CFP implications

[Vowelguy]

The 12-team playoff that dies into effect next season (24-25) gives auto bids to the 6 conferences. With the PAC dead or merged with the MW, that basically leaves these leagues fighting for two spots:

• pac/mw
• american
• sun belt

The MAC and C-USA will be eligible too, but both are much weaker.

The UAC (the ASun-WAC football conference) plans to move up to FBS in the next few years too.

 

[nelsonmuntz]

That is a win for the Pac/MW and AAC if it holds up.

 

[businesslawyer]

The 12-team playoff that dies into effect next season (24-25) gives auto bids to the 6 conferences. With the PAC dead or merged with the MW, that basically leaves these leagues fighting for two spots:

• pac/mw
• american
• sun belt

The MAC and C-USA will be eligible too, but both are much weaker.

The UAC (the ASun-WAC football conference) plans to move up to FBS in the next few years too.

Nope. The Big Ten and SEC are going to cut out one of the auto bids, so we’re down to 5: the remaining Big 4 automatically and the highest ranked other conference champion.

 

[Vowelguy]

Nope. The Big Ten and SEC are going to cut out one of the auto bids, so we’re down to 5: the remaining Big 4 automatically and the highest ranked other conference champion.

That’s what they will want to do. But will they be able to?
There will probably be public pressure to not change the rules for year 1. And if the non-p4 teams do well that year

 

[businesslawyer]

That’s what they will want to do. But will they be able to?
There will probably be public pressure to not change the rules for year 1. And if the non-p4 teams do well that year

They are oblivious to public pressure. They are aware of money.

 

[nelsonmuntz]

I think the P2 is testing the water about shrinking the pool of teams competing for the CFP, but they are also very aware that they risk making it irrelevant if too few fans are invested in the outcome. If it was possible to shrink college athletics to 40 or 20 or 5 teams that we would all watch, it would have already been done. Even the pro leagues understand that they need expansion to grow their market.

 

[huskymedic]

 

[Ldandy]

That’s what they will want to do. But will they be able to?
There will probably be public pressure to not change the rules for year 1. And if the non-p4 teams do well that year

The public pressure isn't going to come from the Middle Tennessee State's of the world about not potentially getting in, It's going to come from the Tennessee's of the world potentially being left out. They'll allow enough access to keep the government off their backs, but spots in the playoff outside of The SEC, B1G and to a lesser extent ACC/Big 12 are going to be far and few between.

 

[huskymedic]

SEC boss: Must 'rethink' CFP amid realignment

SEC commissioner Greg Sankey says things will continue to change in the college football landscape and that the CFP format should be reconsidered after the latest conference reshuffling.

www.espn.com

 

[uconnyankee]

SEC boss: Must 'rethink' CFP amid realignment

SEC commissioner Greg Sankey says things will continue to change in the college football landscape and that the CFP format should be reconsidered after the latest conference reshuffling.

www.espn.com

This is the same guy who wept for Pac 12 vanishing overnight. Feels so bad, he wants to take their auto bid too.

College Football is a cartel.

 

[JohnFSilver]

They are going to move down to 8 teams. I think 12 is too many.

To be honest, they should just have the SEC champ and the Big 10 champ play in the rose bowl/Sugar Bowl for the national title every other year.

ACC, Big 12. The only real power teams outside of the P2 are Clemson and Florida State. There is no Big 12 team that belongs, and unless you think Miami belongs in the discussion (they don't),

 

[bendm]

The 12-team playoff that dies

yes

 

[superjohn]

They are going to move down to 8 teams. I think 12 is too many.

To be honest, they should just have the SEC champ and the Big 10 champ play in the rose bowl/Sugar Bowl for the national title every other year.

ACC, Big 12. The only real power teams outside of the P2 are Clemson and Florida State. There is no Big 12 team that belongs, and unless you think Miami belongs in the discussion (they don't),

To be honest they should just have the SEC play each other.

 

[metsfan2323]

They are going to move down to 8 teams. I think 12 is too many.

To be honest, they should just have the SEC champ and the Big 10 champ play in the rose bowl/Sugar Bowl for the national title every other year.

ACC, Big 12. The only real power teams outside of the P2 are Clemson and Florida State. There is no Big 12 team that belongs, and unless you think Miami belongs in the discussion (they don't),

It doesn't matter if teams "belong" or not, the TV networks want the content and if they are willing to pay for a 12 team playoff they will get it. Do 68 teams "belong" in the basketball tournament?

 

[nelsonmuntz]

They are going to move down to 8 teams. I think 12 is too many.

To be honest, they should just have the SEC champ and the Big 10 champ play in the rose bowl/Sugar Bowl for the national title every other year.

ACC, Big 12. The only real power teams outside of the P2 are Clemson and Florida State. There is no Big 12 team that belongs, and unless you think Miami belongs in the discussion (they don't),

The college presidents are taking the money. The playoff is staying at 12 teams.

 

[Vowelguy]

They are going to move down to 8 teams. I think 12 is too many.

To be honest, they should just have the SEC champ and the Big 10 champ play in the rose bowl/Sugar Bowl for the national title every other year.

ACC, Big 12. The only real power teams outside of the P2 are Clemson and Florida State. There is no Big 12 team that belongs, and unless you think Miami belongs in the discussion (they don't),

No way in hades they're going to reduce access.

The 12-team playoff maintains the importance of the conference championship games -- the winner gets a first-round bye in the CFP. The loser has to play in round 1, or could miss the CFP entirely.

 

[bendm]

No way in hades they're going to reduce access.

The 12-team playoff maintains the importance of the conference championship games -- the winner gets a first-round bye in the CFP. The loser has to play in round 1, or could miss the CFP entirely.

there are autobids for the six highest-ranked conference champions and at-large spots to the next six highest-ranked teams. the top 4 gets byes.

the four byes should now go to the winners of the P4 conferences and the other 8 spots go to the highest remaining ranked teams which have to play each other in the first round.

 

[Sea Goat]

there are autobids for the six highest-ranked conference champions and at-large spots to the next six highest-ranked teams. the top 4 gets byes.

the four byes should now go to the winners of the P4 conferences and the other 8 spots go to the highest remaining ranked teams which have to play each other in the first round.

SEC is right to push for as many spots as possible. There be no guarantee of a bye for any conference other than the SEC and the BIG. After the P2, give byes on basis on power rating and record. Someone from ACC or the Big 12 may occasionally get a bye, but after the P2 winners get theirs. Then the other two byes should be based on performance. Giving a bye to the ACC/Big12 champion could unfairly penalize a one or two loss SEC team that has run the SEC gauntlet with maybe 1or 2 close road losses against the top SEC competition. There has to be recognition of the profound weakness at the bottom of the ACC/Big12 conferences.

 

[billybud]

Geotgia;s schedule next year isn't all that...

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[billybud]

Auburn predicted near bottom of division, South Carolina has sucked for a long time, Vandy and Mizzou are bottom of conference dwellers. Florida had losing season last year., Tennessee might be a good game...KY was 7-6...and UT Martin, Ball State, UAB, and GT are body bag games.

 

[huskymedic]

 

[nelsonmuntz]

This will blow the talent bases apart at the big schools. Why would someone ever sit the bench on Alabama when the same player can A) get paid anywhere he goes, B) play for one of maybe 40 to 50 schools that have a credible shot to make the CFP, and C) leave immediately?

There will never be another Alabama in the 2010's type dynasty.

 

[superjohn]

This will blow the talent bases apart at the big schools. Why would someone ever sit the bench on Alabama when the same player can A) get paid anywhere he goes, B) play for one of maybe 40 to 50 schools that have a credible shot to make the CFP, and C) leave immediately?

There will never be another Alabama in the 2010's type dynasty.

There's one right now, dum dum. Georgia says hello.

 

[Slasher]

SEC is right to push for as many spots as possible. There be no guarantee of a bye for any conference other than the SEC and the BIG. After the P2, give byes on basis on power rating and record. Someone from ACC or the Big 12 may occasionally get a bye, but after the P2 winners get theirs. Then the other two byes should be based on performance. Giving a bye to the ACC/Big12 champion could unfairly penalize a one or two loss SEC team that has run the SEC gauntlet with maybe 1or 2 close road losses against the top SEC competition. There has to be recognition of the profound weakness at the bottom of the ACC/Big12 conferences.

I'll grant that the ACC has weakness at the bottom, but the Big 12 is pretty damn balanced across the board. I agree that there's no way it's going to drop to 8 teams now that everyone is getting used to 12. I think the fight will be 5+7 with no automatic bids vs 5+7 with 4 power conference guaranteed bids + highest rank group of 5. That was an argument last time, having true automatic bids.

 

[JeepCSC]

The B10 and ACC want the conference champion bye as a check on Notre Dame. I imagine it stays.