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DefenseBB said:
Hey there, name calling is unnecessary! you have been on this forum long enough to know how to comport your answers if you disagree with another poster and your name calling raises questions to me about your own logic. Iowa does not have the depth that Michigan or even DePaul does. Iowa has to rely on Clark AND Cizano and while Michigan does lean on Naz a fair amount, but they have Brown, Kiser, Nolan and now Dill who was their starting point guard before the injuries is back and contributing.
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Ok DefenseBigBoob
 
Caitlin is a generational player and Lisa Bluder (coach) should have scoured the players in the Portal last year and gotten more support for her. The three freshmen Iowa signed are providing very little support for Caitlin. Next years recruiting class doesn't appear to provide much support for Caitlin either. Lisa will have another opportunity at the end of this year to get Caitlin more support. Not saying that Caitlin and Iowa can't make the Final 4, but its not looking likely.
 
Wbbfan1 said:
Caitlin is a generational player and Lisa Bluder (coach) should have scoured the players in the Portal last year and gotten more support for her. The three freshmen Iowa signed are providing very little support for Caitlin. Next years recruiting class doesn't appear to provide much support for Caitlin either. Lisa will have another opportunity at the end of this year to get Caitlin more support. Not saying that Caitlin and Iowa can't make the Final 4, but its not looking likely.
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Their 2022 class are all in the top 100
 
CONN78SEJ said:
Definitely agree, they will be a tough out for anyone. Does anyone know the last time someone scored around 46 points in one game? I think Maya came close to that a couple of times.
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Nykesha Sales, 1997, against Stanford, 46 exactly.
 
cancontent said:
Fans are going to be fans unfortunately. Social media has amplified things beyond what we're used to seeing even a decade ago. And to your point about having no say, its likely these are casual fans who don't understand the voting process.

From the SC fans' perspective, I take it as they believe Boston is being slighted with all the recent attention on Clark after her last few games. I recall seeing similar comments last year when NPOY was being discussed and Paige was the frontrunner.

At the same time, some may be looking at it through a "bias" view because that comes up a lot too. Ranging from the "UConn bias" tripe to white players over black. It's sad that people do, but fans see what they want to see that fits their narrative.
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SCar Twitter tends to be pretty resentful of UConn with sometimes good reason and has if anything built up Clark in comparison to Bueckers in my experience.

I hadn't noticed anyone really taking jabs at Clark's performance. Thought I was kind of alone in doing that and my point is that it's kind of patronizing to the sport to have the big news for a couple of news cycles be Good player makes some trick shots in blowout loss -- finally something interesting to talk about.

I'm not as cranky about it as it might seem though. I like Clark a lot.
 
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DefenseBB said:
OMG, why can't anyone compliment and like another player without posters feel like another player is being disrespected?

Caitlin Clark is a phenomenal player. Nothing in her game screams selfish. Other than her current pedestrian 3 pt shooting percentage of 30.1%, all her other stats are awesome. To wit:
  • She's averaging 27.4 pts per game
  • Shoots 45.7 percent from the floor
  • She averages 7.2 free throws per game
  • She makes 89.4% of her FT
  • She averages 8.2 rebounds a game AS A GUARD.
  • She averages 1.3 steals per game
  • And she leads the country at 8.2 assists per game. How is any of this selfish?

Liking Caitlin Clark does not diminish Paige Bueckers in the least. It does not mean Paige is less than Clark just because you say a positive comment about Clark. She is very exciting to watch and she operates within an up- tempo style of play, creating many more opportunities than most other teams. Lisa Bluder has done a very good job at Iowa and her recruiting is getting better. Iowa is challenged on the defensive side of the ball, including Ms. Clark who has room for improvement. But the same could be said for any other POY candidate who has some weakness.

All in all, I really like watching Caitlin play more than any other player on any other team other than UCONN. Anyone who doesn't see how good Caitlin is, is either just being a fanatic of their team or is not really understanding how her game and the system she operates within is structured. She is worthy of all the accolades and press she gets. Stop feeling other UConn players or past UConn greats are slighted by complimenting this fine young player.

Rant over, continue as you were.
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the same reason when an irish player or a Tenn player does well people jump like sharks. I remember one game during the season me and a couple were impressed by Citron's play and how she's impressing us for being a freshman and a couple users saying "what has she done" "what has she won" Diana Taurasi was more impressive than her as a freshman. Just people who are bitter and don't want anyone that isn't Uconn related to have success.
 
letsgogirls said:
I mean...close. 45, 76, & 89
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Lol, jk. Seriously, we had a thread on our board about who Nika reminded us of, and I said Kiersten Walters who played here over 20 years ago. Her playing style was very similar to Nika’s. With respect to Clark, the former player that reminds me of her, it has to be Abby Waner, who went to Duke after almost coming to UConn. Looks wise the resemblance is unreal, almost like twin sisters, although IIRC Clark is slightly taller.
 
Wbbfan1 said:
Caitlin is a generational player and Lisa Bluder (coach) should have scoured the players in the Portal last year and gotten more support for her. The three freshmen Iowa signed are providing very little support for Caitlin. Next years recruiting class doesn't appear to provide much support for Caitlin either. Lisa will have another opportunity at the end of this year to get Caitlin more support. Not saying that Caitlin and Iowa can't make the Final 4, but its not looking likely.
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Iowa has some 'nice' support players, but there's a difference between being a 5'11" support player and an athletic 6'2" support player. Almost all athletic programs at Iowa have been developmental: get decent players that fit and then develop them over 3-4 years. Not saying it won't happen, but I'd be surprised if they come up with a real contributor through the portal.
 
Moogs said:
This is a year ago but Dawn Staley appears to be a fan.

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Dawn is, and reiterated she's still a fan while answering a question about NPOY in her presser yesterday.
 
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JDuro said:
Dawn is, and reiterated she's still a fan while answering a question about NPOY in her presser yesterday.
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She even gave Caitlin the Dawn Staley Award last season too.
 
CONN78SEJ said:
Definitely agree, they will be a tough out for anyone. Does anyone know the last time someone scored around 46 points in one game? I think Maya came close to that a couple of times.
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Naz Hillmon scored 50 against Ohio State last year.
 
Bjbod said:
Iowa has some 'nice' support players, but there's a difference between being a 5'11" support player and an athletic 6'2" support player. Almost all athletic programs at Iowa have been developmental: get decent players that fit and then develop them over 3-4 years. Not saying it won't happen, but I'd be surprised if they come up with a real contributor through the portal.
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This is what I love about Coach Bluder, her ability to develop the talent that she is able to recruit to Iowa. Twenty-one or twenty-two years at Iowa and she has built a solid program without that top tier level of talent, minus Megan Gustafson and Catilin Clark. But over the years, Coach Bluder has developed shooters and players basketball IQ. Heck they are always in the tournament; WNIT or NCAA.
 
JellyBean said:
This is what I love about Coach Bluder, her ability to develop the talent that she is able to recruit to Iowa. Twenty-one or twenty-two years at Iowa and she has built a solid program without that top tier level of talent, minus Megan Gustafson and Catilin Clark. But over the years, Coach Bluder has developed shooters and players basketball IQ. Heck they are always in the tournament; WNIT or NCAA.
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It should be noted that Clark is really AFAIK her first blue-chip recruit. Gustafson was completely under the radar coming out of high school, somewhere around #80 per ESPN. Credit is due to Bluder and post coach Jan Jensen for helping her develop. Gustafson went from virtual unknown to NPOY and led Iowa to the Elite 8 her senior year.
 
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Plebe said:
It should be noted that Clark is really AFAIK her first blue-chip recruit. Gustafson was completely under the radar coming out of high school, somewhere around #80 per ESPN. Credit is due to Bluder and post coach Jan Jensen for helping her develop. Gustafson went from virtual unknown to NPOY and led Iowa to the Elite 8 her senior year.
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x1000. The potential was there from the beginning, but Gustafson only became what she became with hard work and fantastic developmental coaching. And that's why she is so beloved by the Iowa fan base.
 
Plebe said:
It should be noted that Clark is really AFAIK her first blue-chip recruit. Gustafson was completely under the radar coming out of high school, somewhere around #80 per ESPN. Credit is due to Bluder and post coach Jan Jensen for helping her develop. Gustafson went from virtual unknown to NPOY and led Iowa to the Elite 8 her senior year.
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Sam Logic in 2011 was pretty highly rated (no. 10–15 depending on the serivce) out of Wisconsin.

Obviously, not at the level of Caitlin Clark. She was recruited by Stanford, Marquette, Kansas, Cal (2011 version), DePaul, and Vanderbilt. She was able to do a lot. She was almost Caitlin Clark/Sabrina Ioncescu light before they were even in Middle School. Had 6 career triple-doubles. When she graduated from Iowa, she was the only player in NCAA history to average 1500 pts, 800 rebounds, 800 assists, and 200 steals. Her final two seasons she was third in the nation in assists per game ~8.2.

Iowa made it to the Big Ten tournament championship game her Junior year and then were second in the season standings here senior year. But all the other years they were either 4th or 5th. I think the best they did in the NCAA's were a loss in the sweet sixteen? I wonder if Clark will have better team results than Logic.
 
Yet inexplicably some on here want Bluder gone. Look Jennie B did a great job at Drake and is doing wonders in her 1st year at OU but given the money OU could throw at her and the fact Bluder built the Iowa program, no way does Jen leave OU unless she fails colossally in the SEC and when Bluder does retire, she could rebrand at her Alma mater.
 
DefenseBB said:
Yet inexplicably some on here want Bluder gone. Look Jennie B did a great job at Drake and is doing wonders in her 1st year at OU but given the money OU could throw at her and the fact Bluder built the Iowa program, no way does Jen leave OU unless she fails colossally in the SEC and when Bluder does retire, she could rebrand at her Alma mater.
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I also don't get this. She's been consistent. Head scratcher.
 
She wasn't that highly rated by the services, but Kathleen Doyle was Ms. Illinois her senior year (2016). For those who can remember, she was supposed to attend Nebraska but was granted a reopening with the whole Connie Yori (not Yow, thank you DefenseBB) imbroglio. She then chose Iowa over Wisconsin, if memory holds.

Doyle made the All-B1G Frosh list and then teamed up with Megan Gustafson, which may have helped set the plate for Caitlin Clark's recruitment. Her senior year, she was named B1G Player of the Year. Feisty guard.

As for Bluder, she does well with what she recruits and gets them to play better (as noted, kudos to Jan Jensen on the posts, plus the recruiting of Clark). Has a pretty darn good retention rate, too. Don't know how anyone could do all that much better.
 
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Dillon77 said:
She wasn't that highly rated by the services, but Kathleen Doyle was Ms. Illinois her senior year (2016). For those who can remember, she was supposed to attend Nebraska but was granted a reopening with the whole Connie Yow imbroglio. She then chose Iowa over Wisconsin, if memory holds.

Doyle made the All-B1G Frosh list and then teamed up with Megan Gustafson, which may have helped set the plate for Caitlin Clark's recruitment. Her senior year, she was named B1G Player of the Year. Feisty guard.

As for Bluder, she does well with what she recruits and gets them to play better (as noted, kudos to Jan Jensen on the posts, plus the recruiting of Clark). Has a pretty darn good retention rate, too. Don't know how anyone could do all that much better.
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Um, you may mean Connie Yori at Nebraska.
 
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DefenseBB said:
Um, you may mean Connie Yori at Nebraska.
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Thanks, BB....off two letters. My apologies, but with my daughter coming to visit (as I was posting this) I didn't have a chance to proofread and fact check. Pretty sure you knew whom I meant. ;)
 
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