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sawxfan23 said:
Yes , but she also had coaching instability at Georgetown as well and in my opinion thats what led to her leaving. I don't care how fast a riser UConn is academically it is not going to catch UVA in the 4 remaining years that Butler has left in college.
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SAWX; very difficult, except when considering the extremes at either end, to say one college is better than another. Neither of these two is toward the extremes overall.
 
ARTI - you lost me on that one. Maybe you were talking about the cymbal hitting my toe?

I was thinking about the Butler decision this morning, and about how wonderful a region New England is.....and how Storrs is situated just between Boston and New York. She might want to broader her horizons when picking her next college.
 
winlots said:
SAWX; very difficult, except when considering the extremes at either end, to say one college is better than another. Neither of these two is toward the extremes overall.
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UVA is rated the #2 Public School by U.S. News and World Report Rankings. That is pretty extreme isn't it?
 
Natalie Butler will commit to Uconn tomorrow or in the near future because:
1) If academics were really, really the driving force I don't believe she would have left Georgetown
2) It's widely known the she and her father highly value the basketball component of the college experience
3)The last two years she has witnessed what the Uconn women's BB program is all about
4)Last week she took the time to visit UC and meet/hangout with players coaches
5)It's just the right thing to do!!!
 
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sawxfan23 said:
UVA is rated the #2 Public School by U.S. News and World Report Rankings. That is pretty extreme isn't it?
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And UConn is the #1 public school in New England. I think the overall rankings, not the public school rankings, are more relevant. But Natalie will choose based on a multiplicity of factors.
 
sawxfan23 said:
UVA is rated the #2 Public School by U.S. News and World Report Rankings. That is pretty extreme isn't it?
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sawx: gotta go with ya on that one. Surprising. And impressive. That said, I don't think going there will have a whit more impact on her future than attending UCONN.....probably less, would be my guess.....
 
HuskyPhan said:
Natalie Butler will commit to Uconn tomorrow or in the near future because:
1) If academics were really, really the driving force I don't believe she would have left Georgetown
2) It's widely known the she and her father highly value the basketball component of the college experience
3)The last two years she has witnessed what the Uconn women's BB program is all about
4)Last week she took the time to visit UC and meet/hangout with players coaches
5)It's just the right thing to do!!!
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HUSK: nothing but smiles on your #5. If you're a mom, Happy Mothers Day.....if you aren't , and you are fortunate enough to have one, wish here HMD for me. SAWX: same to you re the mother part.
 
MilfordHusky said:
And UConn is the #1 public school in New England. I think the overall rankings, not the public school rankings, are more relevant. But Natalie will choose based on a multiplicity of factors.
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milford...anyone who can weave the word "multiplicity" into a BY thread is the winner in my book....;) Happy Mom's Day to all you mothers out there...
Go Huskies..!!
 
We as fans can state the reasons why Natalie should go to UCONN, but in the end all that matters is her reasons for picking one institution over another. If she picks UCONN I wish her the best of luck, if not I still wish her the best of luck.
 
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ODDS AT THE CLUBHOUSE TURN: looks like about 11-2 UCONN.....some 80% at this point. I'm surprised at that margin.

Another interesting observation that might bode very well for us: HuskyPHAN:cool: has predicted Huskies. Whereas, HuskyNUT:confused: has gone with the Cavaliers. Playing a bit of "what's in a name," I gotta go with a PHAN in a sports situation of this sort. ;)
Could be the clincher??:)
 
As is always the case, those who know aren't talking and those who are talking don't know.

If academics and geography are most important, it's likely UVa. If the opportunity to win championships and be developed as a player are most important, we will welcome her.

And if none of these factors is important, she may just take up volleyball locally.
 
sawxfan23 said:
UVA is rated the #2 Public School by U.S. News and World Report Rankings. That is pretty extreme isn't it?
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No. Not unless you think there's some magic in "public" school for a player making a college choice.

No magic in U.S. News either, but going with that, out of approximately 275 "national universities" (public and private) UVA is ranked #23 and UConn #57. Not an extreme difference, and getting smaller.

UConn is well-regarded academically and rising. UVA is higher ranked and not rising (lost a little ground, actually, since the 90s).

To say UConn isn't rising fast enough to catch UVA in the next four years is to exalt (a) precise (b) overall (and not course of study) (c) rankings from one source, (d) as some kind of horse race.

UVA by a length in the U.S. News Derby . . . UConn moving up on the outside . . . can it catch UVA by graduation day? (And what good would that do?)

Wait a minute, how about the other horse race (mixing metaphors severely, indeed beyond redemption) -- the Best Basketball Derby?

UConn out in front by 83 lengths . . .are these horses in the same race? . . . UConn pulling away, if that's the right term, even further . . .

Frankly, these debates about how young players "should" think, when we have no clue (or only the faintest clue) what they're actually thinking, are kind of bothersome, even when the argument is for UConn rather than one that sounds curiously like something from the other school's recruiting staff.
 
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JS said:
Frankly, these debates about how young players "should" think, when we have no clue (or only the faintest clue) what they're actually thinking, are kind of bothersome, even when the argument is for UConn rather than one that sounds curiously like something from the other school's recruiting staff.
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weird huh... one type of prediction that I don't get into
 
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My latest prediction:

The Boneyard will get antsy today because there will be no announcement. Ideally, Natalie would have announced after final exams and the weekend, that is, today. But we know that her coach is pushing UConn, and we hear that her parents are pushing Virginia. I think she'll decide when a consensus develops, probably this month, but not today.
 
itsasport said:
You're right. There were three brigades in his division. I think all three brigade commanders were KIA.
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Armistead and Garnett were KIA. Kemper was wounded and captured. Then rescued and subsequently captured again. Eventually involved in a prisoner exchange but did not participate in the war after Gettysburg.

If VA and UCONN were to play it would probably end up a disaster like Pickett's Charge. ;)
 
JS said:
No. Not unless you think there's some magic in "public" school for a player making a college choice.

No magic in U.S. News either, but going with that, out of approximately 275 "national universities" (public and private) UVA is ranked #23 and UConn #57. Not an extreme difference, and getting smaller.

UConn is well-regarded academically and rising. UVA is higher ranked and not rising (lost a little ground, actually, since the 90s).

To say UConn isn't rising fast enough to catch UVA in the next four years is to exalt (a) precise (b) overall (and not course of study) (c) rankings from one source, (d) as some as some kind of horse race.

UVA by a length in the U.S. News Derby . . . UConn moving up on the outside . . . can it catch UVA by graduation day? (And what good would that do?)

Wait a minute, how about the other horse race (mixing metaphors severely, indeed beyond redemption) -- the Best Basketball Derby?

UConn out in front by 83 lengths . . .are these horses in the same race? . . . UConn pulling away, if that's the right term, even further . . .

Frankly, these debates about how young players "should" think, when we have no clue (or only the faintest clue) what they're actually thinking, are kind of bothersome, even when the argument is for UConn rather than one that sounds curiously like something from the other school's recruiting staff.
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JS: strong and interesting post from a top flight moderator. For the record: I'm not opposed to "shoulds" in life, let alone in sports talk ("He shoulda thrown to the cut-off man"); but this threads introduction was not about "shoulds" but rather about "what might happen and why." Not at all sure you were addressing me, but wanted to clarify my intent.

MIL: wow.....that's a sturdy prediction alright. Surprising "what might happen" for sure.
 
Obviously basketball is important to her or she wouldn't have left Georgetown.....The same thought process may hold true for signing with VA. Great academic rep but hasn't been a Conference winner or a regular NCAA Tournament participant in a few years either.

IMHO, VA might offer the same things as Georgetown. Good academic rep but no Conference crowns or deep runs in the NCAA's. UConn would appear to offer a good and clear solution and balance to this dilema. A good school with a great basketball history and a rep for winning Conference Championships and making DEEP NCAA runs winning Nine(9) Champioships.

I hope she chooses to balance her college career with a good education and competing for Championships each of her remaining 3 eligible years.

UCONN offers that balance.
 
If her desire is to reach her full potential as a person, and player, the best choice is UConn.
 
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For the clock watchers, it's 4:30 and we don't know yet.

My interpretation is that it is not an easy decision and there may be differing opinions within the family. Natalie should take her time and decide when she's ready. It's an easy decision for us, but we're not in her shoes.
 
baggerbob said:
If her desire is to reach her full potential as a person, and player, the best choice is UConn.
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How in heck do you know this? I bet you have never met this person, have never seen her play, and you do not know her family or her personal history. Yet you tell her what her best choice is...
 
MilfordHusky said:
For the clock watchers, it's 4:30 and we don't know yet.

My interpretation is that it is not an easy decision and there may be differing opinions within the family. Natalie should take her time and decide when she's ready. It's an easy decision for us, but we're not in her shoes.
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MIL: very well said, as usual. But clock watchers? CLOCK watchers??? Yarders??? At a moment like this? Nahhhhh.
Actually I didn't know a time had been indicated. Busy outside anyway.
Looks like you made a great call in your earlier post about today not being the day.............birdies in your ear? Hunch? Uncanny prescience?
 
winlots said:
MIL: very well said, as usual. But clock watchers? CLOCK watchers??? Yarders??? At a moment like this? Nahhhhh.
Actually I didn't know a time had been indicated. Busy outside anyway.
Looks like you made a great call in your earlier post about today not being the day...birdies in your ear? Hunch? Uncanny prescience?
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Doc, as "The Voice of Reason," I just reasoned it out. :)

Seriously, it sounded as if there were differing opinions that needed to be resolved. I could be very wrong. We'll see.
 
sawxfan23 said:
Yes , but she also had coaching instability at Georgetown as well and in my opinion thats what led to her leaving. I don't care how fast a riser UConn is academically it is not going to catch UVA in the 4 remaining years that Butler has left in college.
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When my son was a senior in high school, the director of the school told the students not to get into a tizzy about their college choice. He said good students would get a great education even at a so-so college and poor students would get a so-so education even if they were accepted at a great college. In other words, it's the student not the college that makes a difference. Perhaps Butler will choose UVa. But she can get a great education at UConn if she's a motivated student, which I believe she is.
 
rbny1 said:
When my son was a senior in high school, the director of the school told the students not to get into a tizzy about their college choice. He said good students would get a great education even at a so-so college and poor students would get a so-so education even if they were accepted at a great college. In other words, it's the student not the college that makes a difference. Perhaps Butler will choose UVa. But she can get a great education at UConn if she's a motivated student, which I believe she is.
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I spent a lot of time with my sons researching and visiting schools, partly as an over-reaction to my own situation decades earlier. I also was an alumnus interviewer for Brown. There are/were 2 major fallacies: (1) there is 1 perfect place for a student. Nope, some are better fits than others, and there are trade-offs, but perfection is unattainable. (2) All schools are the same, so it doesn't matter where you go. Nope, again, some will be better for a given person--the size, location, weather, course offerings, academic rigor, athletics, etc. vary, and a student needs to choose a school with characteristics to his or her liking. It's important to be in a good (not perfect) place for those wonderful years.
 
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