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Butler Postgame Thread

Some thoughts on the Butler game:
  • Great to see UConn WBB play at Hinkle Fieldhouse, a National Historic Landmark, formerly known as Butler Fieldhouse. Built in 1928, it was the largest arena in the US until 1950. I half expected to see Jimmy Chitwood hit a jumper from the top of the key.
  • Excellent ball movement and hot shooting from the arc by both teams. Ultimately, Butler could not keep pace with UConn.
  • Paige didn’t waste much time breaking Pam Webber & Renee Montgomery’s freshman assist record with 9 first half assists, and now 130 in just 21 games. For good measure, Paige broke the UConn single game record with 14 assists.
  • Really nice to see Evina start knocking down 3’s again, and Nika, Christyn & Paige continue to do so. These Huskies may yet force Geno eat his words about them being a “bad shooting team.”
  • Butler had no real answers for Liv & Aaliyah in the paint. Aaliyah in particular owned the paint.
A.Edwards may just be evolving into a super star of the Paige B level. Her accuracy at the foul line also suggests that she will be proficient, shooting the 12-16 footers. When she does that, she will be an unstoppable weapon.
 
I’ll agree as soon as I hear the technical explanation on Ono. They missed that one completely. No excuses

other than that, I agree!
It had to be something she said in reference to a call that was made or one that wasn’t. It may have been something Geno nor the producers wanted Meghan or Alan to repeat.
 
It had to be something she said in reference to a call that was made or one that wasn’t. It may have been something Geno nor the producers wanted Meghan or Alan to repeat.
That's what I was thinking. ONO said something like "it's about time" and got T'd up. We'll never know because the media won't ask about it.
 
Boston played well few years ago in the USA team. I just think that SC doesnt put her play in the right way. Maybe SC gives more attention to their PG/SG and diminish Boston's role.
Last year she had Harris and Harrigan to get her the ball. This year the guards seem to be playing for themselves.
 
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till this season i thought that DT was the best passer ever at UConn (not only the number of assists but the type, speed and complexity of assists). Well now, IMO Paige is the best passer in UConn history. Her ability to throw passes on the move with one hand from one side of the court to the other side of the court and have it get exactly to the hands of the other player is beyond remarkable, it's magical! there is practically no pass that Paige can't make and all with split second decisions. For someone who loves passing and hates one on one basketball, this kid have been a revelation!
 
till this season i thought that DT was the best passer ever at UConn (not only the number of assists but the type, speed and complexity of assists). Well now, IMO Paige is the best passer in UConn history. Her ability to throw passes on the move with one hand from one side of the court to the other side of the court and have it get exactly to the hands of the other player is beyond remarkable, it's magical! there is practically no pass that Paige can't make and all with split second decisions. For someone who loves passing and hates one on one basketball, this kid have been a revelation!
I put this in the play of the game thread but this is the moment she released the pass to Evina for the layup. When she committed to the pass, EW was still at the three point line starting her cut. So Paige sees it develop, looks at CW on the wing to freeze the defense, and whips it into the seam. Hard to explain how difficult it is to process all that so quickly. If she looks at EW for any amount of time, the player at the bottom of the zone and the player guarding Edwards probably both jump the passing lane, but she looks everyone away at the right moment and is still able to put it on the money.

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Everybody saves their best game for UCONN. Great game ladies fun to watch.
 
That's what I was thinking. ONO said something like "it's about time" and got T'd up. We'll never know because the media won't ask about it.
If you say that to most refs, they will T you up.!!! ;)
 
I put this in the play of the game thread but this is the moment she released the pass to Evina for the layup. When she committed to the pass, EW was still at the three point line starting her cut. So Paige sees it develop, looks at CW on the wing to freeze the defense, and whips it into the seam. Hard to explain how difficult it is to process all that so quickly. If she looks at EW for any amount of time, the player at the bottom of the zone and the player guarding Edwards probably both jump the passing lane, but she looks everyone away at the right moment and is still able to put it on the money.

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Ya, this pass is really impressive.
 
I just watched the replay and focused on Liv's Technical. Liv got a defensive rebound and was harassed by 3 Butler payers. The ref called a foul and stopped the play. I didn't see Liv throw any elbows or anything physical. My guess is that she said something because about 3 seconds after the play was stopped, another whistle was blown and the T was called.

Maybe someone with more basketball rule knowledge can watch and shed some light. I was disappointed when no-one asked Geno about it after the game.
Butler players had been mauling her all game so I suspect when they finally called a foul she probably said something like about "expletive" time and they T'd her up... Refs should have been doing their job calling fouls instead of giving Liv a Technical in my opinion.
 
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Boston can’t run the floor like Edwards, but Edwards can’t block shots like Boston. One is a classic PF while the other is a classic center. Apples and Oranges.
Probably true but I need an explanation why Boston is listed as a forward in ESPN.com.
 
Probably true but I need an explanation why Boston is listed as a forward in ESPN.com.
No one wants to be a center anymore... They all want to be forwards now just because they shoot a jump shot once or twice a game....
 
No one wants to be a center anymore... They all want to be forwards now just because they shoot a jump shot once or twice a game....
Well, since I don't know what position to designate Boston so as to have a conversation, let's just say that Boston would be smart, as their parallel careers progress, to be designated something different from Aaliyah.
 
So here’s a question for the BY. Is there another freshman PF in the country playing any better than Aaliyah right now?
Not that I know of. ;)
Is there any PF in the country playing any better right now? For the tournament, she needs to start.
I agree Jordy but Geno is protecting against foul trouble. (my guess) She was very prone but getting better. I see her needed for more minutes come tourney time.
That to me screams tired legs. Freshmen have more than just a new school, a new system and new teammates to figure out. The fact is most freshmen have poor sleeping habits, poor dietary habits and poor practice habits. Now I don't think Paige has poor practice habits at all, but I think she still has much to learn about how to care for her body, and to me, it's starting to show. That for me is very much a part of the freshmen wall.
Again I agree with the premise but doesn't CD cover all the listed above. She has gotten accolades for years as being the players watch dog on all things right down to travel attire.
It may have been something Geno nor the producers wanted Meghan or Alan to repeat.
Agree, as O took a pounding tonight she may have let out a bomb not directed at anyone, but they will "T" it up every time.
 
That play in the second half: Edwards rips the ball away, gets it out to Muhl and starts running. Muhl across to Paige who feeds the hustling Edwards for the lay-up. Culmo says "That's the future". No, that's the present. Our three best players.
 
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After this coming Monday's game, does anyone know the playoff schedule - dates and times? Thanks.
 
Maybe a couple of smaller details: 1) Aubrey is contributing big-time, even with 0 points. It says to me that she is comfortable in her role. Maybe the scoring won't come until next year. I can't remember a time that the offense stopped when she got the ball. She can score in transition and put-backs. 2) I'm finally happy with CW. She's happy and it shows in her play. She's not hesitating. See the interview with Nika after Creighton. Must watch TV. That defensive play was the defensive play of the game- swatted the shot and flicked it to a teammate. 3) I want Liv to play stronger. Make more plays. SC played her straight up and she did fine. The double teams thwart her. Some top-20 coaches saw that today.
Aubrey did contribute today the problem is she doesn't know the offense..I watched her twice turn her head around not knowing what to do or where to go..great athlete but her basketball skills(shooting..passing..and dribbling)are subpar
 
Actually, I think she played way better than Boston usually plays. Edwards is far more versatile, very fast down the court, and is infinitely better integrated in the team's offense than is Boston. I read that Edwards was a track star in high school. Not sure what event she did, but her runs down the court are truly impressive.

At the very least, national all freshman team. But she should be in the conversation for AA. This year!!
Edwards is not more versatile at this time, not offensively. How many times have you seen Edwards shoot a mid range or three point shot and hit it? Edwards is good enough that there is no need to embellish her talent. Boston does not hustle as much and seems to be out of shape but she is still an AA talent. Edwards seems to be well on her way but is not there yet. There are other freshmen forwards having outstanding seasons. See those listed by Coco.
 
Maybe a couple of smaller details: 1) Aubrey is contributing big-time, even with 0 points. It says to me that she is comfortable in her role. Maybe the scoring won't come until next year. I can't remember a time that the offense stopped when she got the ball. She can score in transition and put-backs. 2) I'm finally happy with CW. She's happy and it shows in her play. She's not hesitating. See the interview with Nika after Creighton. Must watch TV. That defensive play was the defensive play of the game- swatted the shot and flicked it to a teammate. 3) I want Liv to play stronger. Make more plays. SC played her straight up and she did fine. The double teams thwart her. Some top-20 coaches saw that today.
It is really not just about playing stronger per se; unfortunately, it seems the reflexive bringing the ball down seemingly imbedded in Ono‘s muscle memory makes her susceptible and somewhat defenseless against the double team. Every coach knows it, that’s why it is virtually a constant when she posts up.
 
Paige probably should have had close to 20 assists if her teammates made more shots. Also Paige should have scored 30+ points if she had normal shooting day. Paige is probably not satisfied with how she played today. 😊
I believe Paige is satisfied with the way she played based on her comments after the game. She was not satisfied with her shooting. Also, for those who are thinking she has hit the freshman wall, if that were true she would not continue to pass the ball the way she has continued to do or run the team the way she has. That wall takes away everything, imo.
 
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I would like to call for a moratorium on calling our freshmen freshmen. I proclaim that the modifier no longer applies.
Is there a PF in the country, possibly including WNBA, that can run the floor as well as Aaliyah? Maybe Pheesa?
How about future matchups with Aliyah? (maybe even later this year) Tell you what, "girlfriend" better get in shape.
Well okay, with the reservation that I'd like to call them freshman next year with the idea that we've got them for another three years. I mean, those terms are going to be a little soft for the next four or five years right?
 
I believe Paige is satisfied with the way she played based on her comments after the game. She was not satisfied with her shooting. Also, for those who are thinking she has hit the freshman wall, if that were true she would not continue to pass the ball the way she has continued to do or run the team the way she has. That wall takes away everything, imo.

Paige has already said in one of the post-game pressers from a few games back that she has hit the freshman wall, especially in practice when she finds herself mentally checked out, but she has adjusted to it after that.
 
Well okay, with the reservation that I'd like to call them freshman next year with the idea that we've got them for another three years. I mean, those terms are going to be a little soft for the next four or five years right?
Come on, Geno's already bad for WCBB.
 
Paige has already said in one of the post-game pressers from a few games back that she has hit the freshman wall, especially in practice when she finds herself mentally checked out, but she has adjusted to it after that.
She's a freshman. She doesn't know what she is talking about.:rolleyes:
 
Piath's spin move to a lefthand layup--She will get meaningful minutes next year. Few on the board agree with me but there is too much talent and size there to keep on the bench.
looks like plenty of people agree with you victor. I was just saying a couple games ago that she should get a few more minutes this year.
 
3 point defense disappeared

The vast majority of teams relying heavily on 3 point shooting that UCONN plays can't beat UCONN with 3 point shots. Sure, as a teaching experience you make adjustments (especially against particular players) but essentially you concentrate on your ongoing needs to develop your team. IOW (and drastically over-simplifying): let them shoot all the threes they want.

If a team that can't beat you shoots lights out at the start and keeps the game close, you may make some noise (as a motivator or as a teaching opportunity) but basically you don't care.
 
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