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Borges: Is Providence College becoming heated rival for UConn men’s basketball team? Depends on who you ask

navery12 said:
I think you're a bit confused what the discussion is then, I'm sure there will be buzz for the game because it's 2 local teams. What I'm saying is I wouldn't consider PC a rival
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They need to keep beating us for it to develop into one. Do you see Creighton becoming one?
 
Our only real rivals are Syracuse and Pitt. We all dislike Duke more than the former, but they are not our rivals.
 
GlastonTim said:
They need to keep beating us for it to develop into one. Do you see Creighton becoming one?
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Not really, I guess if they're consistently a top 3 BE team along with us and Villanova it could happen. But there has to be something more than just 2 good teams playing for a rivalry and I don't see any UConn fan caring enough about Creighton for that to ever happen
 
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navery12 said:
Not really, I guess if they're consistently a top 3 BE team along with us and Villanova it could happen. But there has to be something more than just 2 good teams playing for a rivalry and I don't see any UConn fan caring enough about Creighton for that to ever happen
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I suspect if you were to ask the current players and coaches who are rivals are they would list Villanova, Creighton and Providence ahead of Syracuse and Pitt. Those two probably aren’t on it.
 
navery12 said:
Not really, I guess if they're consistently a top 3 BE team along with us and Villanova it could happen. But there has to be something more than just 2 good teams playing for a rivalry and I don't see any UConn fan caring enough about Creighton for that to ever happen
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Being in the same league matters. Ask the players
 
GlastonTim said:
I suspect if you were to ask the current players and coaches who are rivals are they would list Villanova, Creighton and Providence ahead of Syracuse and Pitt. Those two probably aren’t on it.
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I suspect you're wrong, seeing as the article that started this discussion consisted of Borges asking Dan Hurley if he considers Providence a rival and he said no
 
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navery12 said:
I suspect you're wrong, seeing as the article that started this discussion consisted of Borges asking Dan Hurley if he considers Providence a rival and he said no
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He clearly wasn't happy about the Floyd thing. He isn't going to just start throwing them compliments now.
 
Hungryhusky99 said:
Isn't that usually what rivalries are?
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Somewhat. To have a true rivalry I think there also has to be a case where teams are perceived as winning meaningful victories. Providence really hasn’t done that. To be honest, other than this year‘s COVID assisted run, they really haven’t done much since Ernie DiGregorio.

So, for me at least, Providence is a collective “meh.” I want to win the games we play against them because they are a conference opponent, but that certainly not different then other conference teams. They aren’t a date I would circle on the schedule. The fact that it is for Providence fans is… nice for them, I guess.
 
Palatine said:
I stand by the sentence. Historically, we have much more history with URI. We do have more history with URI. That is simply a fact.
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Nah, the last game we played in anger against URI came in 1979. Of course Providence is our big rival now. The reason we don't have a pre-Big East history with them is because they wouldn't play us back then. And the only reason we don't have a bigger Big East 1.0 rivalry with them is because the were only good a couple years per decade while we were always good. But trust me, the years they were good, the games were crackling. Now that we're both good and just a short bus ride away it's game on.
 
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Just my take but if I were to hear that we have a game scheduled with Cuse, whether it be in on of the greater NYC venues, Hartford or Gampel, I would take time off work, pay scalper prices and pull out all stops to be there.

If someone offered free, quality seats to a UConn-PC game, unless attending the game would be quite convenient (weekend, no concern over needing to head out too early or return home too late) there's a very strong likelyhood that I would pass.
 
FfldCntyFan said:
Just my take but if I were to hear that we have a game scheduled with Cuse, whether it be in on of the greater NYC venues, Hartford or Gampel, I would take time off work, pay scalper prices and pull out all stops to be there.

If someone offered free, quality seats to a UConn-PC game, unless attending the game would be quite convenient (weekend, no concern over needing to head out too early or return home too late) there's a very strong likelyhood that I would pass.
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Sounds pretty casual
 
The reason why teams like Syracuse, Georgetown, and Nova are considered our rivals are because we have had decades of high-stakes games played against them, and we're competing with them for Big East titles, constant high level recruiting battles, and also in the national championship race too. These teams are nationally relevant, just like we are.

PC hasn't met any of those criteria over the 40 years that we've been in the Big East together. They are in the regional group of St Johns, Seton Hall tier of annoying teams that you expect to beat, but they will play you hard and it sucks to lose against them.

They have a long way to go before I would even put them in my tier of Duke, Cincy, Louisville, and Pitt. We have played those teams in multiple championship games, semi-finals, etc over the years. There just is no postseason history with PC to really ignite the "rivalry" because they have no postseason history lmao
 
aburks41 said:
Here's the fan opinion piece which is part 2 to the original article What UConn men’s basketball fans say about rivalry with Providence: ‘Annoying little brother’

Dave used my quote for the headline hahaha. PC fans were big time mad in my mentions over that
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I may be in the minority but different Big East eras created different rivalries. When the Big East formed Providence and BC were rivals because they were the best teams in NE. As Calhoun changed the culture and started winning, Georgetown, Syracuse, and Nova were the rivals. Pitt evolved in the late 90's and early 2000's with Louisville and gasp... Cincinnati also jumping in line with Syracuse and Nova depending on the years. The bottom line is that Providence will be a rival again if they keep beating us. Until then, it's Nova.
 
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Inyatkin said:
The relationship between Syracuse and UConn has nothing in common with the relationship between Providence and UConn. What is this supposed to mean?
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Syracuse has historically had a bigger rivalry with Georgetown than us, so we're a secondary rival. But we think of them as perhaps our primary rival. We have other primary rivals, but PC fans think of us as a primary rival.
 
auror said:
Syracuse has historically had a bigger rivalry with Georgetown than us, so we're a secondary rival. But we think of them as perhaps our primary rival. We have other primary rivals, but PC fans think of us as a primary rival.
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I guess, but Syracuse and UConn are both historically good, and Providence is Providence. So I don't think the analogy really works.
 
auror said:
Syracuse has historically had a bigger rivalry with Georgetown than us, so we're a secondary rival. But we think of them as perhaps our primary rival. We have other primary rivals, but PC fans think of us as a primary rival.
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No one at Syracuse thinks of Gtown as a rival unless they have a love for 1980's Big East Basketball. Here's how you decide, ask a Syracuse fan what team they hate more and fan base they hate more, Gtown or Syracuse....always UConn.
 
auror said:
Syracuse has historically had a bigger rivalry with Georgetown than us, so we're a secondary rival. But we think of them as perhaps our primary rival. We have other primary rivals, but PC fans think of us as a primary rival.
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Inyatkin said:
I guess, but Syracuse and UConn are both historically good, and Providence is Providence. So I don't think the analogy really works.
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There is a huge difference between UConn fans thinking that PC is like our little annoying brother, versus Syracuse fans thinking that we are their 2nd rival behind Georgetown. We are not Syracuse's little brother lmao. They don't even belong in the same discussion with us when you factor in the most important thing in college basketball, national championships.
 
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