OT: CBB Scandal & Nike

[tcf15]

I'm hoping that @Chief00 is implicated.

If he does, hopefully we can finally get the real truth on what happened the night of January 22, 2015.

 

[superjohn]

The good thing is the NCAA can't protect Duke, UNC, and Kentucky from the FBI.

 

[jrazz12]

If he does, hopefully we can finally get the real truth on what happened the night of January 22, 2015.

How is that thread not pinned to the rafters?

 

[Penfield]

How is that thread not pinned to the rafters?

 

[freescooter]

Chill worked in the EYBL division for a year in 2007-2008. It seems far enough, he worked 8 years with Washington before we picked him up, but who knows.

I said in another thread that I wasn't too worried about AD Dave but if I were AD I'd be asking some tough questions of Chillious right away. That Nike connection and his rep as a recruiter would be very concerning. Not proof of anything to be sure but worth examining.

Really there are 2 separate "scandals" in this episode. The assistants arrested were mainly involved in taking bribes to steer players to certain agents. The payments they made were mostly small stuff. And they were mostly enriching themselves. The other scandal, for which nobody has yet been arrested except maybe the Addidas exec, is directly paying players to go to particular schools, notably Louisville and Miami. It is not clear at this point that those are related other than they both seem to involve college basketball and one can see how investigating 1 could have easily led one to discover the other. I can imagine the bribes by agents to get players being much more extensive than big payments to players to attend certain schools, though. I can't imagine there are more than a handful of guys in any given year who are worth risking jail and/or losing your job and being banned from the NCAA tourney for. For what it's worth I can't think of anyone UConn recruited who fits that mold. Most of our great players became great over time rather than being can't miss guys.

 

[Walker11]

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The past few days have been full of amazing posts and this is #1 in my mind.

 

[Waquoit]

LOL at the thought that Nike is clean.

 

[freescooter]

LOL at the thought that Nike is clean.

Or Underamour.

 

[A10 fan]

Is there any doubt really? At this point you just hope and pray your school's staff is somehow not involved.

Amateurism as we know it will be ground to dust. The NCAA could have nipped this in the bud years and years ago but now they'll just look like a massive pile of incompetence.

Amateurism? I thought Sam Gilbert ended that. Or was it the gamblers at MSG back in the 40s, and 50s? Or maybe it was back when schools were using guys off the street who weren't even students, or whose eligibility had expired, back in the 1900s and 1910s. Amateurism hasn't been ground into dust. Your eyes have just been opened to what has always existed. It's like finding out that the nice old lady you see every day on the way home from work, used to be a notorious whore in her youth. The emperor has no clothes.

 

[superjohn]

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Hilarious.

 

[Mr. Wonderful]

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Post of the year candidate

 

[Palatine]

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I thought I wouldn't have to see that ripped up ceiling any more. Soon.

 

[Da_Aisijimo_Gou]

I'm hoping that @Chief00 is implicated.

Quite frankly, that's not so nice. However, it's certainly earned and appropriately comical.

 

[huskeynut]

President and AD's with shoe contracts, regardless of who, should be taking a hard look and asking probing questions of all. Anything less would be stupid at this point. And that includes UConn both men and women.

 

[GetTheFacts]

As someone who worked in collegiate athletics, I would be surprised if this wasn't a widespread issue amongst most of the big-name programs in college basketball. If I had to guess, I would assume that this is going to get much, much bigger and have a similar impact on the sport as the doping scandal in cycling and steroids in baseball.

The current system is incredibly conducive to bribery and corruption.

 

[Da_Aisijimo_Gou]

The current system is incredibly conducive to bribery and corruption.

And, allegedly money laundering, tax evasion, etc.

 

[intlzncster]

Cal?

 

[80shusky]

Cal?

You know everyone's thinking it.

 

[billybud]

Alabama Director of Basketball Operations resigns in wake of invesrigation

Alabama director of basketball operations resigns after internal review

 

[intlzncster]

Alabama Director of Basketball Operations resigns in wake of invesrigation

Alabama director of basketball operations resigns after internal review

Ahhh the ol' pawn falling on the sword gambit. That's a bold strategy Cotton. Let's see if it pays off. Bonus built-in pun there too.

 

[Chief00]

If he does, hopefully we can finally get the real truth on what happened the night of January 22, 2015.

Yeah when you find out the real reason the plans changed, please let me know. LOL

 

[Chief00]

Alabama Director of Basketball Operations resigns in wake of invesrigation

Alabama director of basketball operations resigns after internal review

To me this is very interesting, a former NCAA Deputy Enforcement Director is involved. I think schools viewed the downside risk as an NCAA sanction or penalty. So yes Baker steered Bama away from that risk in how they did things. I don’t believe the FBI risk filter was on anyone’s radar screen.

 

[traitor71]

To me this is very interesting, a former NCAA Deputy Enforcement Director is involved. I think schools viewed the downside risk as an NCAA sanction or penalty. So yes Baker steered Bama away from that risk in how they did things. I don’t believe the FBI risk filter was on anyone’s radar screen.

Of course they weren't thinking about the FBI. It's not illegal to do things to entice players to your program, and if you are in the game then you have either done it, or are aware of situations where it has happened and understand that it is something you have to compete against. I would imagine that most people are just fine with justifying a kid getting something, it's the agents and crooked financial guys that were ripping people off of their money that got this thing started and has led us to this point where the lid is going to be blown off of how the basketball world works.

I'm just praying that somehow it leads to people in the NCAA offices actually being aware of it and looking the other way. That would be my "dream scenario" in all of this.

 

[David 76]

Why? Hater’s going to hate - I guess.

They could indict you just from your posts on the BY.

 

[scoobydoo]

Yeah when you find out the real reason the plans changed, please let me know. LOL

I imagine its the same reason you talk about Blaze.

You have a terrific imagination.