California state university system cancels fall classes on campus

[8893]

Damn. I mean I love my kids, but I'd love to see them on a campus this fall and not living at home:

California cancels fall university classes as Fauci warns of reopening too soon

California's state university system, the largest in the United States, canceled classes on Tuesday for the fall semester because of the coronavirus, while Los Angeles County said its stay-at-home order was likely to be extended by three months.

www.reuters.com

 

[GHSWolverines]

I wonder if this will this effect sports both amateur and professional?

 

[Ts5034]

This may be a stupid question, but Is It possible college football and basketball are in fact played this season, but some schools will just not be participating? If NYC is still a hot spot come September/October, which is a strong possibility, and St, John’s cannot return, will the Big East just go on and play without them for the season?

 

[M.S.G.]

Great question. When I saw this news story yesterday, I thought that's a baaaaaaaaaaad sign for fall sports in general.

 

[StllH8L8ner]

Unfortunately I can see this plan spreading to NY...then NJ...then eastern PA...then CT because certain places like to follow each other. They just need one area to take the initial plunge.

I hope I'm wrong.

 

[8893]

I wonder if this will this effect sports both amateur and professional?

This may be a stupid question, but Is It possible college football and basketball are in fact played this season, but some schools will just not be participating? If NYC is still a hot spot come September/October, which is a strong possibility, and St, John’s cannot return, will the Big East just go on and play without them for the season?

Great question. When I saw this news story yesterday, I thought that's a baaaaaaaaaaad sign for fall sports in general.

Unfortunately I can see this plan spreading to NY...then NJ...then eastern PA...then CT because certain places like to follow each other. They just need one area to take the initial plunge.

I hope I'm wrong.

I hope I'm wrong, but I don't see any logical way that the dominoes falling don't lead to the cancellation of fall college sports for all NCAA schools. I believe the NCAA presidents have already said that they will not have sports without students back on campus. California is the largest state university system in the country and I don't see the NCAA taking a divided stance on this.

 

[JB75]

I understand why California wud cancel fall sports but why make the decision this early? Why not wait another month till mid June? Why the burning rush to call it so fast? Does fall semester start in late July out there? Or they just trying to be the first ones? Extra strange when u take into account that just a couple weeks ago Cali was talking about reopening public schools in July. So weird

 

[JimHurley]

I understand why California wud cancel fall sports but why make the decision this early? Why not wait another month till mid June? Why the burning rush to call it so fast? Does fall semester start in late July out there? Or they just trying to be the first ones? Extra strange when u take into account that just a couple weeks ago Cali was talking about reopening public schools in July. So weird

Exactly. This is nuts. To make a determination now, in the middle of May, is insane. California, Illinois, Pennsylvania, and New York are going to see mass protests real soon.

 

[HuskyFich]

I understand why California wud cancel fall sports but why make the decision this early? Why not wait another month till mid June? Why the burning rush to call it so fast? Does fall semester start in late July out there? Or they just trying to be the first ones? Extra strange when u take into account that just a couple weeks ago Cali was talking about reopening public schools in July. So weird

Fall Sports have spring and summer workouts. If they aren't back on campus by early June, especially football, then it isn't happening

 

[Letsgohuskies11]

Exactly. This is nuts. To make a determination now, in the middle of May, is insane. California, Illinois, Pennsylvania, and New York are going to see mass protests real soon.

Mass protests because fall sports are cancelled?

 

[HuskyBandDad]

Fall Sports have spring and summer workouts. If they aren't back on campus by early June, especially football, then it isn't happening

Some Big 10 schools planning workouts in next 2 weeks

 

[HuskyFich]

Some Big 10 schools planning workouts in next 2 weeks

And Florida reopened its beaches, just saying lol.

 

[JimHurley]

Mass protests because fall sports are cancelled?

Over constantly moving the goal posts on the length of stay at home orders.

 

[CL82]

Mass protests because fall sports are cancelled?

I mean, I could see it if beer was cancelled...

 

[Letsgohuskies11]

Over constantly moving the goal posts on the length of stay at home orders.

If they are upfront as to what their criteria is to reopen the economy and show progress in doing that, NY state has already said that portions of the state will be able to slowly reopen this weekend. If people want to be dumb and crowd beaches with no regard for each other then having to reclose down is the result.

 

[JimHurley]

If they are upfront as to what their criteria is to reopen the economy and show progress in doing that, NY state has already said that portions of the state will be able to slowly reopen this weekend. If people want to be dumb and crowd beaches with no regard for each other then having to reclose down is the result.

There is new evidence that the majority of those getting sick are the ones staying home. Transmission is much less likely in open air. Take a look at PA. Less than 4,000 deaths of which 70% are from nursing homes. Yet they just extended their stay at home orders. Why? Slowly and safely reopen the economy while still protecting the vulnerable. You can do both!!!

 

[Jimdish255]

Over constantly moving the goal posts on the length of stay at home orders.

COVID19 is a moving target so yes these particular goalposts are moving. The rest is a balance between preparation and priorities.

 

[Letsgohuskies11]

There is new evidence that the majority of those getting sick are the ones staying home. Transmission is much less likely in open air. Take a look at PA. Less than 4,000 deaths of which 70% are from nursing homes. Yet they just extended their stay at home orders. Why? Slowly and safely reopen the economy while still protecting the vulnerable. You can do both!!!

You realize that a lot of restaurants and businesses where people work are all in enclosed spaces right?

 

[Jimdish255]

There is new evidence that the majority of those getting sick are the ones staying home. Transmission is much less likely in open air. Take a look at PA. Less than 4,000 deaths of which 70% are from nursing homes. Yet they just extended their stay at home orders. Why? Slowly and safely reopen the economy while still protecting the vulnerable. You can do both!!!

It didn't walk into their homes. Someone brought it in from outside transmission.

 

[phillionaire]

If everyone wore masks we'd be more likely to have football this fall. But for some idiots, it's "muh freedom and choice" to be a selfish a hole.

 

[superjohn]

Over 60% of deaths in CT. in nursing homes, over 60% in Massachussets, 72% in New Hampshire, 80% in Minnesota. 90% of deaths in CT. last week were in nursing homes.

 

[JimHurley]

You realize that a lot of restaurants and businesses where people work are all in enclosed spaces right?

Yes, that is why I said safely and slowly reopen. I’m not in the “reopen everything immediately” crowd.

It didn't walk into their homes. Someone brought it in from outside transmission.

Correct, but it’s not possible to avoid leaving the house completely. People need to eat. It’s when people go out and then stay confined in a house that they see the transmission.

If everyone wore masks we'd be more likely to have football this fall. But for some idiots, it's "muh freedom and choice" to be a selfish a hole.

THIS, sadly.

 

[JimHurley]

Over 60% of deaths in CT. in nursing homes, over 60% in Massachussets, 72% in New Hampshire, 80% in Minnesota. 90% of deaths in CT. last week were in nursing homes.

Exactly, and largely because clown governors required nursing homes to take coronavirus patients. Slowly reopen the economy while protecting the vulnerable.

 

[superjohn]

Yes, that is why I said safely and slowly reopen. I’m not in the “reopen everything immediately” crowd.



Correct, but it’s not possible to avoid leaving the house completely. People need to eat. It’s when people go out and then stay confined in a house that they see the transmission.



THIS, sadly.

Just about nobody is in that crowd but it's a way for people to shutdown dialogue.

 

[NJHusky]

Wasn’t there info that in NY 66% of those positive were in self quarantine?

 

[HobokenHusky]

It shouldn't at this point, but it really does amaze me how an entire state government can come to some sort of consensus that this is a reasonable decision to make on May 12th. Just completely defines all logic.

 

[UCTitleTown]

California goes to the extreme with everything they do. I'd never pay regular tuition for on-line learning, and unless I was a Senior, would seriously consider transferring.

 

[upstater]

I think many universities will do this but I will note to everyone reading this thread that U. Cal. officially put out a statement that read "The University of California system is not following California State University's example, at this point." This statement raised red alerts for me. If these decisions are indeed being made by the Chancellors of the state system and not by consultation with the Dept. of Education and Governor, if indeed the decisions are made separately for all public education systems, then how can we justify divergent responses to a public health issue?

This is why people start becoming suspicious especially in a state like California with its atypical demographics (high birth rate, younger population) and heavy tech-ed. industry. Cal. State is the less affluent system. I don't really believe this decision was made as a dry run for online education throughout the system but you would have to be naive not see that there are powerful interests and actors using this crisis as an opportunity. Again, it is not the reason why the decision was made. I don't believe that. But there are certainly people involved licking their chops.

 

[TXHuskyFan]

Did anyone listen to the head of the system talk about it or is everyone just relying on headlines and being shocked? He said he is doing this to allow the most of time for preparation and decision making. It is not easy to shift an entire system (well almost entire because they will still allow in person learning is some certain cases) to distance learning. Doing this now allows for the professors to prepare to enable the best possible learning situation. Most already know how to teach in person and are on cruise control in the classroom. It is more difficult to switch from in person to distance learning than the other way around. This allows professors time to adjust and prepare and make the best possible learning situation. Also, allows the students to make a decision about their future. Rather than enrolling, paying, and then being blindsided with distance learning at the last minute, they can decide yes or no, and then not have to worry about residential arrangements, etc that may fall through at the last minute. They know what they are signing up for. He made good arguments for making the decision now and living with it. Now for my additional take, I would think that that the Cal State program has a significant Asian population that will not allowed back into the country in August. This is a way for Cal State to receive payment and keep those students enrolled and able to “take classes” and more importantly pay. I may be wrong on that point as it’s my guess, but it’s a los easier to reach California from Asia than the east coast so it seems logical.

 

[Get a Job]

It shouldn't at this point, but it really does amaze me how an entire state government can come to some sort of consensus that this is a reasonable decision to make on May 12th. Just completely defines all logic.

I'm not just picking on you (I'm also picking on @JimHurley, for example) , but, with all due respect, no one on this board has any idea what plates the decision makers in California are spinning. It may or may not be the case that they are jumping the gun and being overly cautious in canceling fall on-campus classes, but to definitively state that the decision is premature, or crazy, or anything else is completely baseless. (Unless you are actually involved in the decision in California. In that case I take it all back.)