Big East Standings

[Tenspro2002]

One game left. We're far and away #1.

2. Creighton 13-6 (@Nova)
3. Marquette 13-6 (@Xavier)
4. Seton Hall 12-7 (vs. DePaul)

Seton Hall will win.

If Creighton and Marquette both win, Seton Hall is #4.
If Creighton and Marquette both lose, Seton Hall is #4.
If Creighton loses and Marquette wins, Seton Hall is #4.
If Creighton wins and Marquette loses, Marquette is #4. This is the scenario we want to avoid.

For #5, Villanova, St. John's, and Providence are tied at 10-9, and I think none of them control their own destiny, though St. John's has the inside track. St. John's is very likely to beat Georgetown at home. Villanova hosts Creighton. We are at Providence.

If any one of them wins, but the other two lose, they get it.

If all 3 win or lose, it's St. John's.
If St. John's wins, Villanova wins, but Providence loses, it's St. John's.
If St. John's wins, Villanova loses, but Providence wins, it's Providence's.

I think I would prefer SH as the #4 and Nova as the #5, in which case we're rooting for Marquette and Nova to win and for St. John's to lose (unlikely).

 

[aburks41]

The key is having Marquette and Creighton on the other side of the bracket so basically we just need Marquette to beat Xavier and nothing else matters, right?

 

[Austin316]

Here is a good website to use predictive seeding based on remaining games

mred's Big East MBB Tournament Seeding Tiebreaker

Big East Conference Men's Basketball Tournament Seeding and Tiebreakers

bball.notnothing.net

 

[HeGotGame]

If Kenpom projections for the games hold, its SH/SJ in the 4/5 match up.

 

[Tenspro2002]

The key is having Marquette and Creighton on the other side of the bracket so basically we just need Marquette to beat Xavier and nothing else matters, right?

Yeah that's the most important thing.

We need Marquette to win. Or, if they lose, we want Creighton to lose too.

The #5 seed is less important. I didn't even get into the #8/9 seed, which is likely to be Butler/Xavier, but one of the 10-9 teams has a chance to fall into that game.

 

[aburks41]

Yeah that's the most important thing.

We need Marquette to win. Or, if they lose, we want Creighton to lose too.

The #5 seed is less important. I didn't even get into the #8/9 seed, which is likely to be Butler/Xavier, but one of the 10-9 teams has a chance to fall into that game.

Butler/Xavier as our 8/9 seed would definitely be ideal

 

[HeGotGame]

The big wrinkle would be PC beating us and X beating Marq, that sets up a PC/Marq game in the 4/5 matchup

 

[Chin Diesel]

One game left. We're far and away #1.

2. Creighton 13-6 (@Nova)
3. Marquette 13-6 (@Xavier)
4. Seton Hall 12-7 (vs. DePaul)

Seton Hall will win.

If Creighton and Marquette both win, Seton Hall is #4.
If Creighton and Marquette both lose, Seton Hall is #4.
If Creighton loses and Marquette wins, Seton Hall is #4.
If Creighton wins and Marquette loses, Marquette is #4. This is the scenario we want to avoid.

For #5, Villanova, St. John's, and Providence are tied at 10-9, and I think none of them control their own destiny, though St. John's has the inside track. St. John's is very likely to beat Georgetown at home. Villanova hosts Creighton. We are at Providence.

If any one of them wins, but the other two lose, they get it.

If all 3 win or lose, it's St. John's.
If St. John's wins, Villanova wins, but Providence loses, it's St. John's.
If St. John's wins, Villanova loses, but Providence wins, it's Providence's.

I think I would prefer SH as the #4 and Nova as the #5, in which case we're rooting for Marquette and Nova to win and for St. John's to lose (unlikely).

Announcers said last night after the win Seton Hall is locked in to #4. I fully concede announcers are sometimes wrong and I did zero fact checking of their statement.

 

[UConnTrumbull]

Yeah that's the most important thing.

We need Marquette to win. Or, if they lose, we want Creighton to lose too.

The #5 seed is less important. I didn't even get into the #8/9 seed, which is likely to be Butler/Xavier, but one of the 10-9 teams has a chance to fall into that game.

Seems like an easy hedge bet. Take creighton and seton hall to win, Marquette to lose parlay.

Although seton hall to beat DePaul is a given so really just creighton marquette parlay.

 

[Chin Diesel]

One game left. We're far and away #1.

2. Creighton 13-6 (@Nova)
3. Marquette 13-6 (@Xavier)
4. Seton Hall 12-7 (vs. DePaul)

Seton Hall will win.

If Creighton and Marquette both win, Seton Hall is #4.
If Creighton and Marquette both lose, Seton Hall is #4.
If Creighton loses and Marquette wins, Seton Hall is #4.
If Creighton wins and Marquette loses, Marquette is #4. This is the scenario we want to avoid.

For #5, Villanova, St. John's, and Providence are tied at 10-9, and I think none of them control their own destiny, though St. John's has the inside track. St. John's is very likely to beat Georgetown at home. Villanova hosts Creighton. We are at Providence.

If any one of them wins, but the other two lose, they get it.

If all 3 win or lose, it's St. John's.
If St. John's wins, Villanova wins, but Providence loses, it's St. John's.
If St. John's wins, Villanova loses, but Providence wins, it's Providence's.

I think I would prefer SH as the #4 and Nova as the #5, in which case we're rooting for Marquette and Nova to win and for St. John's to lose (unlikely).

Here is a good website to use predictive seeding based on remaining games

mred's Big East MBB Tournament Seeding Tiebreaker

Big East Conference Men's Basketball Tournament Seeding and Tiebreakers

bball.notnothing.net

According to the link, if all 3 finish 13-7, SHU is still #4.

If you run a scenario where Nova and SH are both 12-8, Nova gets the four and SHU the five.

Biggest thing is Marquette and Creighton are locked in at 2/3 (regardless of order) and will be on opposite side of the bracket from UConn.

 

[Tyler2Rings]

I want to play St John's in the semi, Rick Pitino in a white suit, the whole shebang.

 

[HuskyAlum012]

Announcers said last night after the win Seton Hall is locked in to #4. I fully concede announcers are sometimes wrong and I did zero fact checking of their statement.

Definitely not true. They have a chance to top Marquette since their h2h is 1-1 and Hall has a win against us but Marq doesnt.

 

[navery12]

According to the link, if all 3 finish 13-7, SHU is still #4.

If you run a scenario where Nova and SH are both 12-8, Nova gets the four and SHU the five.

Biggest thing is Marquette and Creighton are locked in at 2/3 (regardless of order) and will be on opposite side of the bracket from UConn.

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Not true, if Marquette loses and Seton Hall and Creighton both win then Marquette drops to the 4 seed

 

[NJHusky]

I want to play St John's in the semi, Rick Pitino in a white suit, the whole she-bang.

FIFY

 

[Chin Diesel]

Definitely not true. They have a chance to top Marquette since their h2h is 1-1 and Hall has a win against us but Marq doesnt.

Not true, if Marquette loses and Seton Hall and Creighton both win then Marquette drops to the 4 seed

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And this is why I don't trust the media or the internet. Or myself.

 

[kobebeanbryant]

Interested in how the 8/9 tiebreaker shakes out.

If my review of tiebreaker rules is correct, seems like it could go to a coin flip (X, PC, SJ, Nova all split head to head).

 

[auror]

Yeah our win over Marquette last night gave SHU a chance at the 3.

 

[05Alum]

Here is a good website to use predictive seeding based on remaining games

mred's Big East MBB Tournament Seeding Tiebreaker

Big East Conference Men's Basketball Tournament Seeding and Tiebreakers

bball.notnothing.net

Is game two of the semi's really on FX1 and not Fox?

 

[Storrs South]

Is game two of the semi's really on FX1 and not Fox?

Yes. In the past both semifinals games were on FS1 and only the Final was on FOX. This year they moved up both semi final games an hour and gave the first game of two the FOX treatment. The first semifinal game is the lead into Friday WWE Smackdown, which is why game two moves to FS1.

 

[Ports21]

If Kenpom projections for the games hold, its SH/SJ in the 4/5 match up.

Fun game for a neutral

 

[kobebeanbryant]

Interested in how the 8/9 tiebreaker shakes out.

If my review of tiebreaker rules is correct, seems like it could go to a coin flip (X, PC, SJ, Nova all split head to head).

Disregard, I missed that Nova swept PC.

If X can manage to beat Marquette (without Kolek), then they could hop PC.

So we could still potentially get PC in the quarterfinal.