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kibblesnbits said:
This ^. Getting the BTN in NJ was a given from the day Rutgers was admitted. That doesn't mean that the BTN will get automatic coverage in the rest of the NY DMA just because it's available on the other side of the GWB. More importantly, it is far from a given that it will receive in league carriage rates north and east of Bergen County. No one, not even the self proclaimed experts seems to know the real terms of the deal so we should wait and see. They may actually work to UConn's advantage.
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Even moreso - the question was never really whether or not there would be BTN on NY/NJ cable systems - the bigger question has always been how much they'll pay to get it. Will it be "in market" pricing, or something between their normal in/out market?
 
Frank's fine. He just doesn't agree with the consensus opinions here. He has a right to be wrong ;), but brings a lot to the discussion, unlike some others I could name.
 
UConn9604 said:
I forget where, but I remember reading that Fairfield County constituted just 10% of the homes in the NYC DMA. Connecticut politicians end up wasting hundreds of thousands of dollars each election cycle because in order to reach Fairfield County homes via TV advertising, you have to pay to show your ads to the other 90%, too.

Granted, on average, it's a generally wealthy 10%, but it's about 10% nonetheless.

I think our value to a TV number-cruncher is that our fan base includes an untapped Top 30 market, 10% of the nation's largest TV market, plus slivers in Boston and Providence. Plus, we win stuff, too.
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30%, not 10%.
 
FDNY99 said:
What ever programming/Chanel lineup you get on Cablevision in Westchester is the same programming/Channel line-up you get in Fairfield County. The only difference is the News 12 coverage and news team. SNY has been included on the Cablevision channel line-up in Fairfield County since it's inception.
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A lineup is one thing. I don't care about that. It's the carriage fees that are different.

Are you telling me that New Yorkers are paying SNY $2.60+ a month because SNY added Uconn?
 
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UConn9604 said:
I forget where, but I remember reading that Fairfield County constituted just 10% of the homes in the NYC DMA. Connecticut politicians end up wasting hundreds of thousands of dollars each election cycle because in order to reach Fairfield County homes via TV advertising, you have to pay to show your ads to the other 90%, too.

Granted, on average, it's a generally wealthy 10%, but it's about 10% nonetheless.
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I've never purchased tv time in New York but in other markets you are able to geo target to specific area codes. When we buy from comcast in SF DMA they have something like 20 different zones. I'd assume NY is the same
 
UConn9604 said:
Actually, I think it might be less than 10%, although I can't find a source for that. Here is a map of it. Even if the NYC DMA included just Fairfield County and the five boroughs, Fairfield County wouldn't represent 30% of the total. Add in New Jersey and the number drops further.

http://www.newportmedia.com/maps/countyinfo.php?m=1
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I misread your post. I thought you had written 10% of the TV households in Connecticut.
 
upstater said:
I misread your post. I thought you had written 10% of the TV households in Connecticut.
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Right, I think that the State itself is cut in half -- half of the population is in Fairfield + New Haven, while the other six counties include the other half.

It's even more stark when you consider that Fairfield, New Haven and Hartford Counties have about the same population (Fairfield is biggest, then Hartford, followed by New Haven). 3/4 of the State's population, more or less, lives in those three counties, while the remaining quarter lives in the other five.
 
OkaForPrez said:
Please don't run off @frankthetank. I enjoy him posting here.
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Agreed.

And "Banning" screams "I have no balls." If you don't want to read a poster, ignore him as many seem to do for NelsonM or HFD back in the day. I often find humorous the contrarian views and even nonsensical dribble this place promotes from time to time.

Big Brother banning is for geldings and the otherwise insecure amongst us.
 
RMoore1999 said:
Agreed.

And "Banning" screams "I have no balls." If you don't want to read a poster, ignore him as many seem to do for NelsonM or HFD back in the day. I often find humorous the contrarian views and even nonsensical dribble this place promotes from time to time.

Big Brother banning is for geldings and the otherwise insecure amongst us.
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I'm pretty sure most people here aren't insecure about UConn and it's accomplishments.

I'm just sick of condescending view points from fans of inferior programs telling us what we need to do on our own board.
 
ConnHuskBask said:
I'm pretty sure most people here aren't insecure about UConn and it's accomplishments.

I'm just sick of condescending view points from fans of inferior programs telling us what we need to do on our own board.
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There is joe-fan and then there is Frank: a thoughtful, relatively unbiased CR analyst who has collected a wealth of information by being one of the few web beacons who didn't come into his quasi celebrity through wild rumor mongering.

If Frank has to set the expectations floor so be it we have plenty among us to set the ceiling.
 
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upstater said:
A lineup is one thing. I don't care about that. It's the carriage fees that are different.

Are you telling me that New Yorkers are paying SNY $2.60+ a month because SNY added Uconn?
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I have no idea....I actually have Verizon FIOS. I would be interested to see if they jacked up the price for customers in Fairfield County that already had SNY though.
 
FDNY99 said:
I have no idea....I actually have Verizon FIOS. I would be interested to see if they jacked up the price for customers in Fairfield County that already had SNY though.
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Yes, SNY was added to basic tier in Fairfield Cty and the sob rate jacked up when SNY added UConn. It wasn't on basic before that. All cable systems in Conn. have SNY on basic.
 
OkaForPrez said:
There is joe-fan and then there is Frank: a thoughtful, relatively unbiased CR analyst who has collected a wealth of information by being one of the few web beacons who didn't come into his quasi celebrity through wild rumor mongering.

If Frank has to set the expectations floor so be it we have plenty among us to set the ceiling.
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As if we don't already know what the floor is?

Football being banished to a second division?

Our tv deal paying us 10 percent of our local rivals?

That the ACC will never take us. We're an awful fit for the Big12. The B1G is a pipedream?

Thanks, but I'm good with what the floor entails. I don't need BC, Rutgers, Syracuse, ND, WVU, Oklahoma State and Illinois fans here to remind me.
 
OkaForPrez said:
There is joe-fan and then there is Frank: a thoughtful, relatively unbiased CR analyst who has collected a wealth of information by being one of the few web beacons who didn't come into his quasi celebrity through wild rumor mongering.

If Frank has to set the expectations floor so be it we have plenty among us to set the ceiling.
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Frank in the past has proved uninformed when it comes to
UConn. Hopefully his association with the BY has rectified this problem.
My problem with him is he comes from the Reactionary element of the B1G.
One or two post telling us about our unworthiness were sufficient for me.
After two of these posts,unless he is providing a different slant, he becomes a troll.
 
@AZHuskiePop @ConnHuskBask

I get it. I share your sensitivities. I've had more than one "I can't take it anymore" meltdown on various boards (Once on the Wisconsin Football board I believe and once on CSNBBS). And it's one thing when its elsewhere and another when its in our living room.

I don't want to hear it from TexanMark or ndfan2014 or anyone else who has picked and chosen which CR conventional wisdom best fits the need-scope of their school and passed it back to us like its courtroom substantiated law. UConn fans are probably the most motivated CR info consumers and therefore the most knowledgeable to every theory under the sun. We've seen every brand of contradictory speculation. It's about money, recruiting geography, football, academics, markets, travel budgets, glad handing from Jurich, TCU/Texas coffee talks, a personal vendetta from a 10 year old lawsuit, espn made it happen, espn didn't make it happen, ... Such is the life of the once insiders now outside looking in.

But @frankthetank is not here to wipe his feet on our carpet. If we disagree its civil and we learn from each other. He brings value. So while I've had my moments of wanting to wall up and keep everyone else out and have a collective pity party, that's not going to keep up current on the latest minutia. I'm still interested in adding to our CR cork board which is now equivalent to Carrie's terrorist hunt on homeland. I'd rather not burn up one of our field agents.

Respectfully, turn off his tap with your own filter, don't make him a martyr to our misery and ruin it for the rest of us who enjoy his company.
 
I was watching softball on BTN two weekends ago. I live in Ffld county and have Uverse u300 package.

FTT is one of the better outside posters to come here. Sure there was a period where he was consistently negative to UConn and it was hard to take but he was a net plus to the board, IMO. Good to see him back, really.
 
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upstater said:
That's the same link as above. It also mentions Comcast. But doesn't mention Manhattan other than the meeting occurring there.

What in the world are you guys reading?
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Upstater, you're reading the wrong article (NJ.com). Check out the third paragraph from the article on the BTN website link. Here's the exerpt: "(Mark Silverman) talked with them about some of our coverage plans...and also was able to confirm that deals with Time Warner and Cablevision for broader distribution in Manhattan have been completed."
 
Rappin'Rodney said:
Upstater, you're reading the wrong article (NJ.com). Check out the third paragraph from the article on the BTN website link. Here's the exerpt: "(Mark Silverman) talked with them about some of our coverage plans...and also was able to confirm that deals with Time Warner and Cablevision for broader distribution in Manhattan have been completed."
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Yes, but if the link to the NJ.com article was meant to provide proof of distribution in Manhattan, it doesn't even talk about it.
 
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UConn9604 said:
Actually, I think it might be less than 10%, although I can't find a source for that. Here is a map of it. Even if the NYC DMA included just Fairfield County and the five boroughs, Fairfield County wouldn't represent 30% of the total. Add in New Jersey and the number drops further.

http://www.newportmedia.com/maps/countyinfo.php?m=1
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From what I can tell, Fairfield county is a little less than 5%.
 
BTN getting on basic tier NYC could be what Dienhart (sp?) was refering to when he mentioned Delaney said we should expect big news from the east in the next 60 days.
 
Does broader distribution deals in Manhattan not make sense to anyone besides me?

Brooklyn, Queens, etc. ?

I'll admit it looks bad, but I've been on this board long enough I'll wait to hear the full story.
 
How is this so bad for UConn? Seriously. Was this not expected? I mean, who knows. Maybe the BTN got NYC distribution because the cable companies were told UConn will be included. Just saying.
 
It appears from a quick scan of cable company websites that BTN is currently on the top tiers in NYC. Even if these deals do include "wider distribution" east of the river, that does not mean they will suddenly be on basic at full in league rates. There is no way they are taking that margin hit without a fight. I'd bet on a lower tier in NYC at a rate that looks far closer to out of league than in league. What leverage does the Big 10 have? Wealthy and passionate Manhattan alums will pay, but with cord-cutting a real threat, they aren't going to force that extra cost on the price sensitive and those that just don't care. I'll bet they've hardly been inundated with a torrent of calls in the city for the BTN just because Rutgers was added.

Remember, these guys took on the Yankees, arguably the most valuable local sports property ever. They'd risk pissing off a few Rutgers fans in NJ any day before submitting to extortion on higher rates in NYC.
 
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Add in RCN for Manhattan and Queens:

With Rutgers set to officially join the conference in July, Big Ten Network continues to buttress its distribution roster in the New York DMA, as RCN will add the service to its lineup.

BTN officials said the deal, financial terms of which were not disclosed, will position the network on RCN’s signature and premium packages. RCN currently serves the New York City boroughs of Manhattan and Queens. RCN already carries BTN in its service areas in the Philadelphia, Chicago and Washington D.C. DMAs. The latter is also becoming a much more important market for the conference, which is also adding the University of Maryland to its ranks, also beginning with the 2014-15 academic year.

The RCN Big Apple agreement comes on the heels of BTN president Mark Silverman saying the service has scored accords that will widen its penetration on Cablevision and Time Warner Cable systems in the New York DMA. Whereas those MSOs have been offering BTN on their sports tiers, the new pacts will afford the network a wider berth.

- See more at: http://multichannel.com/news/distri...-joins-conference/374708#sthash.OgVWtMHk.dpuf
 
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