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Message: [QUOTE="Justavisitor, post: 2943558, member: 1442"] Mabrey appears to be out of shape right now and Turner's lacking lateral quickness. This does not bode well for good defense. Also, transition defense was not there. I'm guessing some of this is due to those two players and Geno exploited the lack of quickness by pushing hard in transition and also by using the dribble drive. Now that this has been exposed, what other teams can exploit it? This will be interesting to see, as Notre Dame's offense is not the same as it was last season. There is an obvious lack of ball movement in the offense. Maybe getting by without a point guard last season was masked by the play of Westbeld. [/QUOTE]