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Dressing up is a means of showing those who work for you, those who employ you and everyone else in the room that you take what you are doing very seriously. Is this a big deal? No. Do I expect the world to move to more casual clothing as we move away from time in offices post-Covid? Yes. But that doesn’t mean I have to like it.

I remember at summer camp a head counselor putting on a dress shirt and tie to coach a big game once. In an environment where people didn’t even have them in their closets. No amount of words could have more clearly stated that HE was taking this game incredibly seriously and asking us if we were as well.
 
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businesslawyer said:
Dressing up is a means of showing those who work for you, those who employ you and everyone else in the room that you take what you are doing very seriously. Is this a big deal? No. Do I expect the world to move to more cauual clothing as we move away from time in offices post-Covid? Yes. But that doesn’t mean I have to like it.

I remember at summer camp a head counselor putting on a dress shirt and tie to coach a big game once. In an environment where people didn’t even have them in their closets. No amount of words could have more clearly stated that HE was taking this game incredibly seriously and asking us if we were as well.
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I’m in the suit camp. Looks more professional and portrays a sense of confidence.
 
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It’s about time. Now let’s trash that relic for almost every other event as well. Weddings and funerals maybe and that’s it. Why on earth are people still wearing something that is (a) expensive (b) impractical and restrictive (c) uncomfortable and (d) a relic of the European upper classes. it’s a wonder some of you don’t want Hurley coaching in a powdered wig. Suits are an abomination, especially at sporting events. Ties are from the devil. I’m leaving instructions that I will not be buried in a damned suit.

A nice 1/4 zip with a t-shirt underneath, cotton pants and sneakers. Perfect for coaching and just about anything else this time of year.
 
'it's an easy victory.'
long ago, one day in manhattan, pops sez 'we have some time, let's go visit with abe ribicoff.' a family pal dating back to war days, with great gramps all up in that ribicoff, kennedy, johnson, and bailey, force majeur dominating the national scene, i'd heard all the tales of the battle, with great rallies and such, yet one thing aboot him always fascinated me - he always had a fresh extra shirt, and sometimes an extra fresh suit as well, as i heard it. sooo, chatting aboot stuff in his high rise office, i had to ask him. looking quite natty sitting as his desk, even tho old and frail, i say sumthin like 'u look good, and i hear that u always were dressed to the nines, and always carried back-up. why is that? i even heard that you never wore a sport coat, always a suit?'
'it's an easy victory (or sumthin like that).
anytime you attend a meeting, or even a small gathering, if you appear smartly dressed, the audience will give you opening respect before you even say a word. people come with all kinds of opinions and expectations when they first meet someone, particularly if that person is asking you to vote for them. why not look your best?'
he pulled open a desk drawer, and took out a folded shirt, in the wrapper, fresh from the cleaners, and held it up. lesson learned, forever.
dress for the situation is aboot as good an advice as it gets.
the whole all-black, stretchy pants, and uber slovenly look so common these days, particularly in certain big cities, is nothing more than a whole pantload of folks giving up on their battle of the bulge, and thinking no one notices.
and, oh, a tie is absolutely no hassle when you wear the correctly sized collar for ur shirt. just becuz u wore a 16 1/2 neck in olden days has nothing to do with being an 18 now. i wear overalls and italian silk suits. dress for the occasion. it's an easy victory.
 
businesslawyer said:
Dressing up is a means of showing those who work for you, those who employ you and everyone else in the room that you take what you are doing very seriously. Is this a big deal? No. Do I expect the world to move to more cauual clothing as we move away from time in offices post-Covid? Yes. But that doesn’t mean I have to like it.

I remember at summer camp a head counselor putting on a dress shirt and tie to coach a big game once. In an environment where people didn’t even have them in their closets. No amount of words could have more clearly stated that HE was taking this game incredibly seriously and asking us if we were as well.
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ok boomer
 
businesslawyer said:
Dressing up is a means of showing those who work for you, those who employ you and everyone else in the room that you take what you are doing very seriously. Is this a big deal? No. Do I expect the world to move to more cauual clothing as we move away from time in offices post-Covid? Yes. But that doesn’t mean I have to like it.

I remember at summer camp a head counselor putting on a dress shirt and tie to coach a big game once. In an environment where people didn’t even have them in their closets. No amount of words could have more clearly stated that HE was taking this game incredibly seriously and asking us if we were as well.
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I think it’s a perception that isn’t grounded in reality and hasn’t been in decades. You’re not that much older than me. I recall wearing wool suits to walk to the courthouse in the Kansas City summer. Miserable and pointless. Then I moved to Silicon Valley in 96 and that was the end of that. Golf shirts and khakis, sometimes shorts. But those people were taking their work very seriously. Our lead EY auditor told me they were told by every client, no jackets, no ties, it’s not welcome.

Suits are elitist. Most young people starting a career can’t afford to drop $3k on suits, shoes, shirts and ties, plus the ongoing dry cleaning costs. Blue collar people often won’t own one. And women were always left out. Those suits my female law school classmates wore in the 90s were hideous. They could make swimsuit models look bleh.
 
HuskyHawk said:
I think it’s a perception that isn’t grounded in reality and hasn’t been in decades. You’re not that much older than me. I recall wearing wool suits to walk to the courthouse in the Kansas City summer. Miserable and pointless. Then I moved to Silicon Valley in 96 and that was the end of that. Golf shirts and khakis, sometimes shorts. But those people were taking their work very seriously. Our lead EY auditor told me they were told by every client, no jackets, no ties, it’s not welcome.

Suits are elitist. Most young people starting a career can’t afford to drop $3k on suits, shoes, shirts and ties, plus the ongoing dry cleaning costs. Blue collar people often won’t own one. And women were always left out. Those suits my female law school classmates wore in the 90s were hideous. They could make swimsuit models look bleh.
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' I recall wearing wool suits to walk to the courthouse in the Kansas City summer. Miserable and pointless. '

wrong wool, and they know this in Kansas.
correct wool,
'Tropical wool is also known as cool wool because it is lightweight and it works great for clothing during hot weather. It is normally made from Merino wool and contains thermal management properties that make it naturally very breathable and cool to the touch. It looks extremely elegant yet is very functional.'
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16 Different Types of Wool Fabric

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u missed an opportunity to look 'extremely elegant.' u know who really, really, likes guys looking 'extremely elegant?' the ladies. 'an easy victory.'
 
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The only suits I see at work are serious try-hards with no power, sales guys, and boomers.
 
HuskyHawk said:
I think it’s a perception that isn’t grounded in reality and hasn’t been in decades. You’re not that much older than me. I recall wearing wool suits to walk to the courthouse in the Kansas City summer. Miserable and pointless. Then I moved to Silicon Valley in 96 and that was the end of that. Golf shirts and khakis, sometimes shorts. But those people were taking their work very seriously. Our lead EY auditor told me they were told by every client, no jackets, no ties, it’s not welcome.

Suits are elitist. Most young people starting a career can’t afford to drop $3k on suits, shoes, shirts and ties, plus the ongoing dry cleaning costs. Blue collar people often won’t own one. And women were always left out. Those suits my female law school classmates wore in the 90s were hideous. They could make swimsuit models look bleh.
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'can’t afford to drop $3k on suits, shoes, shirts and ties, plus the ongoing dry cleaning costs.'

way, way, off on the reality for that cost. moar like $600 to $700 for the whole package (say around $400 for a good quality, all natural fabric, suit, then around $150 for some all leather kix, $50 for an all cotton shirt, $20-$30 for a tie, if you know how to shop). dry cleaning extra.
here's a nice, all wool, blue suit. 2 fiddy, and they even let you pay in installments. fully lined.
here, have sum j+m's,
'Crafted in fine Italian calfskin leather, these lace ups are fashioned with bond-welt construction and a straight tip. A full-length cushioned footbed enhances the comfort of these impressive oxfords.'
a buck fiddy.

heck, they even have a popup that sez 'spend $150, and u get an extra thirty bucks off!'
 
HuskyHawk said:
I think it’s a perception that isn’t grounded in reality and hasn’t been in decades. You’re not that much older than me. I recall wearing wool suits to walk to the courthouse in the Kansas City summer. Miserable and pointless. Then I moved to Silicon Valley in 96 and that was the end of that. Golf shirts and khakis, sometimes shorts. But those people were taking their work very seriously. Our lead EY auditor told me they were told by every client, no jackets, no ties, it’s not welcome.

Suits are elitist. Most young people starting a career can’t afford to drop $3k on suits, shoes, shirts and ties, plus the ongoing dry cleaning costs. Blue collar people often won’t own one. And women were always left out. Those suits my female law school classmates wore in the 90s were hideous. They could make swimsuit models look bleh.
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We went business casual in the 90s, pushed by Wall Street. But do I think business casual means a sports coat and wool slacks, but without a tie? Yes. And I will wear a suit to a meeting outsider the firm, whether others will or not.

But that doesn’t mean I don’t recognize that others view it differently, and it’s not a matter of life and death.
 
I'm in the suit camp. Most days. Still required for court, even remote proceedings. I like them and don't mind wearing them.

Most days.

I don't have a strong feeling one way or the other about coaches wearing them.
 
businesslawyer said:
We went business casual in the 90s, pushed by Wall Street. But do I think business casual means a sports coat and wool slacks, but without a tie? Yes. And I will wear a suit to a meeting outsider the firm, whether others will or not.

But that doesn’t mean I don’t recognize that others view it differently, and it’s not a matter of life and death.
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Still waiting for proper dress code for Court appearances to be those established by defense counsel in My Cousin Vinny.
 
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huskiesouth said:
Still waiting for proper dress code for Court appearances to be those established by defense counsel in My Cousin Vinny.
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The only time I've been in Alabama was for a meeting with a large group at a client's facility in Montgomery, Alabama. The head of the facility said please don't come dressed like lawyers, everyone who walks in here will know something is up. So lawyers from a number of different firms complied and showed up wearing polo shirts and khakis. The facility manager took one look at us and said "I told y'all not to be dressed like lawyers.
 
Hell, I own a tux.

Anyway, whether one is in the suit camp or the casual Friday camp, all one needs to do is travel to France or Italy and notice how pretty much every American tourist looks like a slob no matter what they're wearing.
 
businesslawyer said:
The only time I've been in Alabama was for a meeting with a large group at a client's facility in Montgomery, Alabama. The head of the facility said please don't come dressed like lawyers, everyone who walks in here will know something is up. So lawyers from a number of different firms complied and showed up wearing polo shirts and khakis. The facility manager took one look at us and said "I told y'all not to be dressed like lawyers.
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'The facility manager took one look at us and said "I told y'all not to be dressed like lawyers.'

switch out whatever ur wearing on ur feet for a pair of these.
problem solved.
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dressy, no?
and make sure that u get the ones with the full leather lining, and not that hokey plastic web junk that they try to slide by 'unsophisticated' buyers. original timberlands-accept no substitutes. ur feet will thank you.
make u taller, too.
 
HooperScooper said:
I guess the coaches do since they spent an hour talking about it. :)
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I think one of them actually said he found the conversation mundane, or something along those lines.
storrsroars said:
To me at least, Jay Wright on the sidelines in a bespoke suit is part of the Villanova brand.

If Wright and Bob Huggins were both at the kitchen table dressed like they usually do, and they were recruiting your kid, which coach would command your attention most - the guy who looks like he stepped out of a Savile Row shop or the one on his way to shop at WalMart?
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I'd have my kid play for Jay Wright if he walked in wearing just his underwear. You've earned the right to dress casually when you achieve the success he or Huggins has.
mussels said:
So just to be clear: it’s perfectly rational to obsess about the ability of young men to throw a piece of inflated rubber through an iron hoop - but opining about how their coaches dress is puzzling.

Do I have this right ?
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Yeah. This is like the conversations people have surrounding NBA player outfits. Why should I care about what they're wearing? I'm here to be entertained by their rare skills.
storrsroars said:
A logical followup question would then be, "Why do we care what the players' unis look like if we're there to see their talent?"
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I dont think anyone actually cares that much. I think most people just don't want their favorite teams jersey to be distractingly ugly.
 
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Huskyforlife said:
I wonder why anyone cares.
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Donny and the other announcer spent a couple minutes talking about it during tonight's game. Of course it was a 45 point lead at that point so what else were they going to talk about? :)
 
storrsroars said:
Hell, I own a tux.

Anyway, whether one is in the suit camp or the casual Friday camp, all one needs to do is travel to France or Italy and notice how pretty much every American tourist looks like a slob no matter what they're wearing.
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Yes, but they wear better looking casual clothes, that's why (and they are less fat). We seem to go straight from suits to hoodies and jeans. Well that and they are willing to suffer horrifically uncomfortable shoes for the sake of fashion. That I cannot do. The leather soled shoe is an abomination, and the pointy toed shoe is even worse. I struggle to even find running shoes I can wear.
 
HuskyHawk said:
The leather soled shoe is an abomination, and the pointy toed shoe is even worse. I struggle to even find running shoes I can wear.
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On the leather-soled shoe, we agree. I was Imelda freaking Marcos with a great collection of leather-soled shoes from the legendary (and now defunct) Barrie Booters in New Haven. I still have them all, resoled several times over the decades; and now I cannot imagine how or why I or anyone else ever tolerated that discomfort.

I found Samuel Hubbard shoes several years ago and haven't worn a single pair of leather-soled shoes since. Of course, now I own seven pairs of them... If you haven't checked them out, do; they are the same people who made Rockports, which is all I used to wear when bartending.

If you are looking for running shoes to walk in, try Hokas. My wife is a nurse and I bought her a pair for her birthday this year. She doesn't run, but she is on her feet all day at work and says they have made a huge difference. The running store where I got them said they sell more pairs of Hokas to nurses than they do to runners.

If you're looking for running shoes to run in and you're an over-pronator like me, check out Brooks Adrenaline and Asics GT-2000; those are the two I alternate between. And I add a Currex RunPro insole because the insoles that come with running shoes are crap. It's worth your while to go to a good local running store and have them take a look at your old running shoes to analyze your gait and get you properly fitted. After that you can join Road Runner Sports and keep reordering the same shoes as needed for considerably less than you pay in the stores.
 
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