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Interesting. Not surprised at all about the inclinations of the players discussed, but I am surprised that Calhoun seems less committal about returning to coach than he has in his previous statements on that subject. Usually he remains noncommittal when directly addressing the question, but then he comments on that and other issues in a way that signals that he sees himself staying. I don't get any of that in these comments.
 
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very interesting. I think Drummond should stay obviously and ultimately I think he will. Lamb's stock has dropped significantly from around 4-8 to now about 12-15. This might convince him to come back. It sounds like Calhoun will come back as well. Now all we need is for the NCAA to hop off our d's and we could be looking at quite the season next year. All these rumors make it seem like UConn is still playing.
 
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Interesting news, thanks for posting this. The AO situation keeps getting stranger and I also wonder what Calhoun's advice to AD will be. It seems like AD will follow whatever Calhoun advises, so will Calhoun tell a lottery pick to come back to school? Has he ever advised a player in that situation to return?
 
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Interesting news, thanks for posting this. The AO situation keeps getting stranger and I also wonder what Calhoun's advice to AD will be. It seems like AD will follow whatever Calhoun advises, so will Calhoun tell a lottery pick to come back to school? Has he ever advised a player in that situation to return?

He advised Rudy Gay to return. He basically asked him whether he wanted to be an NBA player or if he wanted to be a star in the NBA after his freshmen season. Rudy stayed and now averages 19 points a game
 
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Drummond will always be a question mark until he officially declares his decision. Its that big of a decision, and will require a lot of discussions, and reasoning. He could be an instant millionaire or a deferred millionaire. Hopefully his happiness is not about the money.
 
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I feel like we are at a crossroads for this program.
Calhoun might retire
3 to 4 players could leave
2013 tourney not looking good

Hey I am not usually neagive on this board, but I am concerned
 

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I feel like we are at a crossroads for this program.
Calhoun might retire
3 to 4 players could leave
2013 tourney not looking good

Hey I am not usually neagive on this board, but I am concerned

Same here.

Best realistic case to me: Boat, Bazz, Daniels, Roscoe, Drummond and eligible for the NCAAs with Calhoun coaching.
Worst realistic case to me: Boat, Bazz, Daniels, Roscoe, Olander and not eligible for the NCAAs with Calhoun questionable for the season.
 
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He advised Rudy Gay to return. He basically asked him whether he wanted to be an NBA player or if he wanted to be a star in the NBA after his freshmen season. Rudy stayed and now averages 19 points a game
Rudy wanted to withdraw his name from that draft, but he shot himself in the foot, academically. Apparently, he would've flunked out had he not gone pro. Calhoun mentioned this on a radio show a few years ago.
 
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Sounds like Drummond is leaning towards returning, Lamb is leaning towards going pro and Alex is not officially gone yet.

http://borgesblognhr.blogspot.com/

Thanks for the information. I am convinced JC and Andre will be back. Andre showed me all he needed to show me about who he is when he refused to take Michael Bradley's scholarship. And I really don't think he wants his legacy at UConn to be what he did this year. Not to mention that I think he has real pride in the academic part of his life; and, I also think he wants to be in a position to contribute right away at the next level. He'll be back. Lamb coming back would be a surprise; but I really don't think he is NBA ready yet either. In his case it has more to do with who he is as a player mentally and emotionally. He has to find an edge to his game. The edge that will have him craving the spotlight in big situations. The edge that will cause him to really want to put a team on his back when the situation calls for it. Right now, even though he has a ton more skill, he reminds me of Josh Boone. Too soft too often. Quite frankly the player that I am most interested in seeing changes in is DeAndre. This guy was supposed to have it all. He was almost a shadow on the court. He has to ratchet up his confidence bigtime because he will be needed to fill, and I mean really fill, the void if Lamb leaves.

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Interesting news, thanks for posting this. The AO situation keeps getting stranger and I also wonder what Calhoun's advice to AD will be. It seems like AD will follow whatever Calhoun advises, so will Calhoun tell a lottery pick to come back to school? Has he ever advised a player in that situation to return?
AD is a special case. It's not like someone such as Rip, Ray, Caron, Ben, etc. who has honed their skills and wouldn't be able to learn much more from college. Even someone like Villanueva or Rudy Gay, they'd proved their mettle in college, competed against the best in the country and succeeded, and their draft stock was a result of their play in college. That is not the case with AD. His draft choice would be 100% on potential and not on actual accomplishments. There, obviously, are NUMEROUS things he can and needs to work on at this level, and he has certainly not proven that he can compete and succeed against the best of the best at the collegiate level. I cannot see Calhoun advising him that jumping at this point would be a good idea. You don't go to the NBA to learn new skills, you won't succeed. He'd be the next Kwame Brown. And there will be a scholarship for him next season.

Lamb is a different case, and I think the NCAA tournament will play a very big role in his decision since his draft stock, should he return, could hinge a lot depending on his play in the NCAA tournament, were we to be in it, much the same as Caron's draft stock skyrocketed after his run in 2002.
 
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AD is a special case. It's not like someone such as Rip, Ray, Caron, Ben, etc. who has honed their skills and wouldn't be able to learn much more from college. Even someone like Villanueva or Rudy Gay, they'd proved their mettle in college, competed against the best in the country and succeeded, and their draft stock was a result of their play in college. That is not the case with AD. His draft choice would be 100% on potential and not on actual accomplishments. There, obviously, are NUMEROUS things he can and needs to work on at this level, and he has certainly not proven that he can compete and succeed against the best of the best at the collegiate level. I cannot see Calhoun advising him that jumping at this point would be a good idea. You don't go to the NBA to learn new skills, you won't succeed. He'd be the next Kwame Brown. And there will be a scholarship for him next season.

Lamb is a different case, and I think the NCAA tournament will play a very big role in his decision since his draft stock, should he return, could hinge a lot depending on his play in the NCAA tournament, were we to be in it, much the same as Caron's draft stock skyrocketed after his run in 2002.
AD is a special case and that's what makes this call so interesting. I don't buy that AD definitely won't learn the skills he needs in the NBA. There are a handful of post players succeeding in the NBA who never even spent a year in college and they all learned their skills after they became pros. High draft picks are an investment for these teams, so it's not like the players are just left to completely fend for themselves in the NBA. Their teams have at least, if not more of an interest in developing them than college coaches do.

I'm not saying that AD will definitely develop in the NBA better than at UConn, and I agree that he could use more seasoning before he enters the draft, but I don't really get this notion that a university program will definitely teach a kid how to play basketball better than a multi-million dollar franchise competing at the highest level of the sport in the world.

Everyone knows that AD's not ready to succeed in the NBA next year. I don't think JC would tell him, though, to basically hold off on that $10 million contract for a year because he'll develop Andre better than an NBA franchise will.
 
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AD is a special case and that's what makes this call so interesting. I don't buy that AD definitely won't learn the skills he needs in the NBA. There are a handful of post players succeeding in the NBA who never even spent a year in college and they all learned their skills after they became pros. High draft picks are an investment for these teams, so it's not like the players are just left to completely fend for themselves in the NBA. Their teams have at least, if not more of an interest in developing them than college coaches do.

I'm not saying that AD will definitely develop in the NBA better than at UConn, and I agree that he could use more seasoning before he enters the draft, but I don't really get this notion that a university program will definitely teach a kid how to play basketball better than a multi-million dollar franchise competing at the highest level of the sport in the world.

Everyone knows that AD's not ready to succeed in the NBA next year. I don't think JC would tell him, though, to basically hold off on that $10 million contract for a year because he'll develop Andre better than an NBA franchise will.
I'm usually just a lurker here, but I can't resist throwing my two cents in on this one, since I think there is something being ignored in this discussion. A kids body, his BB skills and his potential draft status are all important, but so is a kid's maturity level, his ability to be out on his own, dealing with the travel, etc, etc. All kids are different and many young folks can handle all this at a very tender age, but for many, it can be a real problem. My sense is that Andre is a REALLY GOOD kid with his head on straight, but I also have a feeling he is not terribly mature in many ways, though obviously physically he is a man. Add in the fact that he apparently really enjoys school life and the academics, I could really see him staying another year and I could see how it could give him a world of benefits!
 
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The best comparison for Drummond is probably Rudy Gay. Highly hyped coming out of high school, had nice freshman seasons but didn't really live up to the hype. In both cases, neither were mature enough to play in the NBA against grown men. I don't think Rudy's career would have turned out as well if he didn't return for his sophmore season, and I don't think Drummond's would/will either.
 
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I feel like we are at a crossroads for this program.
Calhoun might retire
3 to 4 players could leave
2013 tourney not looking good

Hey I am not usually neagive on this board, but I am concerned
Your concerns are legitimate. Right now things look this way: Alex will transfer, Lamb to NBA, Drummond will return, another player will likely transfer, no NCAA tourney next year and if JC returns it will be for only next season.
There is plenty to be concerned about but none these things will bury our program. BTW, your thoughts aren't negative, the situation is.
 
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Your concerns are legitimate. Right now things look this way: Alex will transfer, Lamb to NBA, Drummond will return, another player will likely transfer, no NCAA tourney next year and if JC returns it will be for only next season.
There is plenty to be concerned about but none these things will bury our program. BTW, your thoughts aren't negative, the situation is.

1. While I do think Lamb is the closest we have on this squad to being a lock in the NBA draft... one never knows. He could decide to come back in an effort to prove that he can be "the guy" rather than just a second option, if he has the mentality to do so and believes in the fact that he can do so. That type of transformation alone could land him in the top 3-5 picks for sure, instead of ~12 as some have said he is projected (I don't follow the draft projection sites, I just go by what is updated on here and what I hear on the media)

2. I do agree Alex will transfer and Drummond will return (the combination of which I think could be beneficial to this squad overall, as Alex will no longer be fighting his own internal demons as he seemed to be doing while playing with AD). Plus, that would leave AD as THE MAN for us down in the post. He'd be free to dominate it entirely, rather than having any concern about stepping on his "captain's" (even though AO never acted like a captain this year, unfortunately) toes.. etc. etc. I think that having AD as our primary big man could be very beneficial for his growth as he will get a lot more post action and experience.

3. I'm not so sure that we will likely see another transfer besides AO... maybe one of the other big men that has hardly played yet simply in hopes of getting more PT/development somewhere else. But overall, I think AO is the only transfer we are really looking at, at this point. I could be very wrong about this though (and honestly, I wouldn't be upset if we freed up a scholarship that isn't really being used as much as we'd like... given the limited number of schollies we've been working with).

4. Lastly, and most important... I definitely do not think that next year is JC's last year. I think JC's last season will likely be 2013-2014 (that's when his contract ends, correct?). I think he has every intention of completing out his contract, as long as health permits. Not only does he want to leave the program in a stable state (which it will not be one year from now, though it will be getting much much closer), but he also has a strong interest in ensuring that there is a solid replacement for him when he does leave which is still up in the air regardless of the Kevin Ollie rumors. In addition, he and Shabazz seem to have a very strong relationship (a la the relationship he had with Kemba) and I think Boatright is also developing that type of relationship as well. Calhoun sees these kids as his own children practically, and I have a strong feeling he wants to help them succeed in a UConn uniform until the end.

Not to say that he doesn't have a very strong relationship with all of his players that have the work ethic/attitude of Kemba/Bazz/Boat/etc.... but Bazz was apart of something very special last year (and that alone holds a lot of weight in the fact that he was a part of "bringing new life" in a way to Calhoun). And Boatright just simply has some qualities about him that really, really remind me of Kemba in a number of ways; and we all know Calhoun loves that type of personality, work ethic, and so forth.

Either way, who knows... Calhoun's retirement could come at any time, especially given potential health concerns. But I truly believe he has every intention of finishing out his current contract which I believe ends in 2014. Shabazz would be graduating after his 4th year at that point (if he doesn't leave after his 3rd year, which I hope he doesn't for his own sake) and Boatright would be finishing his 3rd year. If 2014 results in a National Championship (knock on wood), I could see Boat possibly declaring for the draft, Shabazz graduating/declaring, and Calhoun riding out in the sunset on top in the 4 NC club.
 
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Missing out on the NCAA tourney next year would suck, but it would be pretty awesome if Lamb and Drummond stayed and the team was awesome and it forced everyone to seriously discuss how ridiculous this APR situation is.
 
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The best comparison for Drummond is probably Rudy Gay. Highly hyped coming out of high school, had nice freshman seasons but didn't really live up to the hype. In both cases, neither were mature enough to play in the NBA against grown men. I don't think Rudy's career would have turned out as well if he didn't return for his sophmore season, and I don't think Drummond's would/will either.
I just can't see that comparison. Maybe just due to the position they play. AD is not very skilled in fundamentals, let alone advanced skills. Rudy could do a lot on his own. Upside is the sky for AD though.
 
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The key with AD is that he doesn't need the NCAA tourney to market himself. Just come back, use the summer and season to work on your game skills, and then you're a guaranteed nba starter for a generation. Leave now, risk oblivion

For the record, I think the NCAA will eventually let us play in tourney, as if they don't they'll getbtheirnasses handed to them in court for this retroactive ...

Look forwardntomseeing AD develop, and dunk on lots of people, hopefully on pat fordes face
 
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I'm usually just a lurker here, but I can't resist throwing my two cents in on this one, since I think there is something being ignored in this discussion. A kids body, his BB skills and his potential draft status are all important, but so is a kid's maturity level, his ability to be out on his own, dealing with the travel, etc, etc. All kids are different and many young folks can handle all this at a very tender age, but for many, it can be a real problem. My sense is that Andre is a REALLY GOOD kid with his head on straight, but I also have a feeling he is not terribly mature in many ways, though obviously physically he is a man. Add in the fact that he apparently really enjoys school life and the academics, I could really see him staying another year and I could see how it could give him a world of benefits!
I agree that this hinges on how emotionally ready Andre feels. It also seems like a matter of confidence for him. I think Andre can just as easily develop his skill set in the NBA as he can at UConn, but college is a better place to develop his confidence.

I don't think Calhoun will necessarily push Andre to come back, but he won't push him into the draft either.
 
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Quite frankly the player that I am most interested in seeing changes in is DeAndre. This guy was supposed to have it all. He was almost a shadow on the court. He has to ratchet up his confidence bigtime because he will be needed to fill, and I mean really fill, the void if Lamb leaves.

GO HUSKIES!!!

I have to give Daniels a pass on the season, especially its second half, given his sister's health problems. I expect a very different player next year, and I'm already very hopeful to hear him mention he knows exactly what he needs to work on this summer.
 
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