From what I saw tonight, I doubt this. But maybe I'm just underrating our defense.Won’t show as a bad loss either. Probably in the field come March.
From what I saw tonight, I doubt this. But maybe I'm just underrating our defense.Won’t show as a bad loss either. Probably in the field come March.
I mean there were several horrific calls toward the end of the game such that I wonder if Dan Hurley worked them enoughLooks like Dan Hurley spends more time with the refs than the team during time outs
It wasn't all that reassuring in the post game when Hurley seemed blindsided by seeing a 1-3-1.As much as I like Hurley his in game coaching lacks some polish. Sure we had a horrible shooting night and part of that was contributed due to WVU D. In the presser Coach mentioned the 1 3 1 that WVU instituted twords the end of game and how awful we did on the 1st possession of it. Imo would you not call a time out to collect your team for somthing like that? Calhoun would have in a heartbeat. Great coaches adjust to combat what is seen on the court. WVU played man all night up until Huggins installed that zone with about 4 min to play surprisingly we went cold in that stretch. Great call from a great coach Bobby Huggins. Could Hurley institute something like that? Hope he is taking notes cause if he does and with the team we currently have March can be very entertaining.
Yes he was! He went a bit further and said that they watched their games and they have not played that 1-3-1 all year. Surprise! I don't want to sound harsh on him but when I played ball, coaches would go over these types of situations in practice and in game time would immediately call a time out when seeing it.It wasn't all that reassuring in the post game when Hurley seemed blindsided by seeing a 1-3-1.
Going into this year, we all wondered who was going to be the alpha scorer on this team as you need one to win close games. By alpha, I mean the player who can create his own shot when the game is on the line and everyone knows who the alpha is. I really don’t think this team has one. Yes, Cole is having a good year, but he is not James Bouknight, Jalen Adams, Shabazz Napier, Kemba Walker, Caron Butler, Ray Allen….. I don’t think we will have an alpha this year, so Hurley is going to have to figure out another way to win close games. Maybe Hawkins can become the alpha, but he needs a lot of development.
The point was sometimes teams have bad shooting nights. Had we hit a couple and won, half the whiners on here would be celebrating an undermanned victory over WVU.We aren’t Villanova. The comparison that Nova missed threes just like us doesn’t make any sense or mean anything. They won and we didn’t though.
Agree that the coach is not at fault here. Too many foolish mistakes and hyper active immature players committing needless fouls and wild uncontrolled passing. As for threes not going in well IMHO there were too many rushed 3 point attempts. Those are mostly state of mind and attitude cause mistakes that you cannot effectively coach out of the player during the heat of the game. WV managed to keep UCONN off their game for too long stretches of time.There were good in game adjustments: playing Cole off the ball to lead to his back-to-back threes, good TO management to have them in the pocket at the end when they mattered, good lineups and management of foul trouble
Gripe all you want but here is what in-game coaching can't control (save yanking a player for every mistake they make, which you can't really do down 2 scholarship players):
- Most importantly - putting a body on every other player at the free-throw line. Not even talking about the mistake in the last couple of minutes (though it was bad), a huge momentum shift happened when literally nobody put a body on the shooter with ~5 minutes left, and the lead evaporated like that
- Taking the ball down the court completely out of control (multiple times, at that)
- Missing wide open, quality three-point looks
- Not helping the inbounder get the ball in or providing support getting up the court to get into the set faster
Save number 3, all of those things are elementary, youth level, basketball skills. Chalk it up to the first true road game in a while and some questionable calls, and you get what happened. That being said, this loss was totally preventable and is not on the coaches.
This team will be fine - that game would have been a W if players did any one of the above, but they didn't. Still not concerned given the personnel problems, and the fact that it was the first true road game in a while. Certainly frustrating, but not the end of the world
There is a good chance that Hawkins and Gaff will not be acting like freshman by February. Hope that is not too late.Losing 2/5 of your starting lineup hurts. This game would’ve been won with 1 or both of Sanogo & Martin. Despite the so-called depth, this exemplifies the problem with playing freshman for an extended period against a decent team in a hostile environment. Guys got flustered, missed shots and turned the ball over constantly. Unfortunately, Jackson and Hawkins don’t have the best handle and neither could shoot. Hawkins look like a deer in the headlight. But, let’s not go overboard, freshman Will get better and it won’t be long before we have one or both of Martin and Sanogo back.
I have been around basketball since I was a kid. My father was a successful coach at the middle school level for the better part of 20 years (he coached the All-Star travel team).
Whether or not one agrees with most or almost most of your points or not you made an intelligent reasonable argument and your points should Not be dismissed off hand as a whiner.I will start this with a mention that I am thankful that Dan Hurley was hired as our coach almost 4 years ago. In this time he has changed the culture, brought back a winners mentality and family atmosphere reminiscent of the program under Jim Calhoun, put together one of the best coaching staffs in all of college basketball, and taken our recruiting back to a level like we had during our best years under JC.
Overall he has proven to be the right man for the job of resurrecting our program, which was not a foregone conclusion when he was hired.
However, it has become obvious that he struggles at several very important aspects of in-game coaching. And I do not understand why some of you feel it necessary to defend his obvious mistakes during games like last night by criticizing those who are pointing out that he still needs to improve in this critical area of his job.
I have been around basketball since I was a kid. My father was a successful coach at the middle school level for the better part of 20 years (he coached the All-Star travel team). And even at that level he would have, within a possession or two, been able to recognize the switch that Huggins made when they went to a 1-3-1 defense and made an adjustment to his offense. IMMEDIATELY. And if the kids were not making the adjustments correctly he would have called timeout within a possession or two at most and walked through with them the adjustments they needed to make. Hurley did not do this. Unfortunately this has been a pattern with his coaching that has become more glaring over the last several years as our teams have become more competitive and found themselves in close games with good teams.
- and for anyone who wants to defend Hurley on the "but WVU had not used a 1-3-1 defense all year" argument... if you know anything about Huggins' history you know he has often used that defensive scheme during his coaching career. These are the types of things you have to be prepared for in a game like this. That is an integral part of Hurley's job.
In addition:
- He should have not kept Cole out of the game until WVU had tied the game at 47 and more importantly taken back momentum. We have seen Hurley make this mistake on multiple occasions in other games as well. He struggles with making critical adjustments on the fly.
- Our most effective offense all night was to have either one of the guards or AJ drive toward the middle while a cutter from the wing or baseline came from the other side. Man with the ball passes to the cutter who has a short jumper, lay up or dunk. This play sequence worked at least 4 or 5 times earlier in the game - yet we did not see it even once in the latter stages of the game. Why? We have seen this before, as well. We seem to tighten up late in close games and stop running any semblance of good offense.
Yes, I know... for many of you this will be "tl;dr". But to not be willing to admit to the obvious and say that people are just whining when the facts of what we watched say otherwise is just sticking your head in the sand.
Bottom line: overall I am very thankful for Hurley being chosen as the man to succeed Kevin Ollie and the disaster he left behind. On so many levels he has done a great job. However, it is also obvious that he needs to improve on several levels of his in-game coaching skills. And pointing out this obvious truth with multiple facts does NOT make me, or anyone else, a whiner.
At the fear of being 3.5 - 4 minute mark I mentioned to my wife that with the 3 ,s not being made we are going lose. I think I overheard Hurly tell Hawkins or Polley to forget the threes but that must have been just before or just after halftime.At the end of the day, the coaches can’t make the shots for the players. I have actually been impressed with the number of open looks from deep out team has gotten this year. But 3-21 from 3, many great looks, is unacceptable. Idk if it’s more shooting drills, getting the team a sports psychologist, or what, but a high school team could shoot a better percentage on the looks we got.
How does the clearly better team get points? Points determined by independent analysts who lose money when they get it wrong. This is prime Fellowship material.They have two losses to teams that they are clearly better than. This team should be undefeated...
I'd say after Cole he has the best handle on the team. Could have used a second handle last night. AJ, JG & JH are all pretty loose with the ball, especially at speed, not that TM isn't without fault as well. It's why I was hoping Diggins could work as a backup PG. We need depth for handling the ball.Martin is the bigger loss for sure. One of our best rebounders , plays great D , and gets double digit points. Also can take his guy off the dribble
I think you are. I mean no one has looked good against our defense this season. Auburn being the exceptionFrom what I saw tonight, I doubt this. But maybe I'm just underrating our defense.
This….mixing up defenses in crunch time seems like a given. So much so that you’d think everyone would do it, and everyone would expect it.It wasn't all that reassuring in the post game when Hurley seemed blindsided by seeing a 1-3-1.
That lack of confidence seemed to just get more pervasive with Hawkins and Gaffney and the game progressed. The two UConn loses could have been victories. As I said elsewhere hope Hawkins finds the maturity elixir before February.They broke the 1-3-1 pressure though the first time, Gaffney just didn't shoot it. He passed to Jackson on the baseline which led to a shot clock violation. Hawkins will be a great player but he had zero confidence by the end of the game. Even Polley was putting his head down after each miss. Cole was getting blitzed by 2 and forced to give up the ball. Despite critiques, the team was in a position to win the game. Box out a foul shot and hit a couple threes and its a W. This is isn't on Hurley. Onto the Bonnies.
And those missed 3s? That's on our guys and WVU putting up some solid D.This is so spot in. Nice work, no way was I typing all that lol.Last 4 minutes and especially commentary about the zone, starting score 51-48 us:
Not a lot to criticize on coaching. Couple bonehead Jackson plays, Cole missed three 3's, got the bad end of the whistle on the road, Akok didn't box out, and then we either didn't take or missed 5 open shots on the 2 zone possessions. In general had an open shot on every possession except the one Cole played hero ball.
- Hawkins gets called for a ridiculous touch foul at half court that they get sent to the line for. Hawkins had one forearm on the guy for 1/4 second. They did that all game. Stupid anticipatory call by ref. They make 1 FT, get a long offensive rebound off a brick FT. Cole strips Sherman but he gets it back and makes a tough finish. 51-51.
- Gaffney gets tripped and they call out of bounds on us.
- Akok is fronting and they make a decent lob over top and we foul. They make 1/2. 51-52.
- WVU half court trap/ 1-3-1. Kick ball off them. Next possession Jackson makes a great skip pass over the zone. Akok wide open from 3. He pump fakes. Has Gaffney wide open from 3. Drives to his right for some reason, then finds Gaffney who has moved in to help. Gaffney attacks middle of the zone, gets ganged up by 3 guys. Threat of pass to Whaley draws 4th defender in. Gaffney makes good read and passes to wiiiide open Jackson with 2 seconds left on shot clock, but pass is a little low and Jackson is standing on 3pt line instead of behind it. He doesn't shoot immediately, instead goes directly to dribbling. Doesn't realize shot clock and we get a violation. We had 1 somewhat open and 1 wide open shot. This was just an awful, awful play by Jackson in a 1 point game with 2.5 minutes left.
- Good D by Cole to cut off baseline. Jackson gets caught a little flat-footed. His man gets space and finds a mildly contested guy for 3. He misses, Akok is behind his guy but several feet from the basket. As they come in to the area, Hawkins just moves out of the way and doesn't box out. Their guy is in best rebounding position, but Akok scraps and knocks away and we get the rebound.
- Jackson gets the rebound, goes coast to coast, a spin move at half court. WVU is back in man to man. Drives into the paint, puts his back to basket, offers the ball directly to WVU, but manage to get a pass off. Cole jacks up a contested, pull up 3 with 19 seconds left instead of running offense. WVU calls timeout, 2 minutes left.
- Jackson nice d, walls up inside without fouling. But then his man gets the ball back and he's in his grill 25 feet from the hoop and gets blown by. Akok saves the day with block at the rim.
- Timeout UConn with 1.5 minutes left. WVU back in zone. Another kick ball. 20 seconds. Some trapping, nice cut by Cole but good D by WVU to block him and then recover to Whaley after the pass out. Whaley slips a screen and they double Hawkins, just like we've seen before with Sanogo. Hawkins doesn't or can't due to trap find Whaley on the roll. Now less than 5 seconds and Hawkins has to jack up a 3. Good defense. We get a tip oreb and miss, then another oreb (punishing the zone), Cole gets an absolutely wide open 3 kickout, great rhythm, in-and-out. Jackson oreb, blocked (probably fouled). Polley oreb, hoists a 3 immediately. They finally rebound. 5 shots on 1 possession while down 1 with a minute left - 2 shots at the rim and 3 missed 3's (1 wide open, 1 semi-open, 1 contested). Still 51-52.
- Sherman draws a foul on Hawkins. Just a half step beat and Sherman is good at drawing fouls. Makes first, Misses 2nd 51-53, Akok doesn't box out and just goes up for rebound with position but instead ball takes extra bounce on rim, guy swoops in and is first to ball in the air. We have to foul. McNeil makes both 51-55.
- Polley puts up a quick corner 3 after a quick push, miss. Tip, miss. Whaley 2nd tip in. 53-55.
- We press, they get ball in to McNeil on textbook press break. He makes 1/2, 53-56.
- We have a shot, but out of timeouts. Cole gets a pretty good look, sudden stop probably draws a foul as defender hits him in body in the air, but they'd never call with 1 second left (but would in other times in game).
Both Gaffney and Hawkins pinched on the shot resulting in nobody boxing out the shooter. If one of them called shooter before the free throw it would have been an easy defensive rebound. This is basic fundamental basketball.They make 1 FT, get a long offensive rebound off a brick FT. Cole strips Sherman but he gets it back and makes a tough finish. 51-51