CBS Sports draft projection for Huskies.

[Jarhead_1775]

How does McEntee get mentioned but no Ryan Wirth? Wirth was one of the best D lineman in the league and McEntee has no shot.

All Johnny Mac ever did was keep working and grinding it out. He registered for the draft. Obviously he won't be drafted but what the hell, he's laying it out there. Who'd have thought the walk on would end up starting a season. Kid's a true worker and I admire the balls to lay it all out like that.

 

[bmayuc]

Guess you never heard of Lawrence Taylor.

HA! Im a giants fan my dude. LT changed the game in may ways. But when you think of LT, its not of him diagnosing plays and dropping into coverage and splitting seams to seek out an RB. He was the first Edge Rusher. He really created a new hybrid position.

But his most devastating work was as a Rush OLB/DE. He is not a TRUE LB in the classic sense of the term.

That is what Ray Lewis embodies. GOAT.

 

[huskysupporter]

There were lots of LBs better than Lewis. He is closer to #10 than #1.

As much as it pains me, because he is a joke of a person, Lewis is the best MLB of all time.

Best linebacker? Taylor needs to be mentioned because he revolutionized OLB.

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[FfldCntyFan]

HA! Im a giants fan my dude. LT changed the game in may ways. But when you think of LT, its not of him diagnosing plays and dropping into coverage and splitting seams to seek out an RB. He was the first Edge Rusher. He really created a new hybrid position.

But his most devastating work was as a Rush OLB/DE. He is not a TRUE LB in the classic sense of the term.

That is what Ray Lewis embodies. GOAT.

How long have you been a Giants fan? Yes, later in his career, beginning in Bellichick's last year as DC (1990, 1991 SB win) and basically with each of Parcell's successors (who he finished his career under), he was utilized primarily as an edge rusher but LT did far more than merely that throughout his career. I'd wager that if Parcells remained in charge (and for that one year Bellichick didn't fall in love with an eight man zone) very few would perceive LT as merely a pass rusher.

In my eyes however LT is still behind Butkus.

 

[jdb50]

Wirth has a great motor and mobility. Would he work as a DE in a 3-4?

 

[huskypantz]

HA! Im a giants fan my dude. LT changed the game in may ways. But when you think of LT, its not of him diagnosing plays and dropping into coverage and splitting seams to seek out an RB. He was the first Edge Rusher. He really created a new hybrid position.

But his most devastating work was as a Rush OLB/DE. He is not a TRUE LB in the classic sense of the term.

That is what Ray Lewis embodies. GOAT.

Teams based their entire offensive gameplan around where LT was on the field. Running or passing. You had to block him backside because he would run the RB down from behind. If you didn't double or chip, he was going to get to the QB. He was the most dominant defensive player in the league during his time, and that's considering guys like Singletary, Lott, R White, D Green etc.

 

[Palatine]

As much as it pains me, because he is a joke of a person, Lewis is the best MLB of all time.

Best linebacker? Taylor needs to be mentioned because he revolutionized OLB.

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Dick Butkus was MUCH better than Lewis. He was bigger, tougher and more feared. Baltimore built its defense around huge DTs that let Lewis roam, the defense was built for Lewis.

Butkus needed no such babying. He dominated with horrible defenses around him.

 

[huskysupporter]

Dick Butkus was MUCH better than Lewis. He was bigger, tougher and more feared. Baltimore built its defense around huge DTs that let Lewis roam, the defense was built for Lewis.

Butkus needed no such babying. He dominated with horrible defenses around him.

Believe me, I want to say Butkus was better. I loved the old school MLBers. I had a picture of Ray Nitshke in my bedroom in high school, and I graduated in 1995. Love to hear the stories about how tough those backers were. Heck, take a look at Chuck Bednarik's twisted fingers to see what tough is all about (and he started on offense and defense).

But Ray Lewis, in his prime, was a sideline to sideline menace. He studied the game and it showed. He was equally adept at covering the pass, and was fantastic when asked to blitz. Butkus might have been bigger, might have been tougher, and might have been more feared, but Lewis was the better inside linebacker.

 

[Scoe]

LT no question is the greatest LB of all time, Ray Lewis is the better leader. The fact that LT could do coke the night before a game and then kick the next day is impressive. He had to retire at age 33 due to his lifestyle and playing on that Giants stadium turf. He changed the way offenses prepared against great defensive players.

 

[bmayuc]

How long have you been a Giants fan? Yes, later in his career, beginning in Bellichick's last year as DC (1990, 1991 SB win) and basically with each of Parcell's successors (who he finished his career under), he was utilized primarily as an edge rusher but LT did far more than merely that throughout his career. I'd wager that if Parcells remained in charge (and for that one year Bellichick didn't fall in love with an eight man zone) very few would perceive LT as merely a pass rusher.

In my eyes however LT is still behind Butkus.

You guys are acting like there cannot be multiple opinions. RayLew is every bit as impactful to his generation as LT was to his. What LT was to Pass-Rushing LB, RayLewis(and to a lesser extent Derrick Brooks) were to the new Prototype 3-down sideline-to-sideline field General MLB. They had equal impacts on their given Eras. And they played completely different positions.

But my taste is for Ray Lewis.

I've been a Giants fan since the day I found out my dad is a cowboys fan, when I was like 3. That was '88.

Still, I've seen LTs games. I am an NFL films junkie.

 

[WhereistheDove?]

You guys are acting like there cannot be multiple opinions. RayLew is every bit as impactful to his generation as LT was to his. What LT was to Pass-Rushing LB, RayLewis(and to a lesser extent Derrick Brooks) were to the new Prototype 3-down sideline-to-sideline field General MLB. They had equal impacts on their given Eras. And they played completely different positions.

But my taste is for Ray Lewis.

I've been a Giants fan since the day I found out my dad is a cowboys fan, when I was like 3. That was '88.

Still, I've seen LTs games. I am an NFL films junkie.

Huh? Derrick Brooks was a weakside LB, not an MLB. Aside from that, I just can't help but disagree with you here. It's one thing to say Ray Lewis played his position better than anyone before him (certainly a valid argument can be made), but it's another thing altogether to say that he revolutionized his position like LT did. I'm not sure how Ray Lewis really revolutionized the position from what a guy like Jack Lambert was doing when he was still in diapers.

 

[bmayuc]

Huh? Derrick Brooks was a weakside LB, not an MLB. Aside from that, I just can't help but disagree with you here. It's one thing to say Ray Lewis played his position better than anyone before him (certainly a valid argument can be made), but it's another thing altogether to say that he revolutionized his position like LT did. I'm not sure how Ray Lewis really revolutionized the position from what a guy like Jack Lambert was doing when he was still in diapers.

No one has played all facets of the game like Lewis. Was lambert covering complex passing offenses? think not.

Sideline-to-Sideline run support - check
Blitzing acumen - check
Call the game - check
Coverage - CHECK
Leadership - Haters gonna Hate, but he was the absolute embodiment of leading a franchise during his career.

If you ask me, the defining defense of his Era was the blackshirt Ravens. They were amazing as a 4-3 in his early years, and still excelled after they switched to a 3-4 concept. That 2001 super bowl team may have been the very worst offensive team to ever win a championship, because of this guy. At his prime, he was a whirling dervish of pain.
He stuck on and was effective for 18 years!

You can say you don't agree that Ray Lewis is better than LT. But its an opinion. He belongs in that discussion.

 

[Chin Diesel]

No one has played all facets of the game like Lewis. Was lambert covering complex passing offenses? think not.

Sideline-to-Sideline run support - check
Blitzing acumen - check
Call the game - check
Coverage - CHECK
Leadership - Haters gonna Hate, but he was the absolute embodiment of leading a franchise during his career.

If you ask me, the defining defense of his Era was the blackshirt Ravens. They were amazing as a 4-3 in his early years, and still excelled after they switched to a 3-4 concept. That 2001 super bowl team may have been the very worst offensive team to ever win a championship, because of this guy. At his prime, he was a whirling dervish of pain.
He stuck on and was effective for 18 years!

You can say you don't agree that Ray Lewis is better than LT. But its an opinion. He belongs in that discussion.

Just keep in mind when comparing players who played 35 years apart that Lambert didn't have hundreds of hours of film and playbooks on every player, didn't have year round access to weight training (or the expectation to do that year round), didn't have world class strength and conditioning coaches, didn't have the level of medical care or medical access, etc., etc.

All you can really do when comparing across generations is look how they played compared to their peers. Ditka, Lambert and Nitschke absolutely dominated their position.

 

[Nostical]

No way to compare eras. Chin is right. Slight changes in training and technique can have a huge impact--Fosbury Flop in high jumping as an example. Plus, players are simply anatomically bigger and faster. Jesse Owens held the record for the 100 at 10.3. Today he wouldn't even make the heats. Bolt has run 9.58. And timing devices are much more precise. As ferocious as Nitschke and Huff, etal, were, they would be busts at the combine and challenged on the field trying to keep up with todays game. That doesn't mean Owens or Nitsche weren't great, they were---for their era.

 

[WhereistheDove?]

No one has played all facets of the game like Lewis. Was lambert covering complex passing offenses? think not.

Sideline-to-Sideline run support - check
Blitzing acumen - check
Call the game - check
Coverage - CHECK
Leadership - Haters gonna Hate, but he was the absolute embodiment of leading a franchise during his career.

If you ask me, the defining defense of his Era was the blackshirt Ravens. They were amazing as a 4-3 in his early years, and still excelled after they switched to a 3-4 concept. That 2001 super bowl team may have been the very worst offensive team to ever win a championship, because of this guy. At his prime, he was a whirling dervish of pain.
He stuck on and was effective for 18 years!

You can say you don't agree that Ray Lewis is better than LT. But its an opinion. He belongs in that discussion.

No one is denying he has been an absolutely amazing player and I don't think anyone has ever said a negative thing about his leadership, so I'm not sure why you keep arguing those things. Additionally, I NEVER said that Ray Lewis wasn't better than LT, I said that he didn't revolutionize the position he played like LT (and he didn't, plain and simple). He was an amazing player who adapted his game to the style of play he faced, but almost all of that Lambert did, the difference being that he was playing against a different style of play.

 

[Nostical]

No matter what the era, there are great players and memorable moments. And then there is this-- Enjoy!

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[RedSoloCup]

No matter what the era, there are great players and memorable moments. And then there is this-- Enjoy!

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I wish I could like that again...