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JimOllie said:
Just spoke to someone who is connected to the Big 12. He said BYU will be invited for sure. Also said Cincinnati is the second favorite. BUT he says they will expand 4 more teams. His prediction would be that UConn and Memphis will take the final two spots. Only thing he mentioned was that UConn football could be an issue.
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Did you get the hot wax and undercarriage package?
 
Can't wait to make those trips to Manhattan, KS, Stillwater, OK, and Ames, IA for conference games. Way better venues than Tulane and USF though.

Granted I'll take a home and home with Kansas every year. Allen Fieldhouse is just an amazing place to watch a game of basketball...
 
JimOllie said:
My great uncle's cousin is married to the TCU AD
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Ok. That's closer to the situation than I thought.

It would strike me as odd that TCU would support BYU though I'm sure they will acquiesce to the conference consensus. Also, TCU AD is buddies with our very own AD Dave Benedict so I hope that connection helps us.
 
UConn Dan said:
Ok. That's closer to the situation than I thought.

It would strike me as odd that TCU would support BYU though I'm sure they will acquiesce to the conference consensus. Also, TCU AD is buddies with our very own AD Dave Benedict so I hope that connection helps us.
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He seems certain that if they expand by 4 that UConn will be in. If they only expand by 2, could be Cincy and BYU.
 
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Jerry1714 said:
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If UConn found a home for football, the Big East would seriously consider the Huskies for all other sports, according to a source with knowledge. The Big East would be a natural fit. So far the 10-team Big East only has all sports members, but doesn't offer Division I (FBS) football. UConn is in all sports in the AAC. If given the choice, the Huskies would want to be in the Big 12 in all sports. But the chances that offer ever comes is still too hard to predict now.
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This is so incredibly stupid. At least 75% of our value comes from what we would add as a basketball member. Why would the Big 12 take us in purely for our biggest negative?
 
Rocktheworld said:
This is so incredibly stupid. At least 75% of our value comes from what we would add as a basketball member. Why would the Big 12 take us in purely for our biggest negative?
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It's simple. The Big 12 wants to increase its chances to get invited to the College Football Playoff. By adding more teams, those odds are increased. And it doesn't matter who those teams are. All that matters is there's more teams.
 
Rocktheworld said:
This is so incredibly stupid. At least 75% of our value comes from what we would add as a basketball member. Why would the Big 12 take us in purely for our biggest negative?
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1. You can put your B12 network in the NYC/CT TV market.
2. You don't have to spend a ton of money traveling to CT for non-revenue-generating Olympic sports.

I agree it's dumb, but that's the premise.
 
Irish Loop said:
1. You can put your B12 network in the NYC/CT TV market.
2. You don't have to spend a ton of money traveling to CT for non-revenue-generating Olympic sports.
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JimOllie said:
It's simple. The Big 12 wants to increase its chances to get invited to the College Football Playoff. By adding more teams, those odds are increased. And it doesn't matter who those teams are. All that matters is there's more teams.
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and yeah I guess I see it.
 
JimOllie said:
It's simple. The Big 12 wants to increase its chances to get invited to the College Football Playoff. By adding more teams, those odds are increased. And it doesn't matter who those teams are. All that matters is there's more teams.
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Given the timing of the news this would appear to be more about the ACCN than anything related to the playoff, no?
 
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HooperScooper said:
The leaders in the clubhouse for Big 12 expansion remain BYU, Cincinnati and Connecticut. The next tier includes South Florida, Central Florida, Memphis, Colorado State, Houston, Boise State and Tulane. If the league does add four schools, there’s really no standout candidate for that fourth slot. (Houston has the best program and television market of available schools, but there’s still some hesitancy within the state of Texas to allow the Cougars to use the Big 12 to potentially leap over current members).
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This is kind of odd. "We want good, competitive schools, but we don't want them to be better than the current members." So they want 'quality' bottom feeders?
 
JimOllie said:
Bottom line: if Big 12 expands by 2, we have a chance but absolutely no guarantees. If the Big 12 expands by 4, we're in. Please, please, please expand by 4.
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I really think they do 4 now possibly 2 football only 2 full as Texas and Oklahoma have eyes for the PAC/B1G/SEC. In that scenario BYU and maybe BSU as football only UC UConn full. Big 12 commissioner says overall strength of athletic department, fan base, academics, markets, are going to be key factors. UConn has the strongest academics, very strong overall athletics, dominates home market (something no other candidate can say) with penetration into strong markets, and while recent decline in football attendance hurts perception of fan base you'd have to be an idiot not to see how playing a Big12 football schedule puts any attendance issues to rest. We have a lot more to hang our hats on than one or two good football seasons.
 
Espn polled B12 coaches for who they wanTed for football. Byu and Houston were tops with cincy, Memphis and csu getting votes...

Let's hope the our other qualities more than make up for it
 
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DiacosArmy said:
It's amazing seeing how non-CR obsessed posters discuss CR.
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And on the flip side as a non CR obsessed person it's amazing to watch the mental self harm you guys put yourselves through post after post an the CR board. I don't post there but take a peak after a bad day at work to feel better about my bad day.

you guys are like Charlie Brown trying to kick the football. Lucy always pulls it away yet you continue to think the next kick ( read: key tweet) will be different .


I give you credit for the cockeyed optimism, it is entertaining.
 
Espn polled B12 coaches for who they wanTed for football. Byu and Houston were tops with cincy, Memphis and csu getting votes...

Let's hope the our other qualities more than make up for it
 
huskiesNhoos said:
Espn polled B12 coaches for who they wanTed for football. Byu and Houston were tops with cincy, Memphis and csu getting votes...

Let's hope the our other qualities more than make up for it
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Exactly why I'm scared. Everyone says football is where the money's at and that's clearly our weak spot. I think the 4 should be BYU, Houston, UConn, and Cincinnati. BYU and Houston mainly for football. Cincy for basketball and football. UConn for basketball and NYC market.
 
August_West said:
And on the flip side as a non CR obsessed person it's amazing to watch the mental self harm you guys put yourselves through post after post an the CR board. I don't post there but take a peak after a bad day at work to feel better about my bad day.

you guys are like Charlie Brown trying to kick the football. Lucy always pulls it away yet you continue to think the next kick ( read: key tweet) will be different .


I give you credit for the cockeyed optimism, it is entertaining.
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That forum is a monument to the truly unique experience that is being a UConn fan with regard to CR. No fanbase is/has been going/has gone through what we have given our athletic achievements and outright discrimination our school has felt. No college athletics forum has a CR board that could hold a candle to the activity that happens every day here (if they even have one). Essentially nobody outside our fandom knows or cares about CR, the driving factors, or especially how lucky their school is to be where they are.

Honestly, the boneyard is a leading news source for all things CR. And it has pulled in (for better and worse) fans from other schools all over the country.

Incredibly interesting little corner of the internet it is. It sucks that it exists and in a decade we will cringe about a lot of the discussions that occurred there, but overall as a member I am proud it is a significant part of our message board
 
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DiacosArmy said:
I really think they do 4 now possibly 2 football only 2 full as Texas and Oklahoma have eyes for the PAC/B1G/SEC. In that scenario BYU and maybe BSU as football only UC UConn full. Big 12 commissioner says overall strength of athletic department, fan base, academics, markets, are going to be key factors. UConn has the strongest academics, very strong overall athletics, dominates home market (something no other candidate can say) with penetration into strong markets, and while recent decline in football attendance hurts perception of fan base you'd have to be an idiot not to see how playing a Big12 football schedule puts any attendance issues to rest. We have a lot more to hang our hats on than one or two good football seasons.
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Why would Texas go anywhere else? Every other conference wants them to give up the Longhorn TV network, and for UT, I would think that would be a non starter? That's their most valuable commodity. Sort of like ND football independence.
 
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Of all of the power conferences, the B12 is the one I least want to join. The ACC is the best fit for us. However, if the offer from the B12 comes, we have to take it.
 
UCweCONN said:
Of all of the power conferences, the B12 is the one I least want to join. The ACC is the best fit for us. However, if the offer from the B12 comes, we have to take it.
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ACC ship has sailed with the new network deal I'd think.
 
80shusky said:
Is this really a good league for us from a geographic standpoint or is it sort of an anywhere but where we are situation?
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Just where have you been the last few years...
 
JimOllie said:
Actually I think the SEC is the worst for us. Big 10 best in my opinion, ACC close second.
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Just geographically speaking, the PAC12 would be a disaster for the kids.
 
UC1995 said:
Just where have you been the last few years...
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Right here. I think we are a better fit with other conferences geographically but P5 better than AAC. However, CR is not likely to end with the the Big 12. If we end up in the wrong spot, with bad geographical matchups, in a conference that gets raided again we may end up right where we already are.
 
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