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Calipari on the transfer portal

The visible sense of entitlement which is manifesting itself in a lack of effort and quitting in the middle of games is already a big problem when your entire team is mercenary and can leave at any time. I keep bringing up the Clemson/Penn State bowl game a couple of days ago where it could not have been clearer that neither team cared at all about the game. I think these athletes forget that they are entertainers, and are getting paid to entertain. And I also think that a 20 year old suddenly getting $100,000+ a year is going to have trouble adjusting and dealing with the implications of that.
 
nelsonmuntz said:
The visible sense of entitlement which is manifesting itself in a lack of effort and quitting in the middle of games is already a big problem when your entire team is mercenary and can leave at any time. I keep bringing up the Clemson/Penn State bowl game a couple of days ago where it could not have been clearer that neither team cared at all about the game. I think these athletes forget that they are entertainers, and are getting paid to entertain. And I also think that a 20 year old suddenly getting $100,000+ a year is going to have trouble adjusting and dealing with the implications of that.
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Years ago I read a story that tracked SEC football players over an 20 year period and it was not pretty. I can’t find it, but I’ll keep digging. This was when cars were the perk. Even if a kid gets $500,000 but spends money on cars and clothes, they will be in trouble in ten years
 
How many of Cal's players have earned degrees? How many of Cal's players did he take to Arkansas when he left Kentucky? Before the rules changed how many of UNC bb players got degrees of any value?

Kids change schools for academic reasons. Professors and Coaches change schools for financial reasons. Are there restrictions? If not then why should players have a separate standard? I can't see the courts supporting this.

I agree with nelson. This is entertainment. I read reviews before going to a restaurant. If I go to a restaurant and am not satisfied I let management know. If I feel management is receptive to my complaints I might give them a second chance. But I'm the one in control with how I deal with good or bad entertainment.

If the sports entertainment product goes bad enough that I'm no longer entertained I'll move on. I'll certainly be bummed having to give up a sport that I've followed since the late 50's. But I'm not going to support a hypocritical ...hole whose only intention to lobby for a change is that he no longer has a monopoly on controlling player payoffs and will be exposed for the fraud he is.
 
ctchamps said:
If the sports entertainment product goes bad enough that I'm no longer entertained I'll move on. I'll certainly be bummed having to give up a sport that I've followed since the late 50's.
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Most of us want to see college basketball survive and thrive instead of disappearing.

It's fine you don't care if college basketball disappears but you're in the minority of college basketball fans.
 
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I couldn’t watch more than 30 seconds of this garbage. Is he REALLY saying he’s concerned about college bb players graduating?? Or having some kind of loyalty to their school after spending one year there??? Could there BE any bigger case of the pot calling the kettle black???

All that is wrong w college basketball was holding the microphone in his hand in that piece. I really can’t believe he’s still kicking, never mind thriving, in college bb today.
 
superjohn said:
Most of us want to see college basketball survive and thrive instead of disappearing.

It's fine you don't care if college basketball disappears but you're in the minority of college basketball fans.
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Typical of you. Making it sound as if I don’t care. I want to see it survive as well.

The difference between us is you insist the players conform to your needs and don’t give a rats as about their preference or needs. You were the biggest hypocrite in the football forum regarding Bell and Fagnano.
 
uconngb said:
I couldn’t watch more than 30 seconds of this garbage. Is he REALLY saying he’s concerned about college bb players graduating?? Or having some kind of loyalty to their school after spending one year there??? Could there BE any bigger case of the pot calling the kettle black???

All that is wrong w college basketball was holding the microphone in his hand in that piece. I really can’t believe he’s still kicking, never mind thriving, in college bb today.
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It’s a joke. I’m just waiting to see how many people in this forum avoid calling him out.
 
ctchamps said:
Typical of you. Making it sound as if I don’t care. I want to see it survive as well.

The difference between us is you insist the players conform to your needs and don’t give a rats as about their preference or needs. You were the biggest hypocrite in the football forum regarding Bell and Fagnano.
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Typical of you.

Show me where I was a hypocrite regarding Fagnano and Bell. You better have receipts.
 
Teflon John has been an ATM machine in CBB for a long time. Pre-NIL Just changes banks(College Programs) every few years once boosters/donors tire of the L's at Tournament time.
 
Cal is worried about mental health. Izzo worried about PT for some kid who may get benched if he recruits a better player. Lol! my @**. What a bunch of b.s. These dudes are grasping for whatever they can come up with.

The one comment Cal made that illustrates he doesn't really understand two of the main points to all these changes. Which are ability to transfer and ability to earn money.

Calipari: what do you think they transfer for? someone help me.
Someone in crowd: money (i think that's what they said, it's tough to hear)
Calipari: that's it

Calipari's solution is one transfer only without penalty. I assume the penalty is the old penalty. Sitting a year. Or something similar. But the ability to transfer and ability to make money is basically the entire purpose of these changes. But Calipari's tone suggests he thinks his solution is a minor modification to the new system/rules. Like he discovered a solution to a loophole the NCAA and everyone else missed. In reality he's suggesting a change that completely contradicts the point of these changes. Nice work Cal. You get it.
 
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MexicoHusky said:
Cal is worried about mental health. Izzo worried about PT for some kid who may get benched if he recruits a better player. Lol! my @**. What a bunch of b.s. These dudes are grasping for whatever they can come up with.

The one comment Cal made that illustrates he doesn't really understand two of the main points to all these changes. Which are ability to transfer and ability to earn money.

Calipari: what do you think they transfer for? someone help me.
Someone in crowd: money (i think that's what they said, it's tough to hear)
Calipari: that's it

Calipari's solution is one transfer only without penalty. I assume the penalty is the old penalty. Sitting a year. Or something similar. But the ability to transfer and ability to make money is basically the entire purpose of these changes. But Calipari's tone suggests he thinks his solution is a minor modification to the new system/rules. Like he discovered a solution to a loophole the NCAA and everyone else missed. In reality he's suggesting a change that completely contradicts the point of these changes. Nice work Cal. You get it.
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Basically, he is acknowledging the fact that unlimited transfers and NIL have, essentially created free agency in college sports. The number of times you can transfer without having to sit out is probably the best practical fix out there. Raining in NIL would be enormously helpful, but is unlikely due to court cases.

Calipari is still a slime ball, but in this particular instance, he's right.
 
superjohn said:
Typical of you.

Show me where I was a hypocrite regarding Fagnano and Bell. You better have receipts.
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In the Fagnano going to the Shrine bowl thread you made this dig:

Couldn't be there for his teammates but he'll be at this one for himself.
I would have respected you if you wrote couldn't have been there for superjohn. But you made yourself noble by making it about his teammates. You're every bit as selfish as he was. However he had more on the line than you - his potential future career. For you it's a loss of entertainment.

In the Fagnano and Bell sitting out thread you wrote several posts putting them in a bad light:

They're also paid handsomely and they're quitting on their teammates and the fans before the job is complete. Just because that's what some players do now it doesn't make it right.
Both Fagnano and Bell were great for UConn football but let's not pretend UConn wasn't great for them too. Play your final game and finish what you started.

They did a lot for a dead program. The way you wrote this and subsequent messages in that thread you minimize their impact for our program. They had a lot riding for their future. They had agents who had to canvas the NFL and learn what they had to do for their futures best interest. Again you minimize what is important for them and maximize the importance for your need.

They want to get paid like professionals and they do get paid like professionals but they don't want everything that goes along with being a professional. Now perfectly healthy players who get paid a lot of money are sitting out the biggest game of the season just because.

Just because they want to have a professional career in the NFL and just because they might have wanted to make you happy but had their own priorities and didn't!

An exhibition game? It's a bowl game, it's what UConn plays all season for the opportunity/privilege to play in. I care about the game, the players who are going to play care about the game, our fans care about the game, the school cares about the game. They aren't hurt, that's the whole point. Players used to play through severe injuries, some still play through pain/injury. Fagnano, Bell, and many other players who are going to sit out games aren't injured or hurt, they're perfectly healthy.

And do you know for a fact that they don't care about the game, or the program or their teammates or the fans.


You write great op ed pieces. You know how to put sound bites together to win you points of view. You know how to rally and instigate a popular point of view. I give you a lot of credit for your capabilities. But calling out these kids for being selfish when your primary motivation is for your selfish entertainment need I consider that hypocritical.

And when I write this:

I'll certainly be bummed having to give up a sport that I've followed since the late 50's.

And you respond with this:

It's fine you don't care if college basketball disappears

you expose who you really are. That's what I meant when I wrote "typical of you. Making it sound like I don't care."
 
CL82 said:
Basically, he is acknowledging the fact that unlimited transfers and NIL have, essentially created free agency in college sports. The number of times you can transfer without having to sit out is probably the best practical fix out there. Raining in NIL would be enormously helpful, but is unlikely due to court cases.

Calipari is still a slime ball, but in this particular instance, he's right.
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Right message, wrong messenger IMO. Guy has been about as crooked as it gets in college hoops for a long, long time.
 
He doesn't have a solution, because his solution isn't legally possible until measures have been taken. So congrats to him. He has an idea and no plan.
 
I don't think we can put the genie back in the bottle and restrict player movement based on an arbitrary cutoff. But it makes sense that a player who transfers 4x will have a hard time transferring enough credits to graduate. Shouldn't education still be a consideration in college sports? Maybe feasibility of timely graduation should be part of the calculus. You can't transfer unless your new school accepts enough credits to keep you on track for graduation. It won't stop the NBA talent from hopping but it might slow down the second tier of talent Just brainstorming ideas.
 
Umami Zen said:
Teflon John has been an ATM machine in CBB for a long time. Pre-NIL Just changes banks(College Programs) every few years once boosters/donors tire of the L's at Tournament time.
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Calipari has proven that he is a mediocre coach and only succeeded because he was cheating at a level that other schools wouldn't do. Now it isn't cheating anymore, so we don't have to worry about this aspect of Calipari.
 
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There are issues with the legalities, but contracts are the solution, IMO. Make all freshman contracts one year. After that year they can be a free agent and leave if they want, or the school can sign them to a multi year contract, binding them to that school for the specified number of years.
 
Greedo said:
There are issues with the legalities, but contracts are the solution, IMO. Make all freshman contracts one year. After that year they can be a free agent and leave if they want, or the school can sign them to a multi year contract, binding them to that school for the specified number of years.
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Has always been the solution. We can't have kids moving 4 schools in 4 years, it leaves a stink on the sport that is hard to ignore. I like the idea of a portal at this point, it's seeing kids in 4 different jersey's like AJ Storr that smells bad.

I listened to a pod talking about the kid at USC being potentially third team AA, at 26 years old. There are so many obvious legal restrictions that need to be slapped on the sport, simply no one willing to step forward at risk of being sued.
 
CL82 said:
Basically, he is acknowledging the fact that unlimited transfers and NIL have, essentially created free agency in college sports. The number of times you can transfer without having to sit out is probably the best practical fix out there. Raining in NIL would be enormously helpful, but is unlikely due to court cases.

Calipari is still a slime ball, but in this particular instance, he's right.
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he's not just acknowledging de facto free agency. He advocating to revert the changes. Back to something similar to how it was. Although he does not seem to realize he's advocating to revert the changes back to how it was.

If he were actually acknowledging we have free agency in college sports he would be advocating to handle these issues how professionals handle these situations... with professional contracts.
 
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Greedo said:
There are issues with the legalities, but contracts are the solution, IMO. Make all freshman contracts one year. After that year they can be a free agent and leave if they want, or the school can sign them to a multi year contract, binding them to that school for the specified number of years.
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Good luck getting any kid to commit to your school with a multi year contract when other schools are willing to offer more flexibility
 
ctchamps said:
In the Fagnano going to the Shrine bowl thread you made this dig:

Couldn't be there for his teammates but he'll be at this one for himself.
I would have respected you if you wrote couldn't have been there for superjohn. But you made yourself noble by making it about his teammates. You're every bit as selfish as he was. However he had more on the line than you - his potential future career. For you it's a loss of entertainment.

In the Fagnano and Bell sitting out thread you wrote several posts putting them in a bad light:

They're also paid handsomely and they're quitting on their teammates and the fans before the job is complete. Just because that's what some players do now it doesn't make it right.
Both Fagnano and Bell were great for UConn football but let's not pretend UConn wasn't great for them too. Play your final game and finish what you started.

They did a lot for a dead program. The way you wrote this and subsequent messages in that thread you minimize their impact for our program. They had a lot riding for their future. They had agents who had to canvas the NFL and learn what they had to do for their futures best interest. Again you minimize what is important for them and maximize the importance for your need.

They want to get paid like professionals and they do get paid like professionals but they don't want everything that goes along with being a professional. Now perfectly healthy players who get paid a lot of money are sitting out the biggest game of the season just because.

Just because they want to have a professional career in the NFL and just because they might have wanted to make you happy but had their own priorities and didn't!

An exhibition game? It's a bowl game, it's what UConn plays all season for the opportunity/privilege to play in. I care about the game, the players who are going to play care about the game, our fans care about the game, the school cares about the game. They aren't hurt, that's the whole point. Players used to play through severe injuries, some still play through pain/injury. Fagnano, Bell, and many other players who are going to sit out games aren't injured or hurt, they're perfectly healthy.

And do you know for a fact that they don't care about the game, or the program or their teammates or the fans.


You write great op ed pieces. You know how to put sound bites together to win you points of view. You know how to rally and instigate a popular point of view. I give you a lot of credit for your capabilities. But calling out these kids for being selfish when your primary motivation is for your selfish entertainment need I consider that hypocritical.

And when I write this:

I'll certainly be bummed having to give up a sport that I've followed since the late 50's.

And you respond with this:

It's fine you don't care if college basketball disappears

you expose who you really are. That's what I meant when I wrote "typical of you. Making it sound like I don't care."
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I didn't minimize any of their contributions to the UConn program (quite the opposite) or what UConn did for them. I said Fagnano was playing for himself during bowl season and not for his teammates because that's the truth and it's in no way hypocritical.

Fagnano quit before the season was over and Bell reconsidered but played only one offensive series.
 
CL82 said:
Basically, he is acknowledging the fact that unlimited transfers and NIL have, essentially created free agency in college sports. The number of times you can transfer without having to sit out is probably the best practical fix out there. Raining in NIL would be enormously helpful, but is unlikely due to court cases.

Calipari is still a slime ball, but in this particular instance, he's right.
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Having no sit to transfer just as nil was starting was the undoing

Either without the other would have been fine. Didn’t listen to Cal, but if y required players to sit a year for any transfer, who is going to pay them for that? You still have the issue with incoming Fr, but the transfer churn would be over

Also wonder if any school will have multi year Nil soon?
 
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For great coaches who can recruit like K, Calipari, Saban etc, the portal NIL is another headache to deal with. Bc they were already getting the top players in the country. They should hate NIL/Portal.

You open the door to schools that could never recruit as well to compete and even the playing field.

So programs that were already great with great coaches dont benefit nearly as much.
 
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