Calhoun in no rush to unveil his future | The Boneyard

Calhoun in no rush to unveil his future

Status
Not open for further replies.
Joined
Aug 26, 2011
Messages
7,125
Reaction Score
7,588
Anyone who has a subscription to the Republican-American want to give us anything of note in this article?

http://www.rep-am.com/sports/uconn/638813.txt
Nothing big except that Calhoun usually makes this decision in August and that he has met with Manual a number of times.Manual hasn't pressed JC for a decision according to the article. I have a hard time believing that but it is doubtful that Manual wants to take on JC this early in his career at Uconn.
 
Joined
Sep 16, 2011
Messages
50,333
Reaction Score
177,339
Status quo, I'm sorry but this is BS. Calhoun told the media how important it was for things to be decided quickly and decisively for the future of the program. He said he would be making a decision on final 4 weekend or shortly thereafter. This is not being handled well at all.
 
Joined
Aug 26, 2011
Messages
5,681
Reaction Score
16,311
Coach has every right to retire when he wants. But august? Let's say he retires in august. Is Blaney coach for a year while the search goes on. Thst timeline gives the university no time to find a coach other than one who isn't working or one that's on the staff. When the day comes his retirement, it could end up like NC when Dean Smith retired.
 
Joined
Aug 31, 2011
Messages
2,957
Reaction Score
5,401
We know Calhoun wants Ollie to be the next guy and it seems that Manuel is lukewarm to the idea right now.

I suppose Calhoun could be trying to convince Manuel to hand the program over to Ollie and if he gets Manuel's buy-in, maybe he does retire afterall.
 
Joined
Aug 29, 2011
Messages
12,887
Reaction Score
21,541
Coach has every right to retire when he wants. But august? Let's say he retires in august. Is Blaney coach for a year while the search goes on. Thst timeline gives the university no time to find a coach other than one who isn't working or one that's on the staff. When the day comes his retirement, it could end up like NC when Dean Smith retired.
Probably not. North Carolina went to the Final Four that year. As of right now, UCONN can't even go to the NCAA Tournament...but good thought. Frankly I disagree with this idea that Calhoun can retire, or for that matter keep coaching, whenever it suits him. He has, it seems to me, a responsibility to UCONN to make his decision in a reasonable timeframe, which I think is one where UCONN has a reasonable opportunity to find a replacement. Waiting until August so that there are few options available thereby almost forcing UCONN to name Ollie or some other member of the current staff, while it might be completely right under the terms of his contract, represents bad faith on his part to me.
 
Joined
Sep 16, 2011
Messages
50,333
Reaction Score
177,339
It's pretty clear that Calhoun is angling to make Ollie the next coach, I fear a power struggle is coming up if it isn't happening already.
 
Joined
Aug 26, 2011
Messages
5,681
Reaction Score
16,311
Probably not. North Carolina went to the Final Four that year. As of right now, UCONN can't even go to the NCAA Tournament...but good thought. Frankly I disagree with this idea that Calhoun can retire, or for that matter keep coaching, whenever it suits him. He has, it seems to me, a responsibility to UCONN to make his decision in a reasonable timeframe, which I think is one where UCONN has a reasonable opportunity to find a replacement. Waiting until August so that there are few options available thereby almost forcing UCONN to name Ollie or some other member of the current staff, while it might be completely right under the terms of his contract, represents bad faith on his part to me.

I forgot they went to the final four. I just remember that they suck under? What's his name?
 

Fishy

Elite Premium Poster
Joined
Aug 24, 2011
Messages
18,242
Reaction Score
133,035
I'm sorry, but if August is going to become the new yearly decision date, Manuel needs to put his foot in Calhoun's ass.

We can't keep half-assing our way through the summer recruiting periods with a half-committed, part-time coach. Kids are duck*ing committing in the summers these days and more than a few are not going to commit to a school that has a 69-year old coach who might hit 1/2 the events and who might let them know if he intends on coaching again sometime in August.

If we're that on the fence, it's time to order the gold watch and plan the retirement party.

Calhoun has 'earned' the right to retire when he pleases...within reason. He has not earned the right to hold the program hostage to a time frame that is not in its best interest nor has he earned the right to designate his successor. UConn has treated him very well - he makes a terrific amount of money, they've been accommodating to his health issues whenever he has had them and he has not been significantly punished for the issues that have led to probation and now the postseason ban.

But they have to draw a line in the sand somewhere - August is a good place to draw it.
 

SubbaBub

Your stupidity is ruining my country.
Joined
Aug 26, 2011
Messages
32,193
Reaction Score
25,183
The answer, as always, is this, "He is coming back, unless he decides not to come back."

Absent a health issue, which we've seen hasn't stopped him yet, he will be back.

You may all go about your day.

Sent from my MB860 using Tapatalk 2
 
Joined
Sep 16, 2011
Messages
50,333
Reaction Score
177,339
Fishy, 100% agree. I cannot for the life of me understand how some people can just look at what's happening and say this isn't hurting us.
 

Fishy

Elite Premium Poster
Joined
Aug 24, 2011
Messages
18,242
Reaction Score
133,035
I am fairly confident that Jim Calhoun will be back next season. I might even be willing to wager that he'll be back the year after as well - I think he wants to hand this thing off with the new practice facility open and ready to roll.

Unfortunately, all a recruit will know about is the hand-wringing in the press and the constant whispers into his ear about Calhoun's age and iffy status.

It's been a drag on the program for a couple of years now.
 
Joined
Sep 16, 2011
Messages
50,333
Reaction Score
177,339
It's absolutely been a drag on the program, it's like Calhoun purposely drags it out every year. I'm very worried about Calhoun trying to strongarm Ollie into the head coaching position. These things don't often end well when you have a stubborn old legend trying to get his way. Calhoun is my favorite coach ever in any sport but it should not be his decision who takes over, Manuel and Herbst will be the ones whose jobs will be in jeopardy if it's a bad hire, they are the ones who have to make the decision. Calhoun always talks about how proud he is of what he's built here and that we are a program that will be successful long after he is gone, I just hope his stubborness doesn't get in the way.
 
Joined
Aug 26, 2011
Messages
2,050
Reaction Score
4,491
I'm sorry, but if August is going to become the new yearly decision date, Manuel needs to put his foot in Calhoun's ass.

We can't keep half-assing our way through the summer recruiting periods with a half-committed, part-time coach. Kids are duck*ing committing in the summers these days and more than a few are not going to commit to a school that has a 69-year old coach who might hit 1/2 the events and who might let them know if he intends on coaching again sometime in August.

If we're that on the fence, it's time to order the gold watch and plan the retirement party.

Calhoun has 'earned' the right to retire when he pleases...within reason. He has not earned the right to hold the program hostage to a time frame that is not in its best interest nor has he earned the right to designate his successor. UConn has treated him very well - he makes a terrific amount of money, they've been accommodating to his health issues whenever he has had them and he has not been significantly punished for the issues that have led to probation and now the postseason ban.

But they have to draw a line in the sand somewhere - August is a good place to draw it.

Amen hoss amen
 
Joined
Aug 24, 2011
Messages
3,029
Reaction Score
3,726
If three quarters of this board has already given up about next season, then why are you so concerned about Ollie perhaps being the coach for a year and then they conduct a real coaching search?

If next year is just a give away year anyway, why not let Ollie have a year to coach, and then do your coaching search after the season? That's what Ohio State did and that's what Arkansas is going to do.
 
Joined
Feb 7, 2012
Messages
5,803
Reaction Score
26,267
If three quarters of this board has already given up about next season, then why are you so concerned about Ollie perhaps being the coach for a year and then they conduct a real coaching search?

If next year is just a give away year anyway, why not let Ollie have a year to coach, and then do your coaching search after the season? That's what Ohio State did and that's what Arkansas is going to do.

i think the logic is if ollie is not the next coach, its far more beneficial to use the lost year as time for the new coach to get situated, get his staff in place, and start recruiting. if we wait until this time next year to then name a new coach, we will have the same difficulty landing recruits for 2013-14 and will most likely delay uconn's ability to bounce back that season.
 

Waquoit

Mr. Positive
Joined
Aug 24, 2011
Messages
33,634
Reaction Score
88,514
I don't get the "why". Why is he doing it this way? How is he benefitting?
 
Joined
Aug 26, 2011
Messages
9,383
Reaction Score
34,306
I don't get the "why". Why is he doing it this way? How is he benefitting?


The "why?" almost has to be that he is trying to get Ollie the job. There just doesn't seem to be any other logical answer.
 
Joined
Aug 26, 2011
Messages
1,567
Reaction Score
1,138
I'm sorry, but if August is going to become the new yearly decision date, Manuel needs to put his foot in Calhoun's ass.

We can't keep half-assing our way through the summer recruiting periods with a half-committed, part-time coach. Kids are duck*ing committing in the summers these days and more than a few are not going to commit to a school that has a 69-year old coach who might hit 1/2 the events and who might let them know if he intends on coaching again sometime in August.

If we're that on the fence, it's time to order the gold watch and plan the retirement party.

Calhoun has 'earned' the right to retire when he pleases...within reason. He has not earned the right to hold the program hostage to a time frame that is not in its best interest nor has he earned the right to designate his successor. UConn has treated him very well - he makes a terrific amount of money, they've been accommodating to his health issues whenever he has had them and he has not been significantly punished for the issues that have led to probation and now the postseason ban.

But they have to draw a line in the sand somewhere - August is a good place to draw it.
I say June is that line in the sand. The recruiting season begins in JULY.
 
Joined
Aug 25, 2011
Messages
16,697
Reaction Score
33,084
People there is no certainty in him coming back. Sure he intends to and he wants to but that does not make it certain, especially if he is looking to announce late summer. His actions reflect 'I am coming back BUT I will wait until August to 'officially' announce'.

Calhoun simply has not stated what the 'BUT' is which is leading to speculation, uncertainty and assumptions. It could be health, Ollie, control, in-fighting, depression, etc... Who knows?

Nonetheless, this drama certainly does not help stabilize our program in its most significant situation that I can remember in UConn Men's bball history.
 
Joined
Aug 29, 2011
Messages
12,887
Reaction Score
21,541
Gutheridge

Then Doherty
They sucked under Matt Doherty...Under Gutheridge not so much...2 Final Fours in 3 years might suck by some standards...not any reasonable people's views though. Actually Doherty is an example of "keeping it in the family" rahter than going after the best coach out there. Instead of getting the best coach available, they got the best UNC grad available (after Ol' Roy decided to stay at Kansas)...He had been a head coach for 1 season, had modest success 18-14 Regular season then a run to the NIT Finals, but as everyone knows the NIT is sort of unpredictable since you often have teams that don't want to be there as well as some mid-majors. While he had bill Gutheridge's players he did ok. when he recruited his own he was over his head.
 
Joined
Aug 27, 2011
Messages
301
Reaction Score
248
If Calhoun waits until August or later to retire there is a much better chance of Ollie being the head coach for at least a season. If that is what Calhoun wants, maybe that is what he is trying to do. It would be a very Calhoun thing to do and ensure he is the one who has the biggest say in who the next head coach is (albeit covertly). I don't agree with it, but maybe that is what he is doing or will do in the future. It would be hard to attract another coach that close to the start of the season.
 
Joined
Aug 24, 2011
Messages
3,029
Reaction Score
3,726
They sucked under Matt Doherty...Under Gutheridge not so much...2 Final Fours in 3 years might suck by some standards...not any reasonable people's views though. Actually Doherty is an example of "keeping it in the family" rahter than going after the best coach out there. Instead of getting the best coach available, they got the best UNC grad available (after Ol' Roy decided to stay at Kansas)...He had been a head coach for 1 season, had modest success 18-14 Regular season then a run to the NIT Finals, but as everyone knows the NIT is sort of unpredictable since you often have teams that don't want to be there as well as some mid-majors. While he had bill Gutheridge's players he did ok. when he recruited his own he was over his head.

The funny thing is that Roy actually won a National Championship with Doherty's players, whereas Doherty was going to the NIT with them.
 

CL82

NCAA Men’s Basketball National Champions - Again!
Joined
Aug 24, 2011
Messages
59,420
Reaction Score
222,086
Calhoun has 'earned' the right to retire when he pleases...within reason. He has not earned the right to hold the program hostage to a time frame that is not in its best interest nor has he earned the right to designate his successor.

This.

I think Calhoun successfully used the "well maybe I will, maybe I won't" approach to have a hard look taken at Hathaway. It was shrewd approach that ultimately benefitted the university. It is unfair to keep using it, however, particularly when the program has so unstable.

I stand behind the statement that Calhoun has "earned" the right to decide when he'll retire, so long as he's in good health and actively pursuing the program's best interests. The annual retirement threat isn't in the program's best interest.

Manuel needs to set a time for Jim to make up his mind, while stating that he fully hopes that Jim will return. No threats, no disrespect but a clean time table for a decision. Then he should let Jim know that the party line from here on out is "Of course, I'm staying", until he has a retirement announcement. The "we'll see" crap needs to stop.
 
Status
Not open for further replies.

Online statistics

Members online
72
Guests online
1,858
Total visitors
1,930

Forum statistics

Threads
159,811
Messages
4,206,196
Members
10,077
Latest member
Mpjd2024


.
Top Bottom