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Well we lost that at Xavier game, so...

I won't predict they'll be a final four team, they're ranked in the teens in analytics.
Liam would have made a difference there.

StJ has most definitely played the softer part of their BE schedule up front. They are a very unique team. They have no bench either. Kind of team that can stun finesse teams and just take them out of rythym or get shot off the court.

Them, Houston and Tenn in the F4 would be the maulers classic, might have to bring the national guard in to ref.
 
Well we lost that at Xavier game, so...

I won't predict they'll be a final four team, they're ranked in the teens in analytics.

St. Johns can beat UConn in a single game. KenPom has it 51/49 UConn. I think it is more like 55/45 or 60/40, but not more than that in UConn's favor. That is not what I was arguing.

Teams like St. Johns that play a strange style but have an obvious flaw generally don't go deep in March because opposing coaches have time to gameplan the style and exploit the flaw.
 
Liam would have made a difference there.

StJ has most definitely played the softer part of their BE schedule up front. They are a very unique team. They have no bench either. Kind of team that can stun finesse teams and just take them out of rythym or get shot off the court.

Them, Houston and Tenn in the F4 would be the maulers classic, might have to bring the national guard in to ref.
St. John's didn't have Deivon Smith for their last game against Xavier, he's a pretty awesome 6th man.
 
LOL.
I’m not implying when have to literally shoot that well. I’m talking about our main guys knocking down shots an efficient rate(karaban, ball, McNeeley) , Stewart has been shooting well lately as well. Laugh all you want but we are one of the most efficient teams in the country. This isn’t far fetched.
AND not turn the ball over. The last time we shot that well from 3, on any volume, against any level of competition, was Feb. 2017 against South Florida at home. They finished 292nd in Kempom that year.
“Not turn the ball over” doesn’t mean zero turnover. Come on. It means not turning the ball over 25 times.
 
Lunardi has Xavier first team out. While he’s not gospel, it insists every game they play is do or die on getting in. I think they squeak in with the favorable schedule and getting the s together.

 
I’m not implying when have to literally shoot that well. I’m talking about our main guys knocking down shots an efficient rate(karaban, ball, McNeeley) , Stewart has been shooting well lately as well. Laugh all you want but we are one of the most efficient teams in the country. This isn’t far fetched.

“Not turn the ball over” doesn’t mean zero turnover. Come on. It means not turning the ball over 25 times.
So when you said the shooting we saw at Marquette you meant shooting far worse than we saw at Marquette.

And yes, I'm pretty sure everyone knows the phrase "not turn the ball over" means a limited amount of turnovers, not 0 turnovers. I didn't realize that had to be spelled out.
 
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Liam would have made a difference there.

StJ has most definitely played the softer part of their BE schedule up front. They are a very unique team. They have no bench either. Kind of team that can stun finesse teams and just take them out of rythym or get shot off the court.

Them, Houston and Tenn in the F4 would be the maulers classic, might have to bring the national guard in to ref.

Except now they are winning games in the tougher part of the schedule. Friday night is going to be so huge.
 
Except now they are winning games in the tougher part of the schedule. Friday night is going to be so huge.
Let’s not jump the gun - they beat Marquette at home. Marquette is overrated, and slumping. They barely got by PC at home, was down big to Gtown at home. They barely won at PC. I still don’t see what I’d call a signature win, which to me is a top 4 BE team on road. A win Friday could change that narrative.

They lost at Creighton. Shot 36%.

I want to see them beat us, or win at Marquette, or beat Creighton to feel they are good enough to overcome the awful shooting. They dropped to 340 in the country in 3pt% after last night.

Friday is huge, for both teams. I might even say it’s the biggest BE game in last 3 years given the variables on both sides. It’s Hurley/Pitino, B2B against the new hard charging Jonnie’s and fully resuscitated fanbase. A win by either team amps up the fan-base x100. It legitimizes STJ and it makes the Husky faithful really start believing another run is possible.

If we win and close the gap, it sets up that MSG game up to be a fireball. It would be 7 straight games we beat Pitino (Iona included) and him looking for blood.

This one is going to be close to a pickem too.
 
So when you said the shooting we saw at Marquette you meant shooting far worse than we saw at Marquette.

And yes, I'm pretty sure everyone knows the phrase "not turn the ball over" means a limited amount of turnovers, not 0 turnovers. I didn't realize that had to be spelled out.
No it means our shooters hitting shots at a fairly efficient rate. Karaban, Ball , McNeeley and I’ll throw Stewart in with the way he’s been shooting.

The 60% was heavily skewed by ball going
7-9. He can go 3-9 and that would still have us at 8-19 which is 42%. We shoot our regular efficiency from inside the arc and our regular turnover rate(which will allow us more outside opportunities) and I think we win.
 
St. Johns can beat UConn in a single game. KenPom has it 51/49 UConn. I think it is more like 55/45 or 60/40, but not more than that in UConn's favor. That is not what I was arguing.
The ESPN Predictor gives UConn a 66.3% to win. I have no idea what goes into their analytics but they always seem to have UConn as a higher percentage than the betting spreads would dictate.

 
Liam would have made a difference there.

StJ has most definitely played the softer part of their BE schedule up front. They are a very unique team. They have no bench either. Kind of team that can stun finesse teams and just take them out of rythym or get shot off the court.

Them, Houston and Tenn in the F4 would be the maulers classic, might have to bring the national guard in to ref.
I honestly believe we are undefeated in BE play if we had a healthy McNeeley this whole time, but the fact is we haven't had him, so shruggieguy. That being said, I believe we will actually be a stronger team come March because of how other guys (like Ball, Johnson, etc) have had to step up with McNeeley out. Once he returns and shakes off the rust, I truly think we will be primed for another title run. I'm not nearly as confident we can get back to the Final Four as last year, but we have the talent (assuming everyone's healthy) to get back there.
 
This is a historic game for that program. Jonnie’s fans already have 5 pages worth of posts on Fridays game. How nice it would be to put little brother back in his place.


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Lunardi has Xavier first team out. While he’s not gospel, it insists every game they play is do or die on getting in. I think they squeak in with the favorable schedule and getting the s together.



It isn’t just winning, Xavier has to lay a beating on some of these teams. They have to finish stronger than they did yesterday.

Style points matter.
 
No it means our shooters hitting shots at a fairly efficient rate. Karaban, Ball , McNeeley and I’ll throw Stewart in with the way he’s been shooting.

The 60% was heavily skewed by ball going
7-9. He can go 3-9 and that would still have us at 8-19 which is 42%. We shoot our regular efficiency from inside the arc and our regular turnover rate(which will allow us more outside opportunities) and I think we win.
I forgot how impossible it is to have an actual conversation with you.

"When I said the shooting we saw in Milwaukee, I just meant a regular good shooting game, not actually the shooting we saw in Milwaukee". Good times.
 
I forgot how impossible it is to have an actual conversation with you.

"When I said the shooting we saw in Milwaukee, I just meant a regular good shooting game, not actually the shooting we saw in Milwaukee". Good times.
I’ll ignore the dig and just say touché lol.

Diarra hit a three, karaban hit a 3 and Stewart hit 3. The outlier was Ball. I’m not speaking as much to his outlier performance as I am the other guys knocking down outside shots. I worded the OP poorly.
 
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Holloway might not even be able to keep Isaiah Coleman after this season with the way Seton Hall's season is spiraling
 
I’ll ignore the dig and just say touché lol.

Diarra hit a three, karaban hit a 3 and Stewart hit 3. The outlier was Ball. I’m not speaking as much to his outlier performance as I am the other guys knocking down outside shots. I worded the OP poorly.
Stewart going 3/3 in like 5 minutes entering the game at 33% is a 4% thing.
 
Holloway might not even be able to keep Isaiah Coleman after this season with the way Seton Hall's season is spiraling

I've never seen a team play so listlessly. It wouldn't surprise me if they just decided to forfeit the second half.
 
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Stewart going 3/3 in like 5 minutes entering the game at 33% is a 4% thing.
If you look at his recent game logs. He actually been decent from 3. He doesn’t have to make 2 or 3 in 5 minutes. Just make the one you take. He’s been doing that. His last 5 games he’s 8-13 from 3. Do with that what you will. Going back a couple games further, he had a rough shooting night(0/3) against GTown but was 2-5 against Creighton. Which would make his last 7 game sample size at 10-21, a little under 50% on about 1.5 attempts per game. He’s trending up. Last game wasn’t random.
 
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I've never seen a team play so listlessly. It wouldn't surprise me if they just decided to forfeit the second half.
They’re down 3 starters, their not deep, they just don’t have the talent.
 
They’re down 3 starters, their not deep, they just don’t have the talent.

Thanks. I jumped in late and didn't know about the starters. They're not exactly being helped out by the sparse home crowd either.
 
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This is a historic game for that program. Jonnie’s fans already have 5 pages worth of posts on Fridays game. How nice it would be to put little brother back in his place.


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Villanova, Georgetown qualify as little brothers.

I think PC and the Johnnies are like baby brothers if we are gonna be honest. LOL

Jokes aside,
Its good to see the Johnnies win. Adds excitement to the league and hopefully drives ratings
 
They’re down 3 starters, their not deep, they just don’t have the talent.

The worst part of this game is that Butler is not just burying them.
 
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Difficult to type it, but go PeeCee
Sounds a lot like PeePee if you say it quickly which makes it feel better.

But yeah, a win here would really help our cause.

At Nova, at Xavier and at PC are the trifecta of games that may define who wins the league. Creighton has their gauntlet starting here, as next three games against top of the league.
 
How does Creighton losing help us? Don’t we want more games against quality opponents? Providence is a lost cause.
 
How does Creighton losing help us? Don’t we want more games against quality opponents? Providence is a lost cause.
In terms of run to win BE regular season.

The quality opponent thing doesn’t matter - we play both again, relative.
 
In terms of run to win BE regular season.

The quality opponent thing doesn’t matter - we play both again, relative.

Maybe from a metrics perspective the game doesn’t matter, but fewer Quad 2 losses would be good, and from a perception standpoint, coming out of a 3 bid league will hurt UConn in seeding.
 
They’re down 3 starters, their not deep, they just don’t have the talent.
I was expecting you to close with something like, "The best you can say about them us that they're small, but they're slow."
 
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