That's a bad comparison. The Giants were really good most of the time. We're talking about a team that wins a title and misses the playoffs most of the time vs a team that makes the playoffs regularly and even loses in championship games or league championships winning roughly the same number of titles.
I think there's a reasonable argument either way. Some would choose more titles and the bad years, some would choose fewer titles and making a run every year. It's entirely subjective and I think that one is pretty close and could go either way. Kansas fans under 50 don't even remember missing the tournament so it's hard for them to even know what that is like.
League titles don't register at all on a national level. Sure, if you're MSU maybe you can talk trash to your UM neighbor at the local brewery.
You didn't answer the question.
Would you rather be a Yankees fan or a Red Sox fan the past 25 years?
Probably because national championships are largely an unattainable goal for them, at least in the modern era.
The Big Ten Conference has 10 NCAA men’s basketball championships all-time.
You need to understand their methodology:
1975 is the extended modern era (expanded to 32 teams and started having at-large bids and was more influential than NIT at that point) and in that timeframe the Big Ten has 6 and UConn has 6.
Do they grandfather titles? They probably do. Bill Walton, Big Ten legend
LOL
You are correct. Twice as many in fact. Starting with 1985 (first NCAA Tournament with 64 teams) the Big Ten has won 3 titles. 1987 Indiana, 1989 Michigan, and 2000 Michigan State. Can't count 2002 Maryland since they were in the ACC back then.
I'd rather chop off an arm than be a Yankees fan in any period. But I don't get the point. The Sox have the 4th most wins since 2000.
As a Red Sox fan I go back and forth. The highs have been incredibly high (2004, 2007, 2013, 2018), and we've had other almost-there contending years (2003, 2008, 2016-17, 2021), but we've also had a share of soul-crushing lows/embarassments (also 2003, 2011, 2012, forgettable years in 2010, 2014, 2015, 2019, and the last few until this year).
They would probably say they take great pride in their consistency as opposed to some team getting lucky 6 times in 25 seasons.......
You don't get the point? The Yankees have been much more consistent than the Red Sox and the Red Sox have doubled them up in titles. Kansas has been much more consistent than UConn and UConn has more than doubled Kansas up in titles.
The question is irrational as posed to me, I'm both. I have the best of both worlds.
Nobody gives much credence to the titles won before 1969 except Kentucky, Indiana and a few others.
Great post. I do agree. The point i was hoping to make was that if we lost that game, our regular season wasnt enough to call us the best team. In other words, the best team in the tourney has to be called the Best team of that year. Its like bar trivia where the first ten questions are worth 5 pts apiece but the final question is worth 100. Not exactly fair, but only 1 true winner.
I know your point and I know you aren’t one of those whiners. I just had to say something. It makes me nuts when they do it. I guess I wish you picked a different example. 😂
Well sure if you pick multiple teams as your favorite you can experience even more winning. I consider it a no brainer that it's been way better being a UConn fan because we win way more championships than Kansas.
But the Sox have been way more consistent than UConn, and the Yankees not nearly as consistent as Kansas. I also get nowhere near the overall joy of participation in the MLB playoffs that I get being part of the NCAA tournament.
I wish I was a fan of two great programs. I often wish I went to grad school at a great football school so that CR wouldn’t bother me so much. I’d have a team if UConn never gets the call.
I am truly lucky to be a huge college basketball fan who happened to attend those two schools. No doubt about it. My college football luck is well, a bit less.
Kansas football has been fun recently though. I actually think UConn football is fun again too. I’m just worried about the future.
KU was good when I was there (Glen Mason era), which was fun. They had the Orange bowl win some time back. Both teams pretty good right now, I’m liking that. I want to go check out the new stadium in Lawrence.
“Nobody gives much credence to the titles won before 1969.” Count me among the nobodies.
Actually, I never heard it metioned before and I was totally unfamiliar with it
Seriously, it happens all the time.