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Tiamat7 said:
Once a Husky, always a Husky. Kevin is a great guy. However, let's be honest: Ollie caught lightning in a bottle with Calhoun's players. Then he destroyed the UConn program over the next few years due to some combination of incompetence, transfers (rapport with players?), injuries (not his fault, but some people in the Boneyard blamed the Strength and Conditioning Coach who reported to Ollie), and lack of effort on the recruiting trail (due in part to reported personal issues).

The comparison to Neptune isn't accurate, but I do understand why the OP made the claim. The end of their tenures--Neptune is surely gone soon--is eerily similar.
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KO recruited nearly every one of those players for JC and the program while an assistant and those kids would run through a wall for KO.
DH couldn't recruit in the AAC - even with the Hurley name.
Get a life son and move on.
 
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UC1995 said:
When Ollie backhanded Terrance Samuel at the end of a game interview for whatever reason (to energetic) you could see the cracks forming between him and that 2014-15 team.

I wonder if anyone else remembers that because that is how I remember him which is too bad.
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You are misremembering. TSam was famous for photo bombing post game interviews and that was Ollie's playful response. When they beat MSU to reach the Final Four Ollie had TSam "slap" him to make sure he wasn't dreaming.

This was all in the 2013-14 season which had some of the best chemistry of any UConn team
 
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gtcam said:
KO recruited nearly every one of those players for JC and the program while an assistant and those kids would run through a wall for KO.
DH couldn't recruit in the AAC - even with the Hurley name.
Get a life son and move on.
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"Get a life son?" Sensitive a bit, Dad? This always happens when anyone on here laments the fact that Ollie ran this program into the ground.

I clearly said the comparison to Neptune is not accurate. But the OP's focus on the last three years does have merit.
 
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nelsonmuntz said:
Talking through this, Kevin Ollie would be the perfect replacement for Neptune, right now. Villanova needs to get tougher, get confident, and play defense. Ollie can address those issues right away. The players will respect him, which matters because Neptune looks scared and I don’t imagine his players respect him.

Ollie had a mixed record offensively, but he wouldn’t have time to install his grindy offense if he was a mid season replacement. It is a bad idea to tank a season in the transfer portal era, so Villanova needs to do something.
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Not knocking Ollie as a UCONN player or his early coaching years.

If a school wants to bring in Ollie to coach the defense and drive the players I only see that as an assistant. To me the last few years he didn't seem to have the drive, determination and enthusiasm to coach a big time program. He seemed to be able to relate to players as an assistant and was a valuable part of the UCONN staff as an assistant.

I believe he could bring value to a program as an assistant if he wants to go that route.

Not everyone's personality suits being the head honcho whether in business, sports, the military etc.
 
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nelsonmuntz said:
Kevin Ollie won a NATIONAL CHAMPIONSHIP with a team that is one of the weakest teams to win a National Championship in the last 40 years, and he beat a Murderer's Row of coaches to do it. So comparing every bad coach in college basketball to Kevin Ollie is ridiculous. This board just needs to stop doing it.

And the program got led off the cliff by the financial decision to stay in the AAC to collect the exit fees from the previous departures, which the school acknowledged was a bad decision for the athletic program by subsequently leaving the AAC. I did not object to Kevin Ollie getting fired at the end of his tenure, but do not lay all the realignment fallout at his feet.
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AGAIN, not the original topic. You are being purposely evasive about admitting that it's not. You are far too emotional about KO to be objective enough to even follow what is being discussed. You just see red making any discussion pointless. Accomplishments were not being compared. Just "THE END" was compared. I acknowledged him winning #3 and that there is good and bad. The team was dreadful and within touching distance of the AAC basement when he was fired. That is what was being compared to Neptune. Not the why it may or may not have happened or his accomplishments at UConn or what he did later as an NBA coach. You are the only one trying to expand the topic and making it about that. I'm done.
 
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ctbro1999 said:
Just when DePaul finally looks to be not horrendous for once, Nova has to go "Hold my beer!".
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A big city, major conference school like Depaul should be able to put together decent NIL and be a solid program in the new era. Chicago produces lots of high level D1 players. Between keep a few of them home, and bringing a few back that were not high D1 when they graduated high school but are there heading into the junior year after 2 seasons in the MAC or MVC, Depaul should have a solid talent pipeline and be competitive.

I don't know the story behind the WinTrust Arena, but why did Depaul build an arena in 2017 that was 20 minute drive and 35 minutes train ride from campus? I believe there has been recent development near the river on the north side, so they should have been able to find space closer to campus, and Lincoln Park is a lot cooler neighborhood than near the convention center.
 
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nelsonmuntz said:
Kevin Ollie won a NATIONAL CHAMPIONSHIP with a team that is one of the weakest teams to win a National Championship in the last 40 years, and he beat a Murderer's Row of coaches to do it. So comparing every bad coach in college basketball to Kevin Ollie is ridiculous. This board just needs to stop doing it.

And the program got led off the cliff by the financial decision to stay in the AAC to collect the exit fees from the previous departures, which the school acknowledged was a bad decision for the athletic program by subsequently leaving the AAC. I did not object to Kevin Ollie getting fired at the end of his tenure, but do not lay all the realignment fallout at his feet.
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Plus the program inherited problems, punishments and suspensions from Calhoun’s tenure. I love Calhoun and all he did and KO carries blame but we have to at least be honest about that.
 
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UC1995 said:
When Ollie backhanded Terrance Samuel at the end of a game interview for whatever reason (to energetic) you could see the cracks forming between him and that 2014-15 team.

I wonder if anyone else remembers that because that is how I remember him which is too bad.
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I gotta say it's a little strange that your seminal recollection of the downfall of the Ollie era is completely out to lunch. That was a pretty obvious "the vibes are good" moment.
 
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nelsonmuntz said:
I don't know the story behind the WinTrust Arena, but why did Depaul build an arena in 2017 that was 20 minute drive and 35 minutes train ride from campus?
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I remember Frank the Tank talking about that building on the CR board back then. It sounded like nobody wanted it except the developer and some politicians.
 
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nelsonmuntz said:
A big city, major conference school like Depaul should be able to put together decent NIL and be a solid program in the new era. Chicago produces lots of high level D1 players. Between keep a few of them home, and bringing a few back that were not high D1 when they graduated high school but are there heading into the junior year after 2 seasons in the MAC or MVC, Depaul should have a solid talent pipeline and be competitive.

I don't know the story behind the WinTrust Arena, but why did Depaul build an arena in 2017 that was 20 minute drive and 35 minutes train ride from campus? I believe there has been recent development near the river on the north side, so they should have been able to find space closer to campus, and Lincoln Park is a lot cooler neighborhood than near the convention center.
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Yeah, at the least you'd think they would have been able to at least field .500 teams in an area as talent rich as Chicago. But to be the complete train wreck they've been for the last couple decades, minus a couple seasons....dang.
 
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