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speedoo said:
Did you give this any thought before that response? Did you consider the fact that women's basketball is UConn's premier program now and for the foreseeable future? That Geno is the premier coach in the country? Do you really think that Herbst and Manuel see the program as insignificant, even if women's basketball generally, outside of UConn, is insignificant?

How long would the program stay at the top in a league that absolutely sucks? Three or four years if we are lucky.
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WBB is "UConn's premier program" only if you are in the Depends crowd.
 
MBB the goose that laid the golden egg. We must protect the goose.

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upstater said:
What does UConn have in common with a bunch of small Catholics? Superior academics? Schools like PC and St. John's show absolutely no compunction in taking on at-risk players.
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I'd be careful throwing stones because of academic performance. Our disiplinary history isn't the greatest either.
 
Danzz said:
I'd be careful throwing stones because of academic performance. Our disiplinary history isn't the greatest either.
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It's not throwing stones. The only reason academics are ever a concern in this game is when the opposition takes better players that you're not allowed to take. So there's no concern here that the Catholics have higher standards than the others.

And I'm not sure what you mean by disciplinary.
 
minidarren said:
Don't act like that is because of anything this administration has done. You might as well throw the 2013 attendance record right out the window. Ticket sales will be at an all time high solely because of the Michigan game. Don't fool yourself into thinking things are getting better. After we get waxed this year and miss another bowl game we will be lucky to have 20k in the stands for 2014.

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i understand that attendance is a function of success and competition. we have two potential top 10 teams coming in along with a top 25 in rutgers. sdsu is an unknown.
our attendance will go up...

you can debate 'why' all you want, but in the end its the number that counts.

ps... i havent seen next season yet. are you one of those who yells out whats going to happen in theaters as wel?
 
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speedoo said:
Did you give this any thought before that response? Did you consider the fact that women's basketball is UConn's premier program now and for the foreseeable future? That Geno is the premier coach in the country? Do you really think that Herbst and Manuel see the program as insignificant, even if women's basketball generally, outside of UConn, is insignificant?

How long would the program stay at the top in a league that absolutely sucks? Three or four years if we are lucky.
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wbb is different. there is such a gap between the top programs i dont think conferences are as vital.
the top teams alwaysseem to play each other: stanford, tenn, nd, baylor more recently.
outside of uconn and nd, does any other league have more than one top 10 team?
 
Marty Jackson said:
wbb is different. there is such a gap between the top programs i dont think conferences are as vital.
the top teams alwaysseem to play each other: stanford, tenn, nd, baylor more recently.
outside of uconn and nd, does any other league have more than one top 10 team?
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Actually, there are FOUR conferences with two teams in the top 10: BE, UConn and ND; ACC, Duke and MD; SEC, Tenn and Kentucky, and Pac 12, Stanford and Cal.

So there may not be as much of a gap as you think, and I think conference strength is just as important in WBB as in men's. When ND goes to the ACC, UConn will lose the only conference rival that has been a challenge in the last 4-5 years.
 
Marty Jackson said:
i understand that attendance is a function of success and competition. we have two potential top 10 teams coming in along with a top 25 in rutgers. sdsu is an unknown.
our attendance will go up...

you can debate 'why' all you want, but in the end its the number that counts.

ps... i havent seen next season yet. are you one of those who yells out whats going to happen in theaters as wel?
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What?

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speedoo said:
I think conference strength is just as important in WBB as in men's. When ND goes to the ACC, UConn will lose the only conference rival that has been a challenge in the last 4-5 years.
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It's not as important. Especially where Uconn is concerned. ESPN is still going ot show their marquee non conference games. The women are going to have bright shiny new practice facility that Geno can use to recruit and most other schools can't compete with that. And the fans will still show up - they didnt mind watching Uconn win by 30+ points most nights so why would they care if it was 40 or 50? Most of our women's games are not competitive and that wont change. SNY is still going to show them. Conference affiliation is nowhere near as important as with the men....not even close.
 
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minidarren said:
What?

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I think he's talking about next season specifically - Michigan and Louisville.

The why matters. If people show up to see the team you are playing - when you aren't playing them anymore it gets ugly fast.
 
whaler11 said:
I think he's talking about next season specifically - Michigan and Louisville.

The why matters. If people show up to see the team you are playing - when you aren't playing them anymore it gets ugly fast.
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you mean like 'success'...
Thanks for cluing me in.
 
Marty Jackson said:
you mean like 'success'...
Thanks for cluing me in.
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You can't have real success in CUSA 2.0. Beating a bunch of third rate programs like Temple, Tulane and Memphis isn't going to get anyone excited.
 
DW4UCONN said:
There is no rosy picture for UCONN FB right now. I simply feel we have to grab the best scenario going forward and I hope it includes the C7 for our overall success.
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This isn't 1980 where hoops has a huge. Now BCS runs college sports and not being part of it means UConn would be better off in a 1-AA football program than in the MAC playing crappy schools. The C-7 will never be what they hope it will. It will be a nice conference with a couple of good teams and a bunch of so so programs. No I don't want UConn on either of those roads but going forward with the NNBE and seeing what happens. Because those other two roads are losers when all is said and done.
 
Chief00 said:
Whats an interesting sidebar to me is that there seems to be a split between big ego Warde and others in power or who have influence at UConn. While Warde will go to games at exotic locations he isn't foremost an AD with a basketball interest - he is a football guy at a mediocre level. While the Catholic league is not perfect it beats current alternatives for basketball and the things we all want appear to be a reach given the current people in power networks, influence, effectiveness and work ethic.
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I actually think there might be an internal game going on here. In fact I think this is a lot more likely than some of the other theories like that this is a shot across the bow of the NBA on a grant of rights or that it is some kind of mis-direction. I suspect that there are some within the UConn administration and especially among the alumni/supporter community that just can't fathom the idea that basketball will be stuck in a mid-major conference and are trying to push the issue. Of course they miss the fact that it isn't 1984 any more and St Johns basically stinks, Providence stinks, Depaul is awful, Seton Hall is a joke and Al Maguire retired from Marquette in 1978...Plus I suspect there is still some upset that they didn't get their guy as the AD.
 
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nelsonmuntz said:
So you are saying that the conference situation is bad. Interesting.
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Well since he didn't seem to understand it seemed like a good time to point it out.
 
President Herbst reaffirms today that UConn is committed to moving forward with fine like minded universities such as Temple, Memphis and Houston. She says I should be happy about it:(
 
DW4UCONN said:
President Herbst reaffirms today that UConn is committed to moving forward with fine like minded universities such as Temple, Memphis and Houston. She says I should be happy about it:(
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Don't worry, be happy.

....what am I talking about?!

EVERYBODY PANIC!!!!!
 
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DW4UCONN said:
President Herbst reaffirms today that UConn is committed to moving forward with fine like minded universities such as Temple, Memphis and Houston. She says I should be happy about it:(
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Yeah liked minded, as in ‘Get me the hell out of this conference as soon as possible.’
 
freescooter said:
I actually think there might be an internal game going on here. In fact I think this is a lot more likely than some of the other theories like that this is a shot across the bow of the NBA on a grant of rights or that it is some kind of mis-direction. I suspect that there are some within the UConn administration and especially among the alumni/supporter community that just can't fathom the idea that basketball will be stuck in a mid-major conference and are trying to push the issue. Of course they miss the fact that it isn't 1984 any more and St Johns basically stinks, Providence stinks, Depaul is awful, Seton Hall is a joke and Al Maguire retired from Marquette in 1978...Plus I suspect there is still some upset that they didn't get their guy as the AD.
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I don't know, I look at the top 25 in bball today and at least the C7 has Marquette(25). Butler and VCU have been mentioned as additions, that would give them two more. No NBE teams to be found. It probably won't happen but my choice would be to play football in the NBE or MWC and keep all other sports with the C7.
 
I used to think that independence in football was a stupid idea. That was until I saw the number being tossed around for the C7 TV deal. Now I feel that if we can't make more money in the nbe than in the C7 we just need to go with them and do whatever it takes. If we can play football with the nbe or mwc, fine. mac and cusa aren't options. If we have to be independent, then so be it. Our football schedule really can't get much worse than it will be in the nbe and at least our hoops schedule would consist of many of our traditional rivals and some other good programs.

UConn has to do what's best for UConn overall. We can't kill the basketball program just to keep football in a mediocre conference. Assuming the C7 would even entertain our membership, I think we really need to go for it. They would know that we would leave when we got an invite from a power conference and I'm sure we could work provisions for that into our contract.

I think that UConn and Cincy would also be helpful in procuring the Big East name, tournament credits, exit fees, and facilitating an exit for next season.
 
HartbeatHusky said:
I used to think that independence in football was a stupid idea. That was until I saw the number being tossed around for the C7 TV deal. Now I feel that if we can't make more money in the nbe than in the C7 we just need to go with them and do whatever it takes. If we can play football with the nbe or mwc, fine. mac and cusa aren't options. If we have to be independent, then so be it. Our football schedule really can't get much worse than it will be in the nbe and at least our hoops schedule would consist of many of our traditional rivals and some other good programs.

UConn has to do what's best for UConn overall. We can't kill the basketball program just to keep football in a mediocre conference. Assuming the C7 would even entertain our membership, I think we really need to go for it. They would know that we would leave when we got an invite from a power conference and I'm sure we could work provisions for that into our contract.

I think that UConn and Cincy would also be helpful in procuring the Big East name, tournament credits, exit fees, and facilitating an exit for next season.
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The problem with independence is the fact that you are going to have an extremely difficult time scheduling opponents after mid-October, due to the other teams starting their conference play. For instance, New Mexico State and Idaho have to play each other twice this coming year because they can't find anyone else to play against. That sucks donkey ba!!s!

Also, the NBE football teams are probably better than you think they are. Here are the Sagarin ratings for our future conference foes:

Cincy - 36
UCF - 45
*Tulsa - 47
SMU - 57
Navy - 82
ECU - 84
USF - 86
(UConn - 89, for point of reference)
Temple - 100
Houston - 108
Memphis - 123
Tulane - 155

The bottom portion of the league stinks, no doubt about it. But the top is pretty good. And you are able to schedule your OOC as tough as you possibly can anyways, so you can still bring in teams like Michigan, Tennessee, etc. But the last thing you want to do is end up playing two 1-AA teams and twice against UMass! Contrary to your belief, it is the football team that cannot be forgotten about, not the basketball team. The basketball team will always be able to schedule quality OOC, but the football may not. And at the end of the day, it is the football and not the basketball that decides where we end up in terms of conferences....
 
Glastonhusky said:
I don't know, I look at the top 25 in bball today and at least the C7 has Marquette(25). Butler and VCU have been mentioned as additions, that would give them two more. No NBE teams to be found. It probably won't happen but my choice would be to play football in the NBE or MWC and keep all other sports with the C7.
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Cincy beat Marquette today. There's a school called UConn that is pretty good. USF beat Georgetown.
 
Will the NBE ever happen?
UConn,Cinn, Houston,and possibly SMU don't seem real interested.
If you were a TV company would you sigh these guys on.
It may be ugly but there are worse things than the NBE that can happen to us.
 
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