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Big Ten Conference Season Tip -off. Who's #1?

Dillon77 said:
Two match-ups on Big Ten Network tonight (Tuesday, Jan. 9, 2024) featuring teams with somewhat similar records:

- At 6 p.m. ET
Maryland (10-4) vs. Michigan State (11-3)

- At 8 p.m. ET
(Minnesota 11-3 vs. Michigan 11-4)
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Here's how I see these games for all teams involved.

Maryland: Can they gain some consistency and get on a streak?

Michigan State: How do they bounce back from a tough loss? Are they that much improved to beat Maryland?

Minnesota: Can they match up against Michigan and take the win at home?

Michigan: Which team do we see tonight?
 
cancontent said:
Here's how I see these games for all teams involved.

Maryland: Can they gain some consistency and get on a streak?

Michigan State: How do they bounce back from a tough loss? Are they that much improved to beat Maryland?

Minnesota: Can they match up against Michigan and take the win at home?

Michigan: Which team do we see tonight?
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Maryland is a good team except for rebounding which they are terrible at. MSU has a good shot at home.

Like Indiana, Michigan is very well coached. I like them alot in this game.
 
cancontent said:
Here's how I see these games for all teams involved.

Maryland: Can they gain some consistency and get on a streak?

Michigan State: How do they bounce back from a tough loss? Are they that much improved to beat Maryland?

Minnesota: Can they match up against Michigan and take the win at home?

Michigan: Which team do we see tonight?
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Minnesota game is at Michigan.

MSU is the betting-line favorite tonight at home against Maryland. Interesting. The NET/analytics like MSU (big margins of victory against bad teams), but they have beaten nobody, other than PSU missing Marisa.

RPI/ELO rank MSU much lower, and RPI (per Warren Nolan) has Maryland as the slight favorite tonight. With a weekend game at Ohio State, seems like MSU has a lot riding on the line tonight. A loss tonight would drop MSU to 1-3 in the conference, with two home losses.
 
TerpWomenFan said:
Maryland is a good team except for rebounding which they are terrible at. MSU has a good shot at home.

Like Indiana, Michigan is very well coached. I like them alot in this game.
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Yes, Michigan is well coached but they've also have had some puzzling performances against teams they should/could have beaten (e.g. Toledo and Florida). That's what I mean regarding which team will we see.
 
cancontent said:
Here's how I see these games for all teams involved.

Maryland: Can they gain some consistency and get on a streak?

Michigan State: How do they bounce back from a tough loss? Are they that much improved to beat Maryland?

Minnesota: Can they match up against Michigan and take the win at home?

Michigan: Which team do we see tonight?
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All four of these teams I would consider at-large teams, if not top 25.

Michigan State played well at Iowa but needs to continue to back up their surprisingly high NET ranking.
 
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cancontent said:
Here's how I see these games for all teams involved.

Maryland: Can they gain some consistency and get on a streak?

Michigan State: How do they bounce back from a tough loss? Are they that much improved to beat Maryland?

Minnesota: Can they match up against Michigan and take the win at home?

Michigan: Which team do we see tonight?
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Let's review:

1) Maryland played well overall but lost to a gritty Michigan State team.

2) Michigan State bounced back and closed out a tough game of runs against Maryland.

3) Yes, they can match up against Michigan, on the road (my bad). Heck, they took it to Michigan and punched them in the mouth if you ask me.

4) Michigan started off well and was going back and forth with Minnesota. Don't know if Brett's injury had a mental effect, but they weren't the same afterwards.
 
cancontent said:
4) Michigan started off well and was going back and forth with Minnesota. Don't know if Brett's injury had a mental effect, but they weren't the same afterwards.
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The Brett injury surely had some effect. Michigan went from up 1 to losing by 16. But credit to Minnesota for catching absolute fire in 4Q; they could hardly miss.

I'd say Grocholski wrapped up Big Ten FOW already: she scored 16 of MN's 29 points in the fourth quarter.
 
Minnesota is playing some pretty good basketball this season. Michigan is a confusing team. They played really well against Ohio State a few weeks ago and then play Indiana and Minnesota without that same energy they had against Ohio State. I was watching that Minny/Michigan game and Minnesota just got hot in that 4th quarter. Great game and win for Minnesota.
 
JellyBean said:
Minnesota is playing some pretty good basketball this season. Michigan is a confusing team. They played really well against Ohio State a few weeks ago and then play Indiana and Minnesota without that same energy they had against Ohio State. I was watching that Minny/Michigan game and Minnesota just got hot in that 4th quarter. Great game and win for Minnesota.
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Michigan is the slowest paced team in the BIG, which is a good matchup for Minnesota. Hart, Grocholski and Heyer can struggle in transition, but Michigan seldom pushes the pace.
 
cancontent said:
Let's review:

1) Maryland played well overall but lost to a gritty Michigan State team.

2) Michigan State bounced back and closed out a tough game of runs against Maryland.

3) Yes, they can match up against Michigan, on the road (my bad). Heck, they took it to Michigan and punched them in the mouth if you ask me.

4) Michigan started off well and was going back and forth with Minnesota. Don't know if Brett's injury had a mental effect, but they weren't the same afterwards.
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"Gritty" is an apt word for Fralick's version of the Spartans. She had Bowling Green with similar verve last year when I saw them a few times.
 
According to Raoul, Joe McKeown will miss his third straight game due to illness.
Joe's had a rough couple of seasons since Veronica Burton graduated, but wish good health to any- and everyone.
Get better, Joe.

 
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JellyBean said:
Looking forward to that Indiana/Iowa match this weekend. That is going to be a huge game for us Big Ten fans.
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Fingers crossed weather doesn't postpone the game but it's looking like that may be possible. Per this post below, Indiana aren't scheduled to fly out until later this afternoon.

The comments in response to the post are wild however. Trip planning isn't a cut and dry issue for these teams. For fans to insinuate Indiana is trying to suck Iowa is a stretch if you ask me.

 
cancontent said:
. . . Trip planning isn't a cut and dry issue for these teams. For fans to insinuate Indiana is trying to duck Iowa is a stretch if you ask me.

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Agree, especially because lower attendance game Sat. Night would be good for IU. Still, IU could have bused yesterday when a plane was unavailable until this afternoon.
 
BigTenGuy said:
Agree, especially because lower attendance game Sat. Night would be good for IU. Still, IU could have bused yesterday when a plane was unavailable until this afternoon.
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Is that the situation though? Don't know the full story.

Impression I got was that they planned to fly from the start. At the same time, there could have been reasons why they didn't bus (e.g. commitments they couldn't reschedule, etc.).
 
cancontent said:
Is that the situation though? Don't know the full story.

Impression I got was that they planned to fly from the start. At the same time, there could have been reasons why they didn't bus (e.g. commitments they couldn't reschedule, etc.).
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What they are saying is the weather issue was know for days now, they should have left yesterday or this morning. If the plane wasn't available its not uncommon for teams to take alternate transportation to get to a game earlier than expected.
 
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hoopsnloops32 said:
What they are saying is the weather issue was know for days now, they should have left yesterday or this morning. If the plane wasn't available its not uncommon for teams to take alternate transportation to get to a game earlier than expected.
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1). The previous post noted a plane wasn't available and I asked if that was the situation. You're "explanation" basically regurgitates the previous posts comment which was what I was asking clarification on. If they were scheduled to leave earlier by plane, then say so.

2). Per my following sentence there also could have been reasons why they couldn't leave earlier.
 
cancontent said:
1). The previous post noted a plane wasn't available and I asked if that was the situation. You're "explanation" basically regurgitates the previous posts comment which was what I was asking clarification on. If they were scheduled to leave earlier by plane, then say so.

2). Per my following sentence there also could have been reasons why they couldn't leave earlier.
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But planes aren't the only way to travel is the point. If the plane wasn't available, take a bus, which used to be the normal way to travel. Clearly the players were available to travel last night, they could have found a different mode of transportation. Yes much longer but not unrealistic.
 
cancontent said:
Thanks. This fills in some of the gaps I was trying to clarify.
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hoopsnloops32 said:
But planes aren't the only way to travel is the point. If the plane wasn't available, take a bus, which used to be the normal way to travel. Clearly the players were available to travel last night, they could have found a different mode of transportation. Yes much longer but not unrealistic.
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Okay - let's try this again.

1). Per the post from @BigTenGuy, they tried to move up their flight. That was the question about whether a plane was available has been answered. That was the initial question which you opted to overlook when you initially responded.

2). I'm fully aware that buses are an alternative. My point was that there could have been reasons why. An education on the history of transportation isn't required as part of your lecture about logic, planning, etc., because their way of handling things isn't to your liking.
 
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Bjbod said:
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IUWBB @ Iowa - Saturday, 01.13.24 @ 8:00 ET on Fox TV

Hopefully our struggle against PSU was because we were anticipating this game. We cannot afford to get off to a sluggish start and have to dig ourselves out of a hole. And hopefully Chloe isn't slowed by any ankle problems. Stream Radio Live Stats
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IUWBB now planning on leaving Bloomington Saturday at 10 AM EST.
Edit: Sorry, page down to end of thread.
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Appreciate the update.
 
The previous posts here make me glad Baylor elected to stay in the midwest after their game versus Kansas in Lawrence. Not sure if they flew or bused to Ames yesterday. Think it was their plan all along but looks smart in lieu of the dual storms that hit Iowa.
 
ISUnorth said:
The previous posts here make me glad Baylor elected to stay in the midwest after their game versus Kansas in Lawrence. Not sure if they flew or bused to Ames yesterday. Think it was their plan all along but looks smart in lieu of the dual storms that hit Iowa.
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Just saw this post and it brought your reply to mind. This is unfortunate for the BIG12 as they lose a national game. It's bad enough the nation didn't get to see Baylor-ISU. Imagine Hilton after that win with a nationally televised game.

 
cancontent said:
Just saw this post and it brought your reply to mind. This is unfortunate for the BIG12 as they lose a national game. It's bad enough the nation didn't get to see Baylor-ISU. Imagine Hilton after that win with a nationally televised game.

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Ha, just tried to grab it on ESPN+ and the 5:00 than 6:00 is now a 7:15 game. Dat blizzard.
 
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