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nelsonmuntz said:
If you think Boyle is not ready to play, then we shouldn't have burned the redshirt when there are 2 QB's on the roster with experience that could benefit from improved oline play.

If you think Boyle will be the program savior, then we shouldn't have burned the redshirt in the middle of a lost season with an interim coach.

In other words, we shouldn't have burned the redshirt.
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Do you see TB hanging in for a 5th year if he started 3 years and had the credits to graduate or pro interest? Not so sure. Don't get me wrong I wanted to give Casey a shot and keep Tim from taking some shots he barely avoided today. But what's done is done and he's on the fast learning curve now. But he has the tools
 
This team is what it's record says it is. It's just a bad football team. Good teams find ways to win, bad teams ways to lose. We've lost in just about every way possible this season. It's not a coincidence.
 
nelsonmuntz said:
If you think Boyle is not ready to play, then we shouldn't have burned the redshirt when there are 2 QB's on the roster with experience that could benefit from improved oline play.

If you think Boyle will be the program savior, then we shouldn't have burned the redshirt in the middle of a lost season with an interim coach.

In other words, we shouldn't have burned the redshirt.
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Tell me more about how uconn should drop its football program
 
The BY football IQ is at an all time low. More idiots move in and more rational posters stay away.

For you folks who don't like what you saw today. I've got bad news for you. There's more coming. I have no problem supporting the team now that PPGDL is gone.

You want to be critical? Fine....but give it a rest after you do. Whether you are just some drunkin' kid or an angry old man, don't flatter yourself and think you have a clue. You don't.

As a matter of fact....just go the duckk away. It's going to be a tough year...maybe 2...get used to it...or again...get the duckk out.
 
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UCweCONN said:
This team is what it's record says it is. It's just a bad football team. Good teams find ways to win, bad teams ways to lose. We've lost in just about every way possible this season. It's not a coincidence.
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You've told us this 3 duckcking times. Now shut the duckk up.
 
huskynation said:
Boyle's stats
15-43 149 yards. 3.5 yards an attempt, fumble returned for a touchdown.
Do many dropped passes did you watch the game?

9 rushes for 12 yards
Yes behind a line that has been so spectacular all season. I could not imagine a few sacks killing that stat

running game (excluding boyle)

28 rushes 195 yards 1 td 6.9 yards a rush

Lyle McCombs runs for a career high 164 yards.

offensive production 10 points with a net of 3 points ( due to the 7 points USF defense

I need one of you geniuses to explain this.
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And you don't have to call us geniuses feel free to just to refer to us as people who have watched more than a couple of college football games in our lifetime.
 
huskymedic said:
“@NoEscalators: Also, congrats to The Boneyard on the 60-post "BOYLE IS HORRIBLE" thread. Thought that might take a few more weeks. Boneyard Gonna Boneyard.”

LOL
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Who is that?
 
Jimdish255 said:
So you want to put this guy back in?



Hmmm...wonder who said that?
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I think that I just got a little too excited with the Boyle hype and overreacted in saying he is horrible after the game. I watched a replay of the game. Tough loss, when the defense plays so well, the other qb is horrible, and the running game is excellent. I have been looking forward to the game for two weeks and honestly, still had not given up on the season. However, after today reality sinks in.

Yes, one can say that Boyle lost the game, but at the same time, it isn't fair to blame him, he's a true freshman and he was thrown into the fire. Alot of his passes were high, which is probably nerves. So he should improve, he does have a good arm, decent mobility and very good size. He looks more like a D 1 qb than Whitmer.

However, the schedule is going to get tougher, Cincinnati, Louisville, UCF. If he can go to Cincinnati and play decent improve, from game to game then it was good to burn the red-shirt. If he gets shell shocked and it hurts his confidence, then maybe it might have been better to have given had him a year to redshirt. The question is whether Boyle gives the best chance to win Now.

I found myself after the game think whether Cochran, Whitmer or even Taylor ( due to read-option) should get some time. Obviously, I am not sure where to go from here. But Weist put himself in a bad situation starting Boyle because he's going to take alot of criticism is he doesn't let Boyle stay in there. Yet at the same time he has a mandate to win now, or he won't see 2014, at least not as HC.
 
huskynation said:
really so why didn't those touchdowns count, foxx beat his man by seven yards and he overthrew him, he had 28 in-completions today and you can;t blame all of those on drops, now imagine, he was at home, the defense played well, and they ran the ball really well, whats going to happen when he goes on the road or if the they can;t run the ball.
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Dude. Are you just ticked off at another loss? I am, but I've got a realistic grasp on this team and what it is now after today. Foxx was overthrown on that ball, and it would have been a great catch, but he got his hands on it, and several others that hit the grass, hit the hands.. He was not sound in his mechanics, and he got damn lucky he wasn't picked at the end of the game - several times.

He also showed the ability to get first downs, instead of take sacks, and make terrible reads and throws.

Simple question - is Tim Boyle the reason we lost today? I can say ----- without hesitation ----- NO. He played like a freshmen. If he plays the way he did today, a year from now - then I agree with you. Dan Orlovsky's mechanics were crap too. THey were crap when he got to the NFL too. It took him years to get his footwork going well.

No - we lost today, because our wide open TE in the endzone dropped a gimme TD pass that hit him in the hands. Our WALK ON SENIOR TE, who's only depth behind him is VERY young, and also dropped balls that hit him in the hands, and our receiver that was able to get open all day, is a converted running back, who was far down the depth chart, and he dropped the.
 
huskynation said:
I found myself after the game think whether Cochran, Whitmer or even Taylor ( due to read-option) should get some time.
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The more speak the more you show your general lack of football knowledge. Stop while you're behind.
 
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huskynation said:
I think that I just got a little too excited with the Boyle hype and overreacted in saying he is horrible after the game. I watched a replay of the game. Tough loss, when the defense plays so well, the other qb is horrible, and the running game is excellent. I have been looking forward to the game for two weeks and honestly, still had not given up on the season. However, after today reality sinks in.

Yes, one can say that Boyle lost the game, but at the same time, it isn't fair to blame him, he's a true freshman and he was thrown into the fire. Alot of his passes were high, which is probably nerves. So he should improve, he does have a good arm, decent mobility and very good size. He looks more like a D 1 qb than Whitmer.

However, the schedule is going to get tougher, Cincinnati, Louisville, UCF. If he can go to Cincinnati and play decent improve, from game to game then it was good to burn the red-shirt. If he gets shell shocked and it hurts his confidence, then maybe it might have been better to have given had him a year to redshirt. The question is whether Boyle gives the best chance to win Now.

I found myself after the game think whether Cochran, Whitmer or even Taylor ( due to read-option) should get some time. Obviously, I am not sure where to go from here. But Weist put himself in a bad situation starting Boyle because he's going to take alot of criticism is he doesn't let Boyle stay in there. Yet at the same time he has a mandate to win now, or he won't see 2014, at least not as HC.
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I knew it - I wrote what I did just now before I got to this. You were just steamed at another loss. It's ok. I hit my own pressure release valve a few hours ago.
 
Boyle was not horrible today. I don't think Boyle would have put those passes up for grabs in the 4th quarter if Parker and Foxx didn't drop passes earlier. Boyle's mobility is certainly an upgrade from CW.
 
FWIW: I can sympathize/empathize with the confusion/frustration/anger that comes across from huskynation. I felt it today. It was palpable in the air. We didn't score enough points when we had the opportunities early in the game, and the game was slipping away. IT's happened A LOT.

All I can say - is that I think our younger players on this roster, are much more talented than our older players, in many places, and we don't have enough playmakers. It's that simple.

What it comes down to folks - is recruiting. We are seeing now, and will for the rest of the season, now that the P and D show is gone, we are witnessing the fall of recruiting that happened with Randy Edsall. THe sooner you embrace it and realize it, the easier it is to cheer for this 2013 team.

They are working their butts off now, and giving all they got, and they don't have the albatross anymore.

We are just sorely lacking in playmakers. Great players make great plays. That's how the saying goes. DO they have the potential the guys now?

Depends on how hard they work from here on out.
 
huskynation said:
Just to clarify, I don't blame Boyle, he's a true freshmen, however, he didn't look ready to me! I think that he was rushed.

Going forward, my optimism is tempered now. I am not sure how good Boyle is. He might turn out to be a really good qb. But, I definitely did not see anything to make me think that he is special or that he can carry the program the next few years, but hey he will improve.

My point is that he has alot of improving to do. There are quite a few freshmen QB that are playing really well, (see Houston, Penn State, Florida State) which is unusual. Watching this game today, I think it is a good idea to keep recruiting and QBs because there is no "sure thing" on the roster. Sorry for speaking the truth. We will see how things turn out. If he improves going forward I will be encouraged. However, it is not a given in the near term.
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If your point is as you say he has a lot of improving to do I don't think anyone would disagree but the title of your post is a mean-spirited attack.
 
huskynation said:
I'm nuts? so you thought he was impressive. Don't ever try to be a scout, your family will starve.
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Strongly disagree Mr. Cochran/Whitmer.

His numbers stunk but Tim Boyle showed poise and pocket presence we haven't seen at the QB position since Dan. Threw the ball away when he needed to, stepped up and ran when the window opened.

I remember looking at the scoreboard with 8:30 left in the first quarter and being amazed that we only had 10 passing yards. It sounds stupid but just by the way the kid conducted himself today I truly feel we've found our QB for the next 3+ years.

We make some early 1st quarter catches to give TB some confidence and things may have ended up very differently.
 
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Insanely stupid comment. Boyle has a canon, quick release, sees the field and goes through progressions. He did not hold the ball too low. He got stripped in the process of throwing once. He moved in the pocket nicely. He just needs some tough. Everything was a bullet.

This was his first college game and he played pretty well. He will be the QB we've had since Dan O.
 
huskynation said:
Not impressed with him, he needs alot of work, should have redshirted. He had bad footwork, wasn't stepping into his throws, erratic throws, was having trouble reading coverage, and for a guy that's 6'4'' he holds the ball too low.

15 of 43 149 yards, and he should have had 5 picks.
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This is a serious post?
 
huskynation said:
I think that I just got a little too excited with the Boyle hype and overreacted in saying he is horrible after the game. I watched a replay of the game. Tough loss, when the defense plays so well, the other qb is horrible, and the running game is excellent. I have been looking forward to the game for two weeks and honestly, still had not given up on the season. However, after today reality sinks in.

Yes, one can say that Boyle lost the game, but at the same time, it isn't fair to blame him, he's a true freshman and he was thrown into the fire. Alot of his passes were high, which is probably nerves. So he should improve, he does have a good arm, decent mobility and very good size. He looks more like a D 1 qb than Whitmer.

However, the schedule is going to get tougher, Cincinnati, Louisville, UCF. If he can go to Cincinnati and play decent improve, from game to game then it was good to burn the red-shirt. If he gets shell shocked and it hurts his confidence, then maybe it might have been better to have given had him a year to redshirt. The question is whether Boyle gives the best chance to win Now.

I found myself after the game think whether Cochran, Whitmer or even Taylor ( due to read-option) should get some time. Obviously, I am not sure where to go from here. But Weist put himself in a bad situation starting Boyle because he's going to take alot of criticism is he doesn't let Boyle stay in there. Yet at the same time he has a mandate to win now, or he won't see 2014, at least not as HC.
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I think we mostly agree. This game has been deconstructed and magnified way beyond it's usefulness. I'm not really sure who gave so many people the impression that Tim Boyle was ready to step in and carry the team on his back. I believe what the coach feels and many of us agree is that he has at least an equal chance of winning and more (imo way more) upside than the other QB's. The polish will not come overnight and the team has to step up and help him as he gets experience. Today some of the recievers and linemen let him down.

So we're committed to Tim and the learnng curve he represents. This isn't a one game audition but a judgement that he can and will make the adjustments necessary to lead the team. Let's hope we get Shakim back soon and see what everybody learns from the new season that started today.
 
H-Nation, guys like you make me embarrassed to be a Husky fan. Get a grip. The kid was fine, one can't throw and catch at the same time. Put 14 points on in the first quarter and its a different game and even then he stayed composed and has an arm. Take a valium or two and get some therapy!
 
nelsonmuntz said:
If you think Boyle is not ready to play, then we shouldn't have burned the redshirt when there are 2 QB's on the roster with experience that could benefit from improved oline play.

If you think Boyle will be the program savior, then we shouldn't have burned the redshirt in the middle of a lost season with an interim coach.

In other words, we shouldn't have burned the redshirt.
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If the best QB on your roster is a freshman you play him. Don't understand the fascination with redshirting when he is going it start. this will pay huge dividends in the future.
 
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I like how no one has yet to mention the continuous pressure that Boyle was playing through. Beside all the drops, he was under the same constant pressure that the O-Line has caused Whitmer to have all season long. The difference this game was that Boyle was able to scramble or had the whits to throw the ball away and not force it into triple coverage. CW didn't do that. He was constantly throwing the ball into coverage when he was pressured or taking sacks. Boyle got out of those situations and kept the downs to be manageable instead of constantly facing 3rd and 15+ yrds.

I don't know who really expected Boyle to be superman out there but the fact that we lost the game is not solely on him. There are countless things that can be blamed and Boyle is not anywhere near the top of my list.

So instead of starting the same stupid @ss thread after every upcoming loss, how about we just look for progress and hope we win a game or two. 0-12 is a strong possibility with this team and it won't be because Boyle is in at QB. I'd rather see him gain experience and make connections with his receivers in game situations so that next season he can start with a leg up as opposed to him coming as a redshirt Frosh.
 
I was at the game and then I watched it again tonite. Parker should have caught that ball in the end zone for a td and even tough Fox, had to dive for it, the ball hit him in the forearms. Even the announcer doing the game, said Fox should of had it. that's 14-0, and takes a lot of pressure off the true freshman. Those 2 drops early were huge, even TJ say so.
Boyle did NOT have a horrible game. He did Not cost us the game.
 
Boyle played pretty awful. I'm sorry, but USF is one of the worst teams in the country and I wasn't impressed at all. I was at the game, will continue going to the games, but he was not good today. It was his first start, so ultimately, that's fine, but I don't want to sit here and read about how good he looked today.

Again, not killing Boyle, as it was his first start.

I'm just saying the people that are being critical are far less in the wrong than these people proclaiming boyle to be the savior.
 
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