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nelsonmuntz said:
We know what Blaney can do, and most of that is bad. This was a guy who was a lifer at Holy Cross until he finally found a "big time" program willing to take him, Seton Hall. He then proceeded to not only suck, but his best recruit was a rapist.

I don't know what Blaney is on the staff because I can't see what he does behind the scenes. I also don't know why Blaney is the acting Head Coach, except in this case I can see a lot of what he does, and most of it is bad. I really wouldn't care if Miller, Hobbs or Ollie were the acting HC, as long as it isn't Blaney.
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You know one fact -- that Calhoun thinks Blaney should be coaching in Calhoun's absence. Is Calhoun infallible? Of course not. But is the smart money on you being right on this or Calhoun?

Blaney was an outstanding coach at Holy Cross. Period. Both by record and what people thought of him. And Holy Cross was at a higher level then than it is now. (Probably A-10 equivalent.) He was no more than fair at Seton Hall, and certainly failed in the program's eyes, but there are certainly good reasons why coaches aren't likely to succeed at Seton Hall.
 
businesslawyer said:
You know one fact -- that Calhoun thinks Blaney should be coaching in Calhoun's absence. Is Calhoun infallible? Of course not. But is the smart money on you being right on this or Calhoun?

Blaney was an outstanding coach at Holy Cross. Period. Both by record and what people thought of him. And Holy Cross was at a higher level then than it is now. (Probably A-10 equivalent.) He was no more than fair at Seton Hall, and certainly failed in the program's eyes, but there are certainly good reasons why coaches aren't likely to succeed at Seton Hall.
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Slow down, he made the NCAA tournament three times at Holy Cross and won 0 games in the tournament. They played in the ECC, MAAC and Patriot League, not exactly the ACC.

Blaney took over in 1972:

Following the team's championsip years in the 1950s, the Crusaders have been ranked only occasionally by the Associated Press. After appearing in 65 of 116 total weekly polls (56%) in the 1950s, the Crusaders appeared in only 5 of 126 weekly polls (4%) in the 1960s and 9 of 148 (6%) in the 1970s. The Crusaders have not been ranked nationally since 1977.

Is he your grandfather?
 
HeGotGame said:
Slow down, he made the NCAA tournament three times at Holy Cross and won 0 games in the tournament. They played in the ECC, MAAC and Patriot League, not exactly the ACC.

Blaney took over in 1972:

Following the team's championsip years in the 1950s, the Crusaders have been ranked only occasionally by the Associated Press. After appearing in 65 of 116 total weekly polls (56%) in the 1950s, the Crusaders appeared in only 5 of 126 weekly polls (4%) in the 1960s and 9 of 148 (6%) in the 1970s. The Crusaders have not been ranked nationally since 1977.

Is he your grandfather?
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Are you serious? You think there was a 68 team tournament those years? You think A-10 schools are routinely ranked? He was a good coach. Find someone who covered New England basketball in the 70s and early 80s who didn't think he was a good coach and then talk to me. Instead of trying to reinvent that career a generation later.

And yes -- anyone who disagrees with ludicrous crap thrown at a good individual must have skin in the game. God forbid there are people who just think you should make sure you are correct before blasting another human being.
 
businesslawyer said:
You know one fact -- that Calhoun thinks Blaney should be coaching in Calhoun's absence. Is Calhoun infallible? Of course not. But is the smart money on you being right on this or Calhoun?

Blaney was an outstanding coach at Holy Cross. Period. Both by record and what people thought of him. And Holy Cross was at a higher level then than it is now. (Probably A-10 equivalent.) He was no more than fair at Seton Hall, and certainly failed in the program's eyes, but there are certainly good reasons why coaches aren't likely to succeed at Seton Hall.
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That is a good assessment. Blaney was well respected at Holy Cross. In fact, he did a pretty nice job of reviving the Holy Cross program which was struggling in the later years of Jack Donahue's tenure. Donahue was a good coach, I think but his teams never could quite get over th ehump against first BC during the Cousy years, they Providence, and UMass and UCONN.
 
The program was in the dumps until Willard took over. Even if he was a "good" coach in the 70s and 80s you seem to think that is relevant now. It is not. Do you want to hire Rollie Massimino? The game has changed.

Anyone who has a clue about basketball could tell you that his coaching over this stretch has been terrible. I am not saying he is bad person, I am sure he is a great guy, but if my best friend worked for me and could not get the job done I wouldn't sit here and ignorantly defend his job performance while my company went down the shitter.
 
HeGotGame said:
The program was in the dumps until Willard took over. Even if he was a "good" coach in the 70s and 80s you seem to think that is relevant now. It is not. Do you want to hire Rollie Massimino? The game has changed.

Anyone who has a clue about basketball could tell you that his coaching over this stretch has been terrible. I am not saying he is bad person, I am sure he is a great guy, but if my best friend worked for me and could not get the job done I wouldn't sit here and ignorantly defend his job performance while my company went down the ****ter.
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Well, if I by your definition don't know anything about basketball why in the world are you engaging me?

He is not whom I would hire to be UConn's coach. I am not claiming that he is today the same coach he was when at Holy Cross. I am merely saying that there is mot likely a reason Calhoun has handed him, and not Lefty, KO or Hobbs, the reigns, and that in any event George Blaney is not really coaching the team -- he is babysitting it. Which, given his track record, there is no reason to doubt he is capable of doing.

It is Jim Calhoun's team, and it is playing pretty much the same unfortunate way it was playing while Jim Calhoun is on the bench.
 
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It is Jim Calhoun's team, and it is playing pretty much the same unfortunate way it was playing while Jim Calhoun is on the bench.[/quote]


With Calhoun coaching we lost 5 games, 3 without Boatright. The loses with Boat were to ND and GTown, pretty good teams.

Blaney has lost 5 games already, all with Boatright, to teams like Seton Hall and Ruty.

Not sure how that is the same????? But hey he is a good guy so why question he is ability to "babysit"
 
Blaney is probably just JC's little Massachusett's binkey who gives him the warm and fuzzies as the ying to his yang. Well this yang ain't meant to be the head of the dragon at a top tier D1 program - at this point probably better off in a pair of yellow slacks with a 9 iron down in Palm Beach.
 
HeGotGame said:
Slow down, he made the NCAA tournament three times at Holy Cross and won 0 games in the tournament. They played in the ECC, MAAC and Patriot League, not exactly the ACC.

Blaney took over in 1972:

Following the team's championsip years in the 1950s, the Crusaders have been ranked only occasionally by the Associated Press. After appearing in 65 of 116 total weekly polls (56%) in the 1950s, the Crusaders appeared in only 5 of 126 weekly polls (4%) in the 1960s and 9 of 148 (6%) in the 1970s. The Crusaders have not been ranked nationally since 1977.

Is he your grandfather?
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I think you have no idea what you're talking about. In a time when it was much tougher to get to the NCAA tournament, there were only 32 teams in 1977, Blaney got Holy Cross there for the first time in 21 years. Yeah, they lost, but unlike today's seeding, they ended up against the favorite, Michigan in the first round. That wouldn't have been the matchup in the "modern" tournament, either. Seeding actually began the following year. Prior to that teams were assigned mostly by geography with some modifications for balance, to avoid playing on your home court (Rupp arena was a venue so Kentucky played in the East that year and holy Cross was sent to play in Rupp). he got back 2 additional times, in 1980 in a 48 team format and 1993 by which the 64 team field had been established. he also went to a bunch of NITs when the NIT still meant something. And he did it at a time when Holy Cross, under Fr. Brooks, was de-emphasising athletics.
 
freescooter said:
I think you have no idea what you're talking about. In a time when it was much tougher to get to the NCAA tournament, there were only 32 teams in 1977, Blaney got Holy Cross there for the first time in 21 years. Yeah, they lost, but unlike today's seeding, they ended up against the favorite, Michigan in the first round. That wouldn't have been the matchup in the "modern" tournament, either. Seeding actually began the following year. Prior to that teams were assigned mostly by geography with some modifications for balance, to avoid playing on your home court (Rupp arena was a venue so Kentucky played in the East that year and holy Cross was sent to play in Rupp). he got back 2 additional times, in 1980 in a 48 team format and 1993 by which the 64 team field had been established. he also went to a bunch of NITs when the NIT still meant something. And he did it at a time when Holy Cross, under Fr. Brooks, was de-emphasising athletics.
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How did Blaney do at Seton Hall?
 
Mr.Phat said:
No, Calhoun should seriously reach out to Brad Stevens. With no head coaching experience Ollie is as positioned to take over this program as you and I are. Turn Ollie loose to gain head coaching experience and come and see us in six years. He might end up doing as well as Leitao or Hobbs. Which will simply reinforce the need for Stevens or someone like him.
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Except for a few differences: You and I didn't play Div 1 college basketball and spend a dozen years in the NBA runing the offense. College is a lot more about recruiting than x's and o's.
Ollie deserves a shot even if he only has a 2 year window.
 
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well at least we can all agree that "Calhoun should seriously reach out to Brad Stevens" is probably one of the stupidest posts we've seen here in recent history.
 
nelsonmuntz said:
Villanova is limping in without their best player in a lost season. If Blaney screws this up, Calhoun has to seriously look at giving Ollie the reins. While the last month has been horrendous, UConn still has a solid tournament resume and has the #1 SOS in the country. This season is slipping away, and I think Blaney has gotten way more leash than he deserves because he is Calhoun's buddy. I think Blaney was a mistake from the start, and I have not seen a single thing to prove that wrong.

In his prime, Blaney was a below average game coach, and he is well past his prime. I think his adjustments are terrible, he never calls any kind of offensive play, he is incapable of stopping negative momentum, the team looks lost, and they don't seem to respect him like they should. When the coach is on ice, the 72 year old short timer assistant has to work a little harder to light a fire under everyone. Blaney is barely awake.

Ollie should have been the head coach from the beginning of Calhoun's injury. Everyone within 3 degrees of separation from the program knows Ollie runs practices and basically has all year. He commands respect with his resume and he has more fire than anyone else wearing a suit on that bench. He isn't Calhoun, but who is? Certainly not Blaney.
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We might need Calipari to come in a rebuild us after the NCAA gets their pound of flesh.
 
Jaker said:
I have no confidence in Ollie either, Uconn needs to start recruiting a top coach for next season. I doubt Calhoun coaches next year.
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Would you care to share with the rest of us: "Exactly why you don't have any confidence in Ollie?"

Peace,

John Fryer
 
I'm not sure whether I would or wouldn't anoint KO, assuming that's JC wants, or do an outside search, but the answer to the last question seems obvious -- until someone has proven that they are a good college basketball coach at some level, isn't it fair not to have confidence in them?
 
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John,

How did kevin Ollie do in his last head coaching gig? did he get his team to the conference championship game? the NCAA tournament? Oh wait...he hasn't had any head coaching experience! that I think is the issue. Do you want to turn the program over to a guy who has never coached a game at any level? I say no. I happen to think that UCONN is a big enough name that we don't have to do that.
 
businesslawyer said:
I'm not sure whether I would or wouldn't anoint KO, assuming that's JC wants, or do an outside search, but the answer to the last question seems obvious -- until someone has proven that they are a good college basketball coach at some level, isn't it fair not to have confidence in them?
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What if they have proven that they are a terrible game coach?

I am not talking about the future, I am talking about the next three games and the BET. Blaney is a disaster on the bench. Wright spent 45 minutes coaching circles around Blaney, and if Wright had a team that could win an all-campus intramural championship, he would have beaten Blaney and his 3-4 future NBA'ers by 10+. Within about a 6 minute stretch in the last 10 minutes of regulation, UConn got caught in 4 double teams at the top of the key off dribble penetration with no outlet for the dribbler. WTF!!!!!!!!!?????????? That is unacceptable for a coach of a team of 8 year olds, much less the interim coach of a defending National Championship. Wright must have been laughing his ass off at Blaney's stupidity.

Blaney was never that good a coach, and now he is just a mess. I don't care if it is Miller, Hobbs or Ollie. Hell, I would let Dogmania call the plays. ANYONE BUT BLANEY!!!!
 
Calhoun is smarter than all of you, if he does indeed say Ollie is the guy when he retires, then why question it? Do you really think Calhoun wants to see UConn go down the drain after putting in 26+ years of hard work, all because he likes a guy? No.
 
nelsonmuntz said:
What if they have proven that they are a terrible game coach?

I am not talking about the future, I am talking about the next three games and the BET. Blaney is a disaster on the bench. Wright spent 45 minutes coaching circles around Blaney, and if Wright had a team that could win an all-campus intramural championship, he would have beaten Blaney and his 3-4 future NBA'ers by 10+. Within about a 6 minute stretch in the last 10 minutes of regulation, UConn got caught in 4 double teams at the top of the key off dribble penetration with no outlet for the dribbler. WTF!!!!!!!!!?????????? That is unacceptable for a coach of a team of 8 year olds, much less the interim coach of a defending National Championship. Wright must have been laughing his ass off at Blaney's stupidity.

Blaney was never that good a coach, and now he is just a mess. I don't care if it is Miller, Hobbs or Ollie. Hell, I would let Dogmania call the plays. ANYONE BUT BLANEY!!!!
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My suggestion for coach would be to go with Calhoun in a wheelchair pushed around by Blaney. How awesome would it be if the teams comes out of the tunnel without the coaches and then JC comes flying out in a chair pushed by Jonathan! We couldn't lose.
 
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