Career Victories Watch

[Vowelguy]

To be clear, I agree with you 100%. I don't see why Hatchell gets credit for last year, except for sympathy sake. Although she sat on the bench, Pat Summitt was not 100% her last season either.

It's not sympathy; it's how the NCAA does it. Unless a coach formally steps aside (as Tara did the year she did the Olympic team), the head coach gets credited with all the wins/losses.

 

[ezxccsc]

From Today's Articles:

Once he gets to 900 - and Cincinnati has lost 12 straight to UConn - he will be only 198 wins away from Pat Summitt. In Geno years, that's between five and six seasons, considering his program has won an average of 35 games over the last 10 seasons. You figure he will stick around for that party. The wine should be very top-shelf.

This got me thinking ( always a dangerous proposition.) There are three active coaches who have more career wins than Geno. So, what are the odds that Geno is the first to break Pat Summitt's record? Yes, Geno is winning at a faster rate than the other three, but is it enough to overtake them? Here are the relevant stats:

North Carolina's Sylvia Hatchel (953 wins), Age 62, currently 18 wins this season.

Rutgers' C. Vivian Stringer (945 wins) Age 66, currently 16 wins this season.

Stanford's Tara VanDerveer (943 wins) Age 61, currently 16 wins this season.

UConn's Geno Auriemma (899 wins) Age 60, currently 20 wins this season.

So, who gets to 1098 first. Will Geno outlast the other three coaches?

Is ther a reason we don't include Andy Landers age 63 (Georgia) currently at 940 (17 to date this year) and Barbara Stevens age ? (Bentley) currently at 925 (8 to date this year) plays tonight? Is it because some or all their wins are from Div 2?

 

[j66kicker]

Interesting quote from Geno in today's Courant article:

"...I know if I was 30 years old right now, I'd want no part of it. But that's just me. I got in the game at the right time and lived through the best of times. Now we're at a time in college athletics that I'm glad I won't be a part of what's coming next."

 

[ndmb]

Is ther a reason we don't include Andy Landers age 63 (Georgia) currently at 940 (17 to date this year) and Barbara Stevens age ? (Bentley) currently at 925 (8 to date this year) plays tonight? Is it because some or all their wins are from Div 2?

As for Andy Landers, I think the odds of him beating Tara and holding off Geno are pretty small. But all of his wins were at D1 UGA. As for Stevens, yeah, I actually think that Division II wins should go in a separate category, which doesn't take anything away from her tremendous career. The Div II thing would actually affect Sylvia Hatchell the most, who got 272 wins at DII Francis Marion.

 

[Boreifs]

Is ther a reason we don't include Andy Landers age 63 (Georgia) currently at 940 (17 to date this year) and Barbara Stevens age ? (Bentley) currently at 925 (8 to date this year) plays tonight? Is it because some or all their wins are from Div 2?

Landers' first 81 wins were at a community college

 

[meyers7]

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Based on the last five years, you got to wonder if Tara does not end up beating Pat first and end up with the most ALL time. Will be one of the youngest to reach it, and does not seem to have any current plans of stopping.

Agree. Stringer is a little long in the tooth and doesn't win near as many each year. Hatchell has had health problems (hopefully they are done, but do take a lot out of a person) and doesn't win as many per year. BUT VanDerveer is young (relatively) and wins lots of games.

 

[Buzzyboy]

Good question. I think any of the 3 of them if they get close enough would stick around to break it.

I think Tara is easily the best coach of the three women currently ahead of Geno. Sylvia Hatchell has always had great talent and done less with it than either of the other two. Of course, nobody trumps Geno!

 

[Buzzyboy]

It's not sympathy; it's how the NCAA does it. Unless a coach formally steps aside (as Tara did the year she did the Olympic team), the head coach gets credited with all the wins/losses.

That happened with Paterno in the sense that he was handling very little of the head coaching responsibilities in his last years at Penn State and yet he's considered the all-time leading coach (since the NCAA reinstated his wins).

 

[Aluminny69]

Time to update the statistics.

Tara Vandeveer Age 62 980 wins
Geno Auriemma Age 62 955 wins
Sylvia Hatchell Age 64 975 wins
Muffet McGraw Age 60 820 wins

Add Jim Foster, age 67, with 865 total victories, and counting.

 

[Vowelguy]

List of college women's basketball coaches with 600 wins - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Tara should cross 1000 next year.
Could have Hatchell, C Viv, Geno, and D2 Barbara Stevens the following year.

 

[Aluminny69]

Thanks, forgot C. Vivian Stringer Age 68, 969 wins


Pat Summitt was 59 when she earned career win 1098.

 

[RunItUp!]

From Today's Articles:

Once he gets to 900 - and Cincinnati has lost 12 straight to UConn - he will be only 198 wins away from Pat Summitt. In Geno years, that's between five and six seasons, considering his program has won an average of 35 games over the last 10 seasons. You figure he will stick around for that party. The wine should be very top-shelf.

This got me thinking ( always a dangerous proposition.) There are three active coaches who have more career wins than Geno. So, what are the odds that Geno is the first to break Pat Summitt's record? Yes, Geno is winning at a faster rate than the other three, but is it enough to overtake them? Here are the relevant stats:

North Carolina's Sylvia Hatchel (953 wins), Age 62, currently 18 wins this season.

Rutgers' C. Vivian Stringer (945 wins) Age 66, currently 16 wins this season.

Stanford's Tara VanDerveer (943 wins) Age 61, currently 16 wins this season.

UConn's Geno Auriemma (899 wins) Age 60, currently 20 wins this season.

So, who gets to 1098 first. Will Geno outlast the other three coaches?

 

[RunItUp!]

Staying ahead of these other coaches should tell you that Geno is not retiring any time soon, except for health reasons. Stop drinking the wine!!!

 

[j66kicker]

Staying ahead of these other coaches should tell you that Geno is not retiring any time soon, except for health reasons. Stop drinking the wine!!!

If Geno wins 3 more games per year than Tara, it takes him 8 years to catch her (assuming both continue coaching).
@4 more wins per year: 6+ years
@5 more wins per year: 5 years
@ 6 more wins per year: 4+ years

Pat has 1098. With an average of 36 or more wins per year, Geno catches Pat in 4 years. Average of 29-35 wins takes him 5 years.

So, basically, if Geno coaches until he's 70, and the continues until Tara retires if she hasn't already by then, AND he puts up 39-40 wins per year, he will be #1 in career wins and probably put Muffet and everyone else out of reach too.