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Which player is having a better year?

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ZenConn said:
If one of the players is RJ, the charges drawn stat should be there - a hustle stat that doesn't really show up in a stat sheet but surely determines an outcome of a game. That guy is a warrior.
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Love this post!
 
navery12 said:
Has there been a single person who's made this comparison?
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OkaForPrez said:
if AJ Price is a member of "and friends" than yes, I'm inviting that conversation.
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I don't recall reading anyone claim that Cole is as good as Kemba or Bazz were. I get the feeling, though, that some posters would include him in the top tier if asked to classify our point guards into strata with the top category being "best ever."
 
McLovin said:
Something not mentioned in here... both of those stat lines are fantastic for 2 blind guys.

Edit: It's been pointed out that this joke has already been made. Sorry @CL82 . I guess that just makes it ironic I missed that......
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They are both good. That is all.
 
OkaForPrez said:
if AJ Price is a member of "and friends" than yes, I'm inviting that conversation.
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It's a bad one, though. :)

AJ's points are as low as they are because he was playing with much higher talent. Put AJP on this team and he'd average 18-20 ppg or so.

I like RJ, but he's not in that conversation.
 
OkaForPrez said:
Okay, 26 votes in an I'm impatient. Overwhelming vote is for Player A whom everyone likely intuited as RJ even though I incorrectly shorted his rebounds per game.

Player B?

Well that's AJ Price in 2009.

Discuss.
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How about Player C?

14.5 PPG (.437 FG%), 5.8 Assists, 3.5 Rebounds, 1.3 Steals, 2.4 Turnovers

(That's Player B in 2007-08.)
 
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Brochacho said:
RJ Cole wouldn’t play on the 2009 team. I’d kill to have 4 guards like Price, Kemba, Dyson and Austrie.

RJ Cole is an absolute dawg and my favorite player on this team, except for Whaley.
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Are we sure Austrie was better than Cole is?
 
One of the greatest of all time? No, probably not - but will he be remembered? Abso-friggin-lutely. And there is still room for him to climb that mountain this year or even possibly next however unlikely.
 
Huskybass said:
I never thought of Austrie as a "star", but rather a solid role player. I would consider Cole a star.
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Cole isn't a star, but he'd take all of Austrie's minutes and with him as our 3rd/4th guard they'd have beaten MSU in the Final Four (Kemba had an epically bad game).
 
tzznandrew said:
Cole isn't a star, but he'd take all of Austrie's minutes and with him as our 3rd/4th guard they'd have beaten MSU in the Final Four (Kemba had an epically bad game).
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You really don't consider a guy who averages 16.4 points and 4.9 assists while playing great D and drawing numerous charges a star? He leads the team in scoring, assists, steals, and drawing charges. That Seems like a fitting tag to me. I would certainly say that Sanogo and Cole are the stars of this team.
 
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The point that will settle this debate:

Which guard is/was better at the no-look pass?
 
Huskybass said:
You really don't consider a guy who averages 16.4 points and 4.9 assists while playing great D and drawing numerous charges a star? He leads the team in scoring, assists, steals, and drawing charges. That Seems like a fitting tag to me. I would certainly say that Sanogo and Cole are the stars of this team.
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Not every team has a star. If Sanogo stays healthy, he's a star. Jackson has star potential.

Cole is a good player averaging more than is best for the team because it needs him to. He's a very good player.

I'm sure we're quibbling on definition. But not every 16-5 player is a star. College basketball doesn't have that many stars.
 
Brochacho said:
RJ Cole wouldn’t play on the 2009 team. I’d kill to have 4 guards like Price, Kemba, Dyson and Austrie.

RJ Cole is an absolute dawg and my favorite player on this team, except for Whaley.
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If RJ were on the 2009 team it would be Austrie that wasn't playing, and Kemba's minutes would be down.
 
tzznandrew said:
Not every team has a star. If Sanogo stays healthy, he's a star. Jackson has star potential.

Cole is a good player averaging more than is best for the team because it needs him to. He's a very good player.

I'm sure we're quibbling on definition. But not every 16-5 player is a star. College basketball doesn't have that many stars.
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To me, if a guy is good enough to receive all conference consideration he is worthy of the star tag. I'm guessing if the season plays out well, Cole will likely be on one of the all conference teams or at least be honorable mention. I think coaches around the conference would refer to Cole as a star. Cole was voted to the All Big East Preseason 2nd Team, for whatever that's worth.

Guys like Rip, Shabazz, Ray etc.are on a whole different level, and recieved All-American consideration or were All-Americans. Perhaps big star or superstar is fitting for them.

I'd be curious to see who has averaged 16 points and 5 assists for UConn. I'm guessing we both would consider them stars in retrospect. For example, when Dyson was averaging similar numbers he was considered a star.
 
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I like, but you need full season stats to allow for any regression or progression… unless those stats are 15 games into the season for aj
 
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SubbaBub said:
AJ in 09 had a lot less to do in terms of scoring than RJ does. AJ had to hit the big shots, RJ isn't quite there. AJ takes the ball to the hole himself last night unitl we are up 15 and don't need to sweat the late 3's by the Johnnies.

AJ was better and that team was better, but I still like this team a lot and RJ a lot. He is by far the best transfer we ever had.
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I’d have loved to see Purvis play with more talent under Hurley. His time here is underrated on the boneyard. He was just asked to do too much.
 
Huskybass said:
You really don't consider a guy who averages 16.4 points and 4.9 assists while playing great D and drawing numerous charges a star? He leads the team in scoring, assists, steals, and drawing charges. That Seems like a fitting tag to me. I would certainly say that Sanogo and Cole are the stars of this team.
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Those are two very different things. I've been the star in a number of pickup games involving a bunch of 30+ 5'10" guys and suffice it to say I ain't no star. Every MLB team gets an All-Star but that doesn't make every player picked a star. It just means they're one of the best guys on their team. As @tzznandrew pointed out, this may be just semantics. But I do think there's a difference between being a star of a team and a star.

He's shooting 39% and 33% from 3. He's a bit of a volume scorer. I'm no hater -- as you can see from the post right above this one, I like RJ and think he'd play on our best teams. But while he's one of the two most valuable players on this team, let's not get carried away based on counting stats.
 
Huskybass said:
To me, if a guy is good enough to receive all conference consideration he is worthy of the star tag. I'm guessing if the season plays out well, Cole will likely be on one of the all conference teams or at least be honorable mention. I think coaches around the conference would refer to Cole as a star. Cole was voted to the All Big East Preseason 2nd Team, for whatever that's worth.

Guys like Rip, Shabazz, Ray etc.are on a whole different level, and recieved All-American consideration or were All-Americans. Perhaps big star or superstar is fitting for them.

I'd be curious to see who has averaged 16 points and 5 assists for UConn. I'm guessing we both would consider them stars in retrospect. For example, when Dyson was averaging similar numbers he was considered a star.
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By your standard there are like 60 (at 10 players for the P6 conferences) stars in college basketball, and I think that's just not the case.

Dyson was never a star in my eyes. Stars are both part of the team but transcend them.
 
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nomar said:
I'm sure that it's the other way around, and that it's not even close.

And I'm not overrating Cole here, mind you. But he's a good, mature player.

The notion that senior RJ Cole wouldn't be earning rotation minutes on any of our teams is ridiculous, IMO.
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I’m so glad I’m not the only one. Not to knock Austrie, but no part of me would want to trade RJ Cole for him.
 
AntG168 said:
I’d have loved to see Purvis play with more talent under Hurley. His time here is underrated on the boneyard. He was just asked to do too much.
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Purvis played with decent talent
RB , Hamilton , Brimah , Facey
2014-15 NIT junior year
JA , Hamilton Gibbs,Miller , Brimah his senior year 25 wins AAC tournament champs and NCAA round of 32 , 2015-16
JA, CV, Facey, Brimah, Jackson , Larriet , and Gilbert . His Post grad
Injury plagued year.
JA other then his freshman year was stuck with key injuried or garbage players .
 
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navery12 said:
RJ Cole is a star. Just because he's not as big of a star as some of our other PGs doesn't mean he's not a star
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Agreed. He just has glaring weaknesses in finishing at the rim and isolation scoring, and unfortunately we are in a spot where we ask him to do both. He’s still very efficient, and on a team with a good scoring 2/3 (like Shackelford if he chose Bama over UConn), he’d probably be putting up gaudy numbers.
 
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