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Castle has entered Ricky Moore territory

The fact that Castle didn't even play in the beginning of the season due to injury, didn't start immediately once he came back and has only taken off really in the 2nd half of this season? Discredits what Moore did over 4 years.

It's flattering to Moore....but it's unjustified hyperbole.
I'm comparing skill sets, not careers. Castle's ability to stay in front of opposing teams best guards and wings and impact their ability to score is at an incredible level. Every bit as good as what Ricky did but with the ability to do it against multiple positions.
 
I'm a big Castle fan, but more than anything, this thread discredits just what Ricky Moore did on defense while at UConn.

As a freshman, he locked down Iverson in the BET Tourney finals holding him to 13 pts but just 2 pts in the 2nd half of that game. He had shoulder issues and a suspension that held him back some as a sophomore.

As a junior and mostly as a senior? He was the definition of lockdown. It's tough to find old box scores, but he was essentially like an NFL cornerback like Darrelle Revis that would just eliminate someone on offense completely. Castle is really, really good with great potential. Ricky Moore was elite.

If you watch the last minute of the first title game vs Duke, when El Amin shoots that 2nd FT, you see Moore get in William Avery's shirt at the top of the arc, forcing them to inbound it to Langdon (not their best ball handler), then you can watch Moore glove up Avery until Langdon crossed half court where they converged on him and he travelled. I've always thought those little edges and details were what he brought every game that went unheralded and unnoticed regularly.


Just like the job he did against AI in the BET championship game, brilliant defender
 
I'm comparing skill sets, not careers. Castle's ability to stay in front of opposing teams best guards and wings and impact their ability to score is at an incredible level. Every bit as good as what Ricky did but with the ability to do it against multiple positions.
Okay. Fair.

When Jaylin Stewart hit three 3s against Depaul? We haven’t had anyone with that skill set since Rashad Anderson.
 
It's fun to watch when his man gets the ball. He is a 6-6 pest on the floor. He is very tough to get the ball over in the paint. He is so sound defensively. He is not flashy and I don't think he gets very many steals.

Last night when he poked the ball out of bounds in the back court, Moore came to mind. Diarra is a very good defender but for my money Castle is the best we've seen since Ricky.
You can count on whoever Castle is guarding is going to have a long day. So strong. Can guard 1-4. Never makes unnecessary reach fouls. Seldom in foul trouble.
 
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Until Stephon causes a travel on the last play of a natty game to win it for UConn, I am a Ricky man. :)

Ricky was quicker but Castle is stronger and more suited to the NBA.
Castle is stronger than Ricky for sure, how much stronger? I don't know, because Ricky was strong as an ox. You never saw Ricky get pushed around in the games. I know from playing pickup games in the Gampel-adjacent Field House in 1996 I tried bull my way to the basket when he was guarding me and it was like hitting a brick wall. Mind you, I am only 170 pounds, but still.
 
It's fun to watch when his man gets the ball. He is a 6-6 pest on the floor. He is very tough to get the ball over in the paint. He is so sound defensively. He is not flashy and I don't think he gets very many steals.

Last night when he poked the ball out of bounds in the back court, Moore came to mind. Diarra is a very good defender but for my money Castle is the best we've seen since Ricky.
The Harrison twins would like a word with you.
 
Hassan is Napier/Boatwright level of guard good.

Stephon is a Ricky Moore/Lyman DePriest level of defender and given that he can guard so many positions effectively he might be the best defensive man to man player UConn has ever had.
Andre has to be mentioned here
 
Andre has to be mentioned here
Andre would get beat a lot because he had a habit of standing straight up but his recovery ability was insane.
 
I'm a big Castle fan, but more than anything, this thread discredits just what Ricky Moore did on defense while at UConn.

As a freshman, he locked down Iverson in the BET Tourney finals holding him to 13 pts but just 2 pts in the 2nd half of that game. He had shoulder issues and a suspension that held him back some as a sophomore.

As a junior and mostly as a senior? He was the definition of lockdown. It's tough to find old box scores, but he was essentially like an NFL cornerback like Darrelle Revis that would just eliminate someone on offense completely. Castle is really, really good with great potential. Ricky Moore was elite.

If you watch the last minute of the first title game vs Duke, when El Amin shoots that 2nd FT, you see Moore get in William Avery's shirt at the top of the arc, forcing them to inbound it to Langdon (not their best ball handler), then you can watch Moore glove up Avery until Langdon crossed half court where they converged on him and he travelled. I've always thought those little edges and details were what he brought every game that went unheralded and unnoticed regularly.



Lol you left out Duke's previous possession, which was an even more spectacular defensive stop. Langdon with the ball and the chance for the lead, and Ricky Moore straight up humiliated him.

That one had a much bigger impact on our win probability. But somehow the geniuses at CBS never showed a replay during the broadcast, so it is not as well remembered. Out of all the people in the production, only Billy Packer understood what had happened.

Thank goodness for YouTube--now I can go watch that possession whenever I want.
 
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Lol you left out Duke's previous possession, which was an even more spectacular defensive stop. Langdon with the ball and the chance for the lead, and Ricky Moore straight up humiliated him.

That one had a much bigger impact on our win probability. But somehow the geniuses at CBS never showed a replay during the broadcast, so it is not as well remembered. Out of all the people in the production, only Billy Packer understood what had happened.

Thank goodness for YouTube--now I can go watch that possession whenever I want.
the only downside is; you have to listen to Packer again.
 
Lol you left out Duke's previous possession, which was an even more spectacular defensive stop. Langdon with the ball and the chance for the lead, and Ricky Moore straight up humiliated him.

That one had a much bigger impact on our win probability. But somehow the geniuses at CBS never showed a replay during the broadcast, so it is not as well remembered. Out of all the people in the production, only Billy Packer understood what had happened.

Thank goodness for YouTube--now I can go watch that possession whenever I want.
 
the only downside is; you have to listen to Packer again.

Lol true.

Packer was normally a cranky, judgmental scold. Usually tough to take. But he had two moments that I will always love:

The call on that Ricky Moore stop.

And his beef with Phil Martelli in 2004. He made some comments prior to the tourney that St. Joe's had no business being a 1 seed, and Coach Martelli lost it. That was some great beef!
 
I always remember Dyson for playing hard D. Did i rewrite history?
Think junior year Dyson was a really good defender and locked in.

I remember Boatright and Kemba coming in picking up guys full court during their freshman year giving them hell. Boatright especially had a knack for those reach around rips and steals in general.
 
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I'm comparing skill sets, not careers. Castle's ability to stay in front of opposing teams best guards and wings and impact their ability to score is at an incredible level. Every bit as good as what Ricky did but with the ability to do it against multiple positions.
Castle has the ability to do something special Sunday shutting down kadary. He is bigger and stronger than all the great guard defenders the boneyard is fighting about. Just be glad we have him. His defense will be the difference against seton hall. Feel free to chastise me if i am wrong.
 
Have we already forgotten Andre Jackson Jr?
Different type of defender. Same reason not to include Amidah’s weak side blocking that was an incredible defensive asset in that championship run or Dove’s ability to intercept passes in the dream season. We’re comparing face guarding guards and wings from being able to drive to the basket.

If we were talking about centers I guess a case could be made for Adama who was able to prevent most opposing centers from dribbling to the basket. His core strength is incredible.
 
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Different type of defender. Same reason not to include Amidah’s weak side blocking that was an incredible defensive asset in that championship run or Dove’s ability to intercept passes in the dream season. We’re comparing face guarding.
Agree but it is funny that there has been little or no mention of Thabeet. I think he was the best shot blocker we ever had.
 
Castle has the ability to do something special Sunday shutting down kadary. He is bigger and stronger than all the great guard defenders the boneyard is fighting about. Just be glad we have him. His defense will be the difference against seton hall. Feel free to chastise me if i am wrong.
He was only four or five games from his surgery and layoff first time we played Seton Hall. I’m not sure he was the primary defender of Kadary back then. It will be a great test for him.
 
Agree but it is funny that there has been little or no mention of Thabeet. I think he was the best shot blocker we ever had.
Funnier in that I almost was going to include him but decided I already made my point.
 
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There’s pretty much 3 classes of defenders in this conversation it seems.

Guards:
  • Ricky Moore
  • Ryan Boatright

Wings:
  • Stephon Castle
  • I’ll let one of the old heads pick someone from the 90s to fit here

Bigs:
  • Emeka Okafor
  • Hasheem Thabeet
 
Hassan is Napier/Boatwright level of guard good.

Stephon is a Ricky Moore/Lyman DePriest level of defender and given that he can guard so many positions effectively he might be the best defensive man to man player UConn has ever had.

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He was only four or five games from his surgery and layoff first time we played Seton Hall. I’m not sure he was the primary defender of Kadary back then. It will be a great test for him.
Seton Hall was Castle's final game not in the starting line-up, and still on limited minutes (20). I wished for him to go up against and shut down Kadary, but that was not the game plan. I surmised that it was seen as asking too much too soon.

I'm thinking of Sunday as the, "We'll see..." game, and I'm very much looking forward to it.
 
Seton Hall was Castle's final game not in the starting line-up, and still on limited minutes (20). I wished for him to go up against and shut down Kadary, but that was not the game plan. I surmised that it was seen as asking too much too soon.

I'm thinking of Sunday as the, "We'll see..." game, and I'm very much looking forward to it.
Same here. And hopefully Donovan and Stephon stay out of foul so both are available the entire game.
 
Agree but it is funny that there has been little or no mention of Thabeet. I think he was the best shot blocker we ever had.
Blocks
1.Emeka Okafor, 2002-03156
2.Hasheem Thabeet, 2008-09152
3.Emeka Okafor, 2003-04147
Hasheem Thabeet, 2007-08147
5.Emeka Okafor, 2001-02138
6.Amida Brimah, 2014-15121
7.Hasheem Thabeet, 2006-07118
8.Donyell Marshall, 1993-94111
9.Hilton Armstrong, 2005-06107
10.Andre Drummond, 2011-1292
Amida Brimah, 2013-1492
Complete 1985-86 to 2023-24

some pretty awesome stats here
 
Blocks
1.Emeka Okafor, 2002-03156
2.Hasheem Thabeet, 2008-09152
3.Emeka Okafor, 2003-04147
Hasheem Thabeet, 2007-08147
5.Emeka Okafor, 2001-02138
6.Amida Brimah, 2014-15121
7.Hasheem Thabeet, 2006-07118
8.Donyell Marshall, 1993-94111
9.Hilton Armstrong, 2005-06107
10.Andre Drummond, 2011-1292
Amida Brimah, 2013-1492
Complete 1985-86 to 2023-24

some pretty awesome stats here
It’s close between Thabeet and Mek. It would be nice to see what the average was per game. Nothing against Mek he was/is an all time great. And to do what he did being at least 6” shorter than Thabeet is amazing. I just remember that when Thabeet was in the game the other team just said uncle and stopped taking the ball to the basket. Either way they are both all time great defensive players while at UConn.
 
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