Breanna Stewart is indeed the greatest of all time

[hoophuskee]

I have read a number of posts saying DT or Maya were better because Stewie has a better supporting cast. In my opinion Stewies supporting cast should be an argument in her favor and not against her. I can't imagine the fantastic numbers she would have both offensively and defensively if she was the "go to" player instead of just the best player. How many blocks would she have if MO wasn't cutting off the drivers, how many points if she wasn;t dishing off to MO or Morgan near the rim? I think Stewie is the greatest because of the team she in on.

Nah- PalPa you misunderstood. -- Here is one of the posts I made on this thread:

And I'm on the cusp of doing the unthinkable for me. It's the combination that is unthinkable and it being all in one year. It is JUST three games away and I'm giddy about that!! Super-Giddy!!!!!!!!!!!!!Putting Stewie as GOAT. MoJeff as Greatest PG. And The Great Morgan Tuck around 12 or so greatest Husky (I assume she is getting 1st team a/a?). AND the biggest of all- is to say this team, 15-16, is the greatest wcbb team I have ever seen.

For me though, they need to WIN,---- THIS YEAR for all of the above.

Nowhere am I saying who is better when it comes to Stewie vs the other two greats Maya and DT. My posts have been about disputing that RIGHT AT THIS MOMENT ON THIS THREAD the comments made implying/suggesting that it is a foregone conclusion that Stewie is GOAT. No way.

As I've mentioned ANYONE that puts DT ahead of Maya, or right there with Maya but maybe VERY slightly less, then they probably feel STATS DON"T TELL THE WHOLE STORY. --- Because Maya's stats are superior to DT -AND Maya's stats are right there with Stewie's. So for anyone that thinks that much of DT over Maya, then how can they not feel similar with DT vs Stewie when Stewie hasn't even finished her career yet? If Stewie lays an egg, why is it that we hear of DT's egg AS A FRESHMAN, but we would ignore Stewie's egg AS A SENIOR? IMO it is MUCH MUCH WORSE to lay an egg when you're the senior and such an overwhelming favorite player than it is when DT was a frosh. All I have said is I want to see this season is Stewie and the rest of this team close the deal. In summary, if you think DT is right there with Maya- and if Stewie doesn't win and she plays badly her senior year, who are you going to say has the greater "intangibles," DT or Stewie? SO how can it be a foregone conclusion Stewart is GOAT?

And as far as Maya vs Stewie why can't we say if the frosh Maya was part of last year's team UCONN still wins? And more than likely the Jr Stewie doesn't win in Maya's frosh year- not by scoring only 8 points or just having an EFG% of 50%. Because Maya had the same 50%EFG%. And certainly Maya's last game was equivalent to Stewie's frosh game in NCAA's. SO in summary of Maya vs Stewie when we look at stats, Maya has a slight edge overall imo.

You speak of Stewie might be better if you gave her more shots. I prefer efficiency rather than being a gunner. Maya not only averaged slightly more, her EFG% was slightly higher thus she is a more efficient scorer. Plus her assist to turnovers shows she was a more efficient passer. SO why should it be foregone conclusion that Stewie is superior? SHE MIGHT BE. I'm not 100% into stats. But the title of this thread makes it sound like Stewie is GOAT - no doubt. I say hold on buckaroooooooooo!!!!!!!!!!!!! Let me see what she does the next three games. And for the record, MoJeff is a super super super super player. IMO you should in no way discount what type of impact she has on her teammates including Stewie (and vice-versa). I think you are downplaying someone like MJ way too much. But if UCONN wins -ya more than likely. What I would admire big-time is that "she refused to allow a lesser team take her and her teammates down." I hold value in that.

 

[hoophuskee]

So, when they lost, badly, at full-strength?

Not so relevant. We've seen many times teams lose at full strength or even UONN that year won at 60% starter's strength in one game. teams can overcome their November defeat.

 

[Sonny44]

This is painful to try to pick the best among so many greats-

Agree, just a fun way to waste some time. Beauty is in the eye of the beholder.

 

[Wally East]

Not so relevant. We've seen many times teams lose at full strength or even UONN that year won at 60% starter's strength in one game. teams can overcome their November defeat.

Greatest teams of all time don't lose at full strength. Otherwise, by definition, they're not the greatest team of all time

 

[PalPa]

Nah- PalPa you misunderstood. -- Here is one of the posts I made on this thread:

And I'm on the cusp of doing the unthinkable for me. It's the combination that is unthinkable and it being all in one year. It is JUST three games away and I'm giddy about that!! Super-Giddy!!!!!!!!!!!!!Putting Stewie as GOAT. MoJeff as Greatest PG. And The Great Morgan Tuck around 12 or so greatest Husky (I assume she is getting 1st team a/a?). AND the biggest of all- is to say this team, 15-16, is the greatest wcbb team I have ever seen.

For me though, they need to WIN,---- THIS YEAR for all of the above.

Nowhere am I saying who is better when it comes to Stewie vs the other two greats Maya and DT. My posts have been about disputing that RIGHT AT THIS MOMENT ON THIS THREAD the comments made implying/suggesting that it is a foregone conclusion that Stewie is GOAT. No way.

As I've mentioned ANYONE that puts DT ahead of Maya, or right there with Maya but maybe VERY slightly less, then they probably feel STATS DON"T TELL THE WHOLE STORY. --- Because Maya's stats are superior to DT -AND Maya's stats are right there with Stewie's. So for anyone that thinks that much of DT over Maya, then how can they not feel similar with DT vs Stewie when Stewie hasn't even finished her career yet? If Stewie lays an egg, why is it that we hear of DT's egg AS A FRESHMAN, but we would ignore Stewie's egg AS A SENIOR? IMO it is MUCH MUCH WORSE to lay an egg when you're the senior and such an overwhelming favorite player than it is when DT was a frosh. All I have said is I want to see this season is Stewie and the rest of this team close the deal. In summary, if you think DT is right there with Maya- and if Stewie doesn't win and she plays badly her senior year, who are you going to say has the greater "intangibles," DT or Stewie? SO how can it be a foregone conclusion Stewart is GOAT?

And as far as Maya vs Stewie why can't we say if the frosh Maya was part of last year's team UCONN still wins? And more than likely the Jr Stewie doesn't win in Maya's frosh year- not by scoring only 8 points or just having an EFG% of 50%. Because Maya had the same 50%EFG%. And certainly Maya's last game was equivalent to Stewie's frosh game in NCAA's. SO in summary of Maya vs Stewie when we look at stats, Maya has a slight edge overall imo.

You speak of Stewie might be better if you gave her more shots. I prefer efficiency rather than being a gunner. Maya not only averaged slightly more, her EFG% was slightly higher thus she is a more efficient scorer. Plus her assist to turnovers shows she was a more efficient passer. SO why should it be foregone conclusion that Stewie is superior? SHE MIGHT BE. I'm not 100% into stats. But the title of this thread makes it sound like Stewie is GOAT - no doubt. I say hold on buckaroooooooooo!!!!!!!!!!!!! Let me see what she does the next three games. And for the record, MoJeff is a super super super super player. IMO you should in no way discount what type of impact she has on her teammates including Stewie (and vice-versa). I think you are downplaying someone like MJ way too much. But if UCONN wins -ya more than likely. What I would admire big-time is that "she refused to allow a lesser team take her and her teammates down." I hold value in that.

You are too sensitive. There were other posters saying the same thing and I did not single out any one. My point was that a players greatness cannot be judged because of their teammates. We will never know how Stewie would have performed on teams that DT or Maya played on , or how DT or Maya would have performed on the team Stewie played on. I think all three are great and there is no clear answer as to who is the greatest, All three are keepers.

 

[hoophuskee]

You are too sensitive. There were other posters saying the same thing and I did not single out any one. My point was that a players greatness cannot be judged because of their teammates. We will never know how Stewie would have performed on teams that DT or Maya played on , or how DT or Maya would have performed on the team Stewie played on. I think all three are great and there is no clear answer as to who is the greatest, All three are keepers.

What do you mean I am too sensitive? I just didn't agree with you with some of your post - that's all. Still don't. I respect your opinion. I hope I wasn't disrespectful? You said that my posts stated that DT or Maya were better. They didn't. They offered a counter that either could be. The thing is - you say you are disagreeing with me in that there is no clear cut answer yet most of the posters I replied to - were the ones that said/implied Stewie was GOAT. Unless I misunderstood any of them? Here is what I said- so I'm not proclaiming Stewie as GOAT yet--unlike this thread is-

All I have said is I want to see this season is Stewie and the rest of this team close the deal

When you say -- We will never know how Stewie would have performed on teams that DT or Maya played on , or how DT or Maya would have performed on the team Stewie played on --

Well I think I generally do know. Because as you say "All three are keepers."

Great players that can pass and shoot make others much better offensively. I see no reason why the college Maya Moore can't be just as great now as she was back in 07-08 thru 10-11. My comments are general - not literal. But KEEPERS as you say -- and Maya IS one-- imo no reason to believe she couldn't be a keeper in this day when she was in college. If she were a keeper - she would WIN. OFC team needs to be structured slightly differently. But that is "literal." You give a college young Maya -- arguably the greatest pg in UCONN history - and are you trying to say I can't make an assumption that they wouldn't be totally awesome? I can't assume her jump shot wouldn't flutter over ND players with a pg like MJ - even though I saw her jump shot flutter through the nets at high efficiency vs ND even in defeat?

If you don't think so- it's okay. We can agree to disagree.