Big East OOC thread '25/'26

[shizzle787]

3-1 tonight. Held serve again.

Winners: UConn, Providence, and DePaul

Loser: Villanova

Overall: 74-31 (17-25)

 

[KingAG]

You’re welcome BE Conference

 

[gsmooth]

I'm glad BYU won. It helps UConn's resume and we will need it with how bad the big east is this year.

100%. I was going for BYU the entire game.

 

[3rdbass]

100%. I was going for BYU the entire game.

Yeah I was surprised when I saw they were down 21 to Clemson at HT and with Villanova getting blown out that would be horrible for UConn.

 

[nelsonmuntz]

Yeah I was surprised when I saw they were down 21 to Clemson at HT and with Villanova getting blown out that would be horrible for UConn.

Michigan is very good.

 

[3rdbass]

Michigan is very good.

Yeah I know but still a bad look for he Big East.

 

[nelsonmuntz]

Yeah I know but still a bad look for he Big East.

Best team in Big 10 easily beats middle of pack Big East team = bad for Big East

Best team in Big East easily beats top quartile Big 10 team = No big deal for Big 10

Do i have this right?

 

[FightOnCT]

Yes because the Big East needs as many quality wins as possible right now. Losing any one game is all the more hurtful even if it is an expected loss like Michigan.

We all know UConn is doing its job, and Illinois unlike Villanova has other quality wins that support its case. Nova’s last chance is Wisconsin before conference play.

 

[RuffRuff]

Yes because the Big East needs as many quality wins as possible right now. Losing any one game is all the more hurtful even if it is an expected loss like Michigan.

We all know UConn is doing its job, and Illinois unlike Villanova has other quality wins that support its case. Nova’s last chance is Wisconsin before conference play.

Nova just needed to play that game tough - they were down 30 at the half. It's Uconn and everyone else at this point. We needed StJ to make at least a little noise and they haven't. I don't see one tourney team in the league other than us and StJ. Anyone else getting in is a product of default.

 

[superjohn]

Nova just needed to play that game tough - they were down 30 at the half. It's Uconn and everyone else at this point. We needed StJ to make at least a little noise and they haven't. I don't see one tourney team in the league other than us and StJ. Anyone else getting in is a product of default.

We actually don't need anyone else to do anything.

 

[shizzle787]

We actually don't need anyone else to do anything.

I disagree. We need the league to hold serve the rest of the way. I assume Marquette will lose to Purdue, DePaul will lose to Wichita State, and Villanova will lose to Wisconsin, but the other 13 games need to go our way to guarantee four bids and give 5 bids 50/50 odds.

 

[RuffRuff]

We actually don't need anyone else to do anything.

Totally agree.

 

[RuffRuff]

I disagree. We need the league to hold serve the rest of the way. I assume Marquette will lose to Purdue, DePaul will lose to Wichita State, and Villanova will lose to Wisconsin, but the other 13 games need to go our way to guarantee four bids and give 5 bids 50/50 odds.

Why does it even matter at this point? With our OOC showing, pretty sure the committee keeps us in a good spot if we can run through the BE.

 

[shizzle787]

Why does it even matter at this point? With our OOC showing, pretty sure the committee keeps us in a good spot if we can run through the BE.

Possibly, but I don't like to take chances. IMO, for us to get a #1 seed, we need to beat Texas, win the BET, and go 17-3 or better in the league. To get the #1 overall seed, we can only afford to drop one (maybe two) game max the rest of the way.

Keep in mind, Duke is also likely going to saw through the ACC (which albeit improved, is still not that good) so they will likely be a #1 seed. That leaves two spots for the SEC, Big 12, and Big Ten to get a #1 seed.

 

[shizzle787]

NET update:

UConn (7)- 1 game left
St. John's (23)- 3 games left
Villanova (37)- 2 games left
Seton Hall (39)- 1 game left
Butler (43)- 2 games left

Providence (95)- done
Creighton (100)- 2 games left
Xavier (105)- 1 game left
Georgetown (121)- 2 games left
Marquette (169)- 1 game left
DePaul (171)- 1 game left


This is arguably the most crucial weekend of the OOC.

Friday slate (must go 2-0)

UConn vs. Texas
Xavier vs. Missouri State

Saturday slate (must go 5-2: St. John's, Georgetown, Creighton, Nova, and Seton Hall are must wins)

St. John's vs Iona
DePaul @ Wichita State
Marquette @ Purdue
Georgetown vs. St. Peter's
Creighton vs. Kansas State
Villanova vs. Pitt
Seton Hall vs. Rutgers

League game: Butler vs. Providence (need a Butler win)

 

[RuffRuff]

Possibly, but I don't like to take chances. IMO, for us to get a #1 seed, we need to beat Texas, win the BET, and go 17-3 or better in the league. To get the #1 overall seed, we can only afford to drop one (maybe two) game max the rest of the way.

Keep in mind, Duke is also likely going to saw through the ACC (which albeit improved, is still not that good) so they will likely be a #1 seed. That leaves two spots for the SEC, Big 12, and Big Ten to get a #1 seed.

My guess is:

Michigan
Duke
UConn
Big12 winner - AZ/ISU/Houston

I also think it will be well recognized that we played a lot of the 5-1 without two key players if we ratchet up.

 

[shizzle787]

P4 games remaining (we are 17-25 currently)- we need to finish 23-27 or better

UConn vs. Texas (12/12)
Marquette @ Purdue (12/13)
Creighton vs. Kansas State (12/13)
Villanova vs. Pittsburgh (12/13)
Seton Hall vs. Rutgers (12/13)
Villanova @ Wisconsin (12/19)
St. John's vs. Kentucky (Atlanta) (12/20)
Butler vs. Northwestern (12/20)

The two road games I think we lose, but there is a strong case to be made that we can win the other six and achieve the goal.

Mid-major game

DePaul @ Wichita State (12/13)

Don't need to win this one, but it would be a plus if we do.

Cupcake games remaining

Xavier vs. Missouri State (12/12)
St. John's vs. Iona (12/13)
Georgetown vs. Saint Peter's (12/13)
Butler vs. NJIT (12/22)
Georgetown vs. Coppin State (12/22)
Creighton vs. Utah Tech (12/22)
St. John's vs. Harvard (12/23)

Need to go 7-0 here.

If we go 6-2 against the P4 and 7-0 against the cupcakes, we will secure 4 bids minimum barring some weird scenario like 2023.
At 87-34, that would give us a 50/50 shot of landing 5 teams.

 

[controlfade]

Possibly, but I don't like to take chances. IMO, for us to get a #1 seed, we need to beat Texas, win the BET, and go 17-3 or better in the league. To get the #1 overall seed, we can only afford to drop one (maybe two) game max the rest of the way.

Keep in mind, Duke is also likely going to saw through the ACC (which albeit improved, is still not that good) so they will likely be a #1 seed. That leaves two spots for the SEC, Big 12, and Big Ten to get a #1 seed.

UCONN prolly have the easiest path of anyone based on the conference. The Big10 and 12 have some really strong teams.

My guess is:

Michigan
Duke
UConn
Big12 winner - AZ/ISU/Houston

I also think it will be well recognized that we played a lot of the 5-1 without two key players if we ratchet up.

Michigan has MSU 2x, at Purdue, at Illinois, Duke and a pretty decent UCLA team.

Ariziona and Iowa State have brutal schedules Feb/march

Arizona has this stretch - at kansas, texas tech, BYU, at Houston, at Baylor, Kansas, Iowa State

Iowa St has - at TCU, kansas, houston, at BYU, at Utah, texas tech, at arizona

Houston's schedule is a bit more balanced they do have a 3 game stretch in late feb - at Iowa St, Arizona, at Kansas


best games we have left are the 2 against St Johns and Texas

def looks like at this point winner of Big 10 and 12 should earn a 1

 

[temery]

UCONN prolly have the easiest path of anyone based on the conference.

Nope. Nope. Nope. It's way too early for that type of karma killer.

 

[controlfade]

not meant to be karma killer , just the unfortunate truth about the rest of our league. Thank goodness Hurley scheduled the OOC he did. I hope some of these teams blossom with time and make it a tough road.

 

[shizzle787]

Nope. Nope. Nope. It's way too early for that type of karma killer.

Doomed!

 

[shizzle787]

UCONN prolly have the easiest path of anyone based on the conference. The Big10 and 12 have some really strong teams.



Michigan has MSU 2x, at Purdue, at Illinois, Duke and a pretty decent UCLA team.

Ariziona and Iowa State have brutal schedules Feb/march

Arizona has this stretch - at kansas, texas tech, BYU, at Houston, at Baylor, Kansas, Iowa State

Iowa St has - at TCU, kansas, houston, at BYU, at Utah, texas tech, at arizona

Houston's schedule is a bit more balanced they do have a 3 game stretch in late feb - at Iowa St, Arizona, at Kansas


best games we have left are the 2 against St Johns and Texas

def looks like at this point winner of Big 10 and 12 should earn a 1

Texas is a Quad 2 game. Butler, Seton Hall, St. John's, and Nova will all be Quad 1 road games. If Providence moves up about 20 spots, they will be too. Texas is very important but it will ultimately be a Quad 2 game.

 

[FfldCntyFan]

A lot of the posters on this site are soft.

 

[RuffRuff]

UCONN prolly have the easiest path of anyone based on the conference. The Big10 and 12 have some really strong teams.



Michigan has MSU 2x, at Purdue, at Illinois, Duke and a pretty decent UCLA team.

Ariziona and Iowa State have brutal schedules Feb/march

Arizona has this stretch - at kansas, texas tech, BYU, at Houston, at Baylor, Kansas, Iowa State

Iowa St has - at TCU, kansas, houston, at BYU, at Utah, texas tech, at arizona

Houston's schedule is a bit more balanced they do have a 3 game stretch in late feb - at Iowa St, Arizona, at Kansas


best games we have left are the 2 against St Johns and Texas

def looks like at this point winner of Big 10 and 12 should earn a 1

Yeah, Big10 does have some good teams (Purdue, MSU, Illinois), but I think UM is that much better and has already built a big lead in the metrics. They are built to pound Purdue & Illinois. MSU could be scrappy.

Big12 is great, so I think winner there get a 1 100%. Either of these two leagues could get 2 #1's if we fall back, but I don't think we will. I could see any of AZ, ISU or Houston getting it. Duke feels like a lock already. They do play UM in February.

 

[alexd]

So, we are 4-1 in Q1 games.

The rest of the BE is 3-19. 🤮