really like Metzger's treatment of the Bobby songs).
 
8893 said:
I know it's not going to happen, but I want to see Trey take the band by the throat and throttle them, and kick the sh/t out of this music like it deserves.
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Isn't that an unfair request? Why should it fall on him?
 
Waquoit said:
Isn't that an unfair request? Why should it fall on him?
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Yes, it is totally unfair, and totally unrealistic. It won't fall on him because it's not his band, but that's unfortunate imo because he is by far the most capable at this point.
 
8893 said:
Yes, it is totally unfair, and totally unrealistic. It won't fall on him because it's not his band, but that's unfortunate imo because he is by far the most capable at this point.
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Agreed. When I saw The Dead in the XL a few years back, Warren Haynes was in that spot. And they had him way over to the right. Even then, he was the clearly the most impressive part of the show, including vocals. Even so, this is a cool event for the big fans, giving some closure.
 
Show was a heater last night. Who's ready for round two?
 
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phillionaire said:
Show was a heater last night. Who's ready for round two?
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What a difference a week makes. They got it right. Letting Trey lead, turning up Jeff, Bruce's backing vocals a la Brent...it's all good!

Got home too late for the start last night and webcast would only let me watch live, which was drums, and I fell asleep before the end of the second set. Watching from the top this morning and just finished the first set. Really, really good. Very impressed. I'm ready for a cocktail and second set.
 
8893 said:
I know it's not going to happen, but I want to see Trey take the band by the throat and throttle them, and kick the sh/t out of this music like it deserves.
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Well I was wrong--this is exactly what is happening, and it's pretty great imo. Looking forward to tonight.
 
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Phil's vocals have been cringeworthy. There is no reason for him to sing with Bobby/Trey/Bruce there. He ruined Frank and Eyes. Friend of the Devil last night was unlistenable. Bring back Donna for chrissakes. Or Pigpen. Anyone but Phil on vocals.

Trey and Bruce have been bright spots. I really like how Trey has stepped up over the course of the run. He's gotten better with each show.

Has anyone else been listening to the Sirius feed? Took me a while to figure out it was tape delayed (You think they would have mentioned this) and the "hosts" are terrible. Who needs commentary? Just play the music.

Overall it's been better than I expected. But without Jerry it's still Phil and Friends /Furthur/ the Dead with Trey and Bruce.
 
The vocals have been subpar overall. My only complaint really. Bruce has the best voice imo, but he screws up the phrasing frequently and is clearly reading the lyrics most of the time. Trey has the lyrics and phrasing down impressively well--especially given everything else that's on his plate with the lead guitar--and he does a good job of staying on key, but it's not a great vocal by any stretch.
 
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