borges: nba scouts weigh in on the huskies
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I agree. Whaley is my sleeper NBA pick.
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Whaley is such an elite and versatile defender that I find myself wondering if he could get any type of look, or at least a place in the G League. Still, I’m not sure Covington is a very good comparison. He shot 42% from three on 3.7 attempts per game in college. Whaley’s best shooting season was 35% on 1 attempt per game last year, before dropping to 29% this year.
I know the experts here keep saying the NBA won't draft older guys, but how many players stay beyond their first contract with the team that originally drafted them?
Their contracts are for three years and most players aren't stars right away, so the teams that draft them essentially serve as the G-League for them. I cite one JB as a prime example in this his first year. Will he break out next year or the year after? Maybe, maybe not.
If most move on, then who loses by drafting a more complete player who happens to be two or three years older than a 19 or 20 year old who isn't ready for the NBA? A more complete player may provide value immediately while the "potential" superstar sits and watches for three years then leaves for the best offer.
Their contracts are for three years and most players aren't stars right away, so the teams that draft them essentially serve as the G-League for them. I cite one JB as a prime example in this his first year. Will he break out next year or the year after? Maybe, maybe not.
If most move on, then who loses by drafting a more complete player who happens to be two or three years older than a 19 or 20 year old who isn't ready for the NBA? A more complete player may provide value immediately while the "potential" superstar sits and watches for three years then leaves for the best offer.
First round NBA rookie contracts are 2 year contracts with additional team options for the 3rd an 4th years. These get picked up for 95% of guys (especially the 3rd year). And then after that the team owns the restricted free agent rights with option to match any contract. A guy has to accept a 1-year 5th year contract to avoid being restricted. So at a minimum, teams have 5 years of "control" over any drafted player and usually they sign 4-year extensions before 4th year that starts at 5th year so teams have promising rookies for at least 8 years.
2nd round picks are a different story and the team control can be as low as 2 years.
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No way, great glue guy in college, but he has no inside game whatsoever, and he's not good enough on perimeter. His defense does not translate to the NBA because the better players will take him off the dribble. He is also not as a good a rebounder as people think and he has a hard time securing the ball when it comes off the glass, like in bounces off his finger tips. I also notice the game tends to speed up on him, and he panics a little when he has the ball. He is a great teammate and he helps UConn in so many areas, but not an NBA player.
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Andre and Adama both know they need to improve their face-the-basket jump shot game to play at next level. Guessing this summer will include a lot of reps in that area as they prepare for next CBB season.
Maybe Hawk or Tyler(if he's hanging around to stay in shape) can provide some pointers.
Maybe Hawk or Tyler(if he's hanging around to stay in shape) can provide some pointers.
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Hawk already had the picture jump shot, what he doesn't have is the takeover the game/ he's the number one option guy. He dribbles, he passes. That's Cole right now but next year I expect a big increase from him. But he has the skill to force shots that he can actually make.
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2 way guy, coming back would easily put him in the top 60 if he makes marginal improvements to his scoring game.
Sanogo is only a sophomore so going forward he could definitely improve his game, but right now he reminds me of a more athletic version of John Pinone who played for Villanova many years ago.
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Great season coaching Cromwell this year too. I think they're 21-1
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Vecenie’s 2022 NBA Draft Big Board 3.0: Chet Holmgren, Jabari Smith in their own tier; Shaedon Sharpe enters fray
Players who emerge this month have every opportunity to be able to push themselves into the conversation to be taken in Round 1.
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New Athletic top 100 for this year's draft. No Huskies.
If you look at this list from 60 (end of the second round) to 100, you will realize how difficult it is to get drafted into the NBA as an upper classman. So many incredible players who like they belong in the league barely make the cut.
Examples:
Kofi Cockburn - #66
Julian Champagnie - #74
Justin Moore - #78
Hunter Dickinson - #85
Johnny Juzang - #87
Trayce Jackson Davis - #100
Should put into perspective how unlikely it is for a guy like Tyrese Martin to be drafted. He has a shot to play in the league for sure, but he's going to have to work his way up from the bottom.
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And, again, Sanogo is almost certainly a 4 year guy.Vecenie’s 2022 NBA Draft Big Board 3.0: Chet Holmgren, Jabari Smith in their own tier; Shaedon Sharpe enters fray
Players who emerge this month have every opportunity to be able to push themselves into the conversation to be taken in Round 1.
New Athletic top 100 for this year's draft. No Huskies.
If you look at this list from 60 (end of the second round) to 100, you will realize how difficult it is to get drafted into the NBA as an upper classman. So many incredible players who like they belong in the league barely make the cut.
Examples:
Kofi Cockburn - #66
Julian Champagnie - #74
Justin Moore - #78
Hunter Dickinson - #85
Johnny Juzang - #87
Trayce Jackson Davis - #100
Should put into perspective how unlikely it is for a guy like Tyrese Martin to be drafted. He has a shot to play in the league for sure, but he's going to have to work his way up from the bottom.
If Kofi as a junior averaging 21/11 in a grown-man legit 7' frame isn't on anyone's board, Sanogo has no chance unless he starts shooting 3's.
That's not a bad thing for us. I'd be happy to have Sanogo dominate the college level for another 2 years after this even if he never sniffs the NBA.
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I know he's older (21 in June), but I can't believe how low scouts are on Champagnie. He's not the most athletic but he's a great scorer and a solid rebounder who has good size and can shoot. I would have thought he'd be an ideal guy to have off the bench. I find it hard to believe he wouldn't even be worth a 2nd round pick for someone, maybe they see him as a volume scorer
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Hated Pinone as he was from CT but was at Nova but he was very effective down low. I can't remember if he ever dunked but John was great at getting and making shots in the post. Just a solid player.
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Vecenie’s 2022 NBA Draft Big Board 3.0: Chet Holmgren, Jabari Smith in their own tier; Shaedon Sharpe enters fray
Players who emerge this month have every opportunity to be able to push themselves into the conversation to be taken in Round 1.
New Athletic top 100 for this year's draft. No Huskies.
If you look at this list from 60 (end of the second round) to 100, you will realize how difficult it is to get drafted into the NBA as an upper classman. So many incredible players who like they belong in the league barely make the cut.
Examples:
Kofi Cockburn - #66
Julian Champagnie - #74
Justin Moore - #78
Hunter Dickinson - #85
Johnny Juzang - #87
Trayce Jackson Davis - #100
Should put into perspective how unlikely it is for a guy like Tyrese Martin to be drafted. He has a shot to play in the league for sure, but he's going to have to work his way up from the bottom.
Champagnie and Juzang are criminally low. Not a fan of TJD, but he’s a poor man’s Thad Young. All 3 have been in the early/mid 2nd round in mock drafts
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I think he is a bit slow and less physical for todays NBA 3
He is a great scorer but his physical attributes are not NBA type
He will find a spot as a plug in scorer but he won't have a long term career - better suited for Euro ball
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Nova recruited several great players from Connecticut during the Massimino years. Harold Presley was another one, as was Harold Jensen. I believe Pinone’s brother also played for Rollie.
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Think AJ’s athleticism combined with his vision gives him a chance of getting drafted high IF he figures it out offensively. With Cole, Tyrese, Polley, and Whaley gone next year he kind of has no chance but to.Vecenie’s 2022 NBA Draft Big Board 3.0: Chet Holmgren, Jabari Smith in their own tier; Shaedon Sharpe enters fray
Players who emerge this month have every opportunity to be able to push themselves into the conversation to be taken in Round 1.
New Athletic top 100 for this year's draft. No Huskies.
If you look at this list from 60 (end of the second round) to 100, you will realize how difficult it is to get drafted into the NBA as an upper classman. So many incredible players who like they belong in the league barely make the cut.
Examples:
Kofi Cockburn - #66
Julian Champagnie - #74
Justin Moore - #78
Hunter Dickinson - #85
Johnny Juzang - #87
Trayce Jackson Davis - #100
Should put into perspective how unlikely it is for a guy like Tyrese Martin to be drafted. He has a shot to play in the league for sure, but he's going to have to work his way up from the bottom.
With how guys stepped up this year I’m pretty excited to see how a lineup like this can step up when consistently being relied on.
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ESPN’s Mike Schmitz and Jonathan Givony on March Madness
Podcast Episode · The Woj Pod · 03/14/2022 · 51m
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woj pod with espn's draft analysts jonathan givony and mike schmitz. they preview the ncaa field and discuss potential pro prospects on each team -- woj specifically shouts out hawkins, jackson, and sanogo from uconn and then schmitz goes out of his way to talk about martin. compares him to the martin twins, as others on this board have done. pretty cool.
uconn discussed around the 40 minute mark.
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Just listened to this and came to the board to post but you beat me! Really cool segment I thought. Sometimes as fans we overestimate our guys' NBA prospects, so it's nice to hear big-time draft analysts validate that someone like Martin is making a name for himself among NBA scouts.ESPN’s Mike Schmitz and Jonathan Givony on March Madness
Podcast Episode · The Woj Pod · 03/14/2022 · 51m
woj pod with espn's draft analysts jonathan givony and mike schmitz. they preview the ncaa field and discuss potential pro prospects on each team -- woj specifically shouts out hawkins, jackson, and sanogo from uconn and then schmitz goes out of his way to talk about martin. compares him to the martin twins, as others on this board have done. pretty cool.
uconn discussed around the 40 minute mark.
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Guess I’ll mention I’ve heard from a decent source in scouting that Martin is on his radar as well. He might have a chance with a strong march.
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Wow. He just brought back nightmares from college days. The picture guy for "Beast" in the encyclopedia. Adama will have to kick it up a notch in aggressiveness to match him. With his work ethic on his weaknesses, though, as well as the skills he does have I have to like his chances at the next level.
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