Boise State might be having second thoughts

[B1GEast]

http://www.cbssports.com/collegefoo...ight-be-having-second-thoughts-about-big-east

An industry source told CBSSports.com that Mountain West representatives met with Boise State officials earlier this week to persuade the Broncos to remain in the MWC. Adding to that possibility is that the Broncos still haven't formally notified the Mountain West they are withdrawing from the league.

 

[upstater]

Can't blame them. Hybrid leagues suck. Boise needs a place for its sports.

On the other hand, this is a fly-by-night school that will crater as soon as its coach leaves. It dips into California for marginal students and it simply will fade into obscurity eventually. No big loss either way.

 

[Jarhead_1775]

Please little baby in the manger please get us the out of this debacle of a conference!

 

[sportsart]

I think He would have helped us if you had not used the word.

Please little baby in the manger please get us the out of this debacle of a conference!

 

[Revrat]

I would assume they are already on the hook for the exit fee like TCU was so they might as well wait to see what the TV rights might bring.

 

[mets1090]

We should just extend invitations to every school out there with a football team. That way when they use us as leverage for a better offer from another conference, we simply collect the exit fee and distribute it amongst our schools. Who cares what the TV deal pays when we can collect $250 million per year in exit fees.

 

[pj]

But what if BC decided to accept?

 

[sportsart]

$50 exit fee for BCU.

But what if BC decided to accept?

 

[CL82]

Hartford Courant Article

 

[gars44]

We should join the MWC.

 

[TRest]

I'm having second thoughts about Boise St and SDSU.

 

[Carl Spackler]

Garbage. It's the same cbssports report, that mcmurphy wrote that says that boise 'might' be reconsidering in the headline, and cites nobody as a source, and says nothing new about anything.

Boise needs a home for their sports besides football. They are excited about playing football in the big east and they want to play football in the big east.

Believe NOTHING you read out there about the big east conference inner workings unless it's a directly attributable statement quoted from a big east president or the commissioner, and that doesn't include athletic directors. Presidents or commissioners only, everything else is heresay.

Boise needs a home for their sports other than football, and they're looking....and what it will probably take - is money, for now......until everything stabilizes out west. No reason to think that money won't be available as the summer moves along.

 

[Fishy]

"Well, my sense is that unless you hear differently, I think that there's full commitment from their standpoint," Bailey said. "There's an expectation market, and then there's the reality market. And the reality of it is that those schools have indicated, to my knowledge, to the executive committee and to the other members, that they have a big belief that the Big East is a really good partner for them."

Translation: Yup, it's true.

There are so many qualifications in Bailey's statement that I lost count of them.

And there is this...this is not a "we're definitely committed to the Big East" sort of statement.

"We are actively monitoring the changing landscape in college athletics and remain committed to making the best long-term decisions for Boise State," a spokesman said.

 

[Yonick]

"Well, my sense is that unless you hear differently, I think that there's full commitment from their standpoint," Bailey said. "There's an expectation market, and then there's the reality market. And the reality of it is that those schools have indicated, to my knowledge, to the executive committee and to the other members, that they have a big belief that the Big East is a really good partner for them."

Translation: Yup, it's true.

There are so many qualifications in Bailey's statement that I lost count of them.

And there is this...this is not a "we're definitely committed to the Big East" sort of statement.

"We are actively monitoring the changing landscape in college athletics and remain committed to making the best long-term decisions for Boise State," a spokesman said.

Hell, it's no secret to any of the prospective new comers, and existing BE members, that the remaining 5 FB schools will announce their intentions to leave as soon as a BCS conference asks them.
I will be surprised if this new BE configuration ever takes hold.

 

[rich1122]

Hell, it's no secret to any of the prospective new comers, and existing BE members, that the remaining 5 FB schools will announce their intentions to leave as soon as a BCS conference asks them.
I will be surprised if this new BE configuration ever takes hold.

But nobody will ask then what?? We'll have a conference and it will be fine.

 

[WhaleEER]

The timing of the Pitt lawsuit makes a lot of sense if Pitt doesn't think teams are coming to the BE for 2013.

 

[Srqhusky]

Would not be surprised if they are in negotiations with the big 12

 

[NHUConnfan]

I agree Boise St. is a phenomenon that will end once the coaching staffs clear out. San Diego St. has always been a plus athletics program. I'm less concerned about them. They're not a great athletics school, but they definitely are a lot better than some of the other options the BE was looking at earlier.

 

[gioff23]

I agree Boise St. is a phenomenon that will end once the coaching staffs clear out. San Diego St. has always been a plus athletics program. I'm less concerned about them. They're not a great athletics school, but they definitely are a lot better than some of the other options the BE was looking at earlier.

Isn't BSU on their 3rd staff over the last 10 or so years - meaning, this phenomenon has survived coaching staff changes, twice.

 

[Carl Spackler]

The success of Boise St. football has elevated football as a sport out there so much that College of Idaho is considering re-instating a football program after 50 years out.

THere's an article in the business section of the NY TImes today mostly focused on Ohio universities, but representative of higher education everywhere. Athletics and academics have always been the yin and yang in education, but in today's world, where schools are having to really change the way they look at making and spending money - athletics, and the ability to generate and drive revenue streams is more important than ever.....and football is the revenue machine.

 

[businesslawyer]

The success of Boise St. football has elevated football as a sport out there so much that College of Idaho is considering re-instating a football program after 50 years out.

THere's an article in the business section of the NY TImes today mostly focused on Ohio universities, but representative of higher education everywhere. Athletics and academics have always been the yin and yang in education, but in today's world, where schools are having to really change the way they look at making and spending money - athletics, and the ability to generate and drive revenue streams is more important than ever.....and football is the revenue machine.

No. That's just not right.

How much of the article was about football? You know why it was about the financial position of universities without dwelling on athletics? Because in almost no instances does greater athletic revenue filter down and provide a profit that is used by the rest of the university. When athletic departments make more, they raise salaries and otherwise spend more, so that they can make more, so that ....

I am not saying strong athletic programs have no effect on a university. They do. But, to use the most recent example, FSU getting $3M a year in additional revenue will simply lead to increased athletic department spending. It will not allow one class to be maintained or one tuition increase to be deferred.

 

[jrazz12]

No. That's just not right.

How much of the article was about football? You know why it was about the financial position of universities without dwelling on athletics? Because in almost no instances does greater athletic revenue filter down and provide a profit that is used by the rest of the university. When athletic departments make more, they raise salaries and otherwise spend more, so that they can make more, so that ....

I am not saying strong athletic programs have no effect on a university. They do. But, to use the most recent example, FSU getting $3M a year in additional revenue will simply lead to increased athletic department spending. It will not allow one class to be maintained or one tuition increase to be deferred.

To back your post up, look what Florida did with their computer science department just a few weeks ago

 

[upstater]

Isn't BSU on their 3rd staff over the last 10 or so years - meaning, this phenomenon has survived coaching staff changes, twice.

Second

 

[upstater]

The success of Boise St. football has elevated football as a sport out there so much that College of Idaho is considering re-instating a football program after 50 years out.

THere's an article in the business section of the NY TImes today mostly focused on Ohio universities, but representative of higher education everywhere. Athletics and academics have always been the yin and yang in education, but in today's world, where schools are having to really change the way they look at making and spending money - athletics, and the ability to generate and drive revenue streams is more important than ever.....and football is the revenue machine.

Do you realize what a tiny fraction of the budget these things are? Schools lose money on athletics, not make money. Only 14 schools turned a profit last year.

 

[Duncan Idaho]

Isn't BSU on their 3rd staff over the last 10 or so years - meaning, this phenomenon has survived coaching staff changes, twice.

Boise State has with the exception of 80's has been playing good football since they were a JC right after WWII. They have won at every level. What they are now is a result of decades of football being their signature sport.