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[QUOTE="CamrnCrz1974, post: 3113092, member: 1052"] [USER=420]@ochoopsfan[/USER] , I believe we have a miscommunication. If that is the case, I apologize for not being clearer in my previous response to your post. What I said (in my previous post) was: [I]But [B]her[/B] questioning whether something was a flagrant foul (specifically wondering if the foul was intentional) and [B]your[/B] brief meeting with her a couple of years ago form the basis for your opinion that she is both not a fan of Katie Lou Samuelson and not a fan of UConn? [/I] (emphasis added by me -- CamrnCrz1974) In other words, based on your posts in this thread, it was my understanding that your opinion as to what Mechelle Voepel thinks of KLS/UConn was based on her Twitter comment (in which Voepel questioned the foul) and your brief interaction with her a few years ago. I was trying to convey that these two things were the bases for your opinion. I did not mean to say/imply/suggest that YOU said that foul was intentional. Rather, I was attempting to say that your opinion of Voepel's comment on Twitter where SHE questioned the foul (and where SHE had a question as to whether it was intentional) was one of the reasons for your belief as to her opinions of KLS and UConn. Again, my apologies for the miscommunication. As for the rules, you are correct -- a flagrant or unsportsmanlike foul may be purposeful or unintentional. However, "intent" is very, very frequently brought up in discussions by announcers of whether something should be called as a flagrant/unsportsmanlike foul. In my experience, in both men's and women's basketball, the announcer's discussion and reference to "intent" most frequently occur in two contexts: -- Two players going for a rebound where one player's elbow swings in the direction of and makes content with the opposing team's player's neck/face/head; and -- A defender's foul of a player on a fast break/breakaway who is going in for a layup/dunk. I did not find it inappropriate or out of line for Voepel to question "intent" in her Twitter comments, seeing as I have seen thousands and thousands of FIBA, NBA, WNBA, MCBB, and WCBB games broadcast over the years where announcers discuss intent in determining if a play is a common foul or a flagrant/intentional one. The announcers and commentators know the rules; they also know that referees/officials are human beings and, in the experience of the announcers and commentators (many of whom are former players) do consider "intent" as part of making the judgment call. To me, this is a denotation/connotation issue. But I understand your vantage point (and, as an aside, thank you for posting the rule for the BY faithful so we all can see it) and see your perspective on the topic. I truly apologize for any miscommunication. I certainly was not trying to put words into your mouth (or keyboard). I will attempt to be clearer with the points I am trying to make in my responses to your posts (and to everyone's posts). [/QUOTE]
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