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Big 12 or Bust

TerryD1957 said:
ND intensely dislikes and distrusts the Big Ten. It also gets around $72 million a year in TV money without having to join a conference. It doesn't need to join the Big Ten to make money. Why join something that you hate?

The dislike and distrust is built on history. Other people may not like it but ND detests the Big Ten and will not join.
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Still holding onto your blackberry?
 
TerryD1957 said:
ND intensely dislikes and distrusts the Big Ten. It also gets around $72 million a year in TV money without having to join a conference. It doesn't need to join the Big Ten to make money. Why join something that you hate?

The dislike and distrust is built on history. Other people may not like it but ND detests the Big Ten and will not join.
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Well, except for men's hockey.
 
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TerryD1957 said:
Nobody cares about hockey in realignment.

Football> hockey. I was talking about football, the only sport that counts in conference realignment.
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Kind of hard to be taken seriously climbing on a high horse to justify hatred of a league when you are willing to join them when it is convenient for you. Hockey is obviously not even remotely as important as football, but ND still has made a major investment in it (ask the Compton family) and had no problem joining the Big 10 to protect that investment.
 
kibblesnbits said:
Kind of hard to be taken seriously climbing on a high horse to justify hatred of a league when you are willing to join them when it is convenient for you. Hockey is obviously not even remotely as important as football, but ND still has made a major investment in it (ask the Compton family) and had no problem joining the Big 10 to protect that investment.
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I think this is a fair point. Apparently Notre Dame's moral repugnance about playing in the Big Ten is mitigated by convenience.
 
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Memo to the Big 12 Conference: The Case for UConn as Your Final, Transformative Acquisition

Subject: Why the University of Connecticut is the Single Greatest Uncornered Asset in College Athletics, and Why Hesitation is Strategic Malpractice

The modern Big 12 has executed a savvy, survival-driven strategy, pivoting from a football-centric identity to embrace basketball strength and new media markets. You've added the "Four Corners" schools and cemented your status as the nation's premier basketball conference. However, there remains one final, glaring hole in your portfolio—and it is not another football project. The conference that should be pounding on UConn's door is yours. Here is the irrefutable argument.

1. The Basketball Crown: An Unmatched Kingdom You Do Not Rule

The Big 12 markets itself as "the deepest and best basketball conference in America." This is true. But you lack the crown jewel, the program that transcends the sport and commands casual national attention. UConn provides not one, but two transcendent crowns.

· Men's Basketball: UConn is the reigning, back-to-back national champion, executing the most dominant NCAA tournament run in modern history in 2024. They have 6 titles since 1999, a blue-blood resume forged in the 21st century. Adding UConn doesn't just add a good team; it adds the current standard-bearer of the sport, instantly elevating the conference's prestige in the sport you are now staking your brand upon.
· Women's Basketball: This is not an addition; it is an annexation of a sovereign nation. Geno Auriemma's program is women's college basketball for a national audience. Their 11 titles are a dynasty without peer. The Big 12 has strong women's programs, but adding UConn would instantly make your conference the undisputed epicenter of the women's game, commanding unparalleled media attention and recruiting appeal.

Together, you would secure the "Basketball Conference" title for a generation. No other conference could claim ownership of both the reigning men's and women's kings.

2. The Director's Cup Revelation: You're Not Just Getting a School, You're Acquiring an Entire Top-10 Athletic Department

The Big 12's expansion has focused on athletic potential. UConn is not potential; it is proven, elite performance. As the 2023-24 LEARFIELD Directors' Cup standings prove:

· UConn finished 10th nationally.
· UConn finished ahead of every current Big 12 member except Texas (who is leaving).
· UConn finished ahead of Michigan, Ohio State, USC, and Clemson.

This means by adding UConn, you are not adding a "basketball school with other sports." You are incorporating a Top-10 all-sports powerhouse that will immediately compete for and win championships in soccer, field hockey, cross country, and baseball. This dramatically improves the conference's overall NCAA tournament unit generation, championship visibility, and prestige far beyond the revenue sports.

3. The Media Market & Geography: A Calculated Bridge to the Future

The argument against UConn has always been football and the Northeast corridor. This is a failure of imagination.

· The New York/New England Bridgehead: The Big 12 is now a national conference from Orlando to Phoenix, Cincinnati to Salt Lake City. UConn provides a legitimate, passionate flagship anchor in the country's largest media corridor. Yes, it's not a traditional football market, but it is a massive market of displaced alumni and college sports fans currently underserved. You gain the NYC ESPN footprint and lock down New England.
· Football is a Fixer-Upper with Upside: UConn football is currently an independent. In the Big 12, it immediately gains stability, a compelling conference schedule, and the resources to rebuild. The ceiling is higher than any other available G5 program. You are not buying today's football product; you are investing in its potential within your stable ecosystem, while its other assets pay immediate dividends.

4. The Existential Counter-Argument: If Not You, Then Who? And What Then?

The Big Ten and SEC are not calling UConn. The ACC might, but their own stability is shaky. You have a narrow window of opportunity to secure an asset that could define your conference's next era.

· If the ACC adds UConn, they instantly reclaim the basketball narrative, secure the Northeast, and potentially stabilize themselves. The Big 12 becomes the second-best basketball conference overnight.
· If you add UConn, you deliver a knockout blow to the ACC's prestige, become the undisputed home of college basketball, and add a culturally aligned, public flagship university with a fanbase hungry for a stable power conference home.

Conclusion: The Strategic Imperative

Big 12, you have successfully navigated realignment by being bold and rejecting old paradigms. Continuing that strategy requires one final, paradigm-shattering move.

UConn is not a charity case. It is a blue-chip athletic conglomerate trading at a discount because its football stock is undervalued. You are not doing them a favor; they are doing you the favor by offering:

1. The ultimate validation of your "Basketball Supreme" branding.
2. An instant, massive upgrade to your conference's overall academic and athletic prestige.
3. A direct pipeline into the nation's #1 media market.
4. A proven championship culture across more sports than any other available candidate.

The move is not without football risk, but the rewards in every other metric—branding, basketball dominance, national championships, media relevance—are not just calculable; they are guaranteed and immediate.

Stop waiting. The asset that completes your conference's transformation is in Storrs. Go get it.
 
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Yo_ho_ho_'n_Rum said:
Memo to the Big 12 Conference: The Case for UConn as Your Final, Transformative Acquisition

Subject: Why the University of Connecticut is the Single Greatest Uncornered Asset in College Athletics, and Why Hesitation is Strategic Malpractice

The modern Big 12 has executed a savvy, survival-driven strategy, pivoting from a football-centric identity to embrace basketball strength and new media markets. You've added the "Four Corners" schools and cemented your status as the nation's premier basketball conference. However, there remains one final, glaring hole in your portfolio—and it is not another football project. The conference that should be pounding on UConn's door is yours. Here is the irrefutable argument.

1. The Basketball Crown: An Unmatched Kingdom You Do Not Rule

The Big 12 markets itself as "the deepest and best basketball conference in America." This is true. But you lack the crown jewel, the program that transcends the sport and commands casual national attention. UConn provides not one, but two transcendent crowns.

· Men's Basketball: UConn is the reigning, back-to-back national champion, executing the most dominant NCAA tournament run in modern history in 2024. They have 6 titles since 1999, a blue-blood resume forged in the 21st century. Adding UConn doesn't just add a good team; it adds the current standard-bearer of the sport, instantly elevating the conference's prestige in the sport you are now staking your brand upon.
· Women's Basketball: This is not an addition; it is an annexation of a sovereign nation. Geno Auriemma's program is women's college basketball for a national audience. Their 11 titles are a dynasty without peer. The Big 12 has strong women's programs, but adding UConn would instantly make your conference the undisputed epicenter of the women's game, commanding unparalleled media attention and recruiting appeal.

Together, you would secure the "Basketball Conference" title for a generation. No other conference could claim ownership of both the reigning men's and women's kings.

2. The Director's Cup Revelation: You're Not Just Getting a School, You're Acquiring an Entire Top-10 Athletic Department

The Big 12's expansion has focused on athletic potential. UConn is not potential; it is proven, elite performance. As the 2023-24 LEARFIELD Directors' Cup standings prove:

· UConn finished 10th nationally.
· UConn finished ahead of every current Big 12 member except Texas (who is leaving).
· UConn finished ahead of Michigan, Ohio State, USC, and Clemson.

This means by adding UConn, you are not adding a "basketball school with other sports." You are incorporating a Top-10 all-sports powerhouse that will immediately compete for and win championships in soccer, field hockey, cross country, and baseball. This dramatically improves the conference's overall NCAA tournament unit generation, championship visibility, and prestige far beyond the revenue sports.

3. The Media Market & Geography: A Calculated Bridge to the Future

The argument against UConn has always been football and the Northeast corridor. This is a failure of imagination.

· The New York/New England Bridgehead: The Big 12 is now a national conference from Orlando to Phoenix, Cincinnati to Salt Lake City. UConn provides a legitimate, passionate flagship anchor in the country's largest media corridor. Yes, it's not a traditional football market, but it is a massive market of displaced alumni and college sports fans currently underserved. You gain the NYC ESPN footprint and lock down New England.
· Football is a Fixer-Upper with Upside: UConn football is currently an independent. In the Big 12, it immediately gains stability, a compelling conference schedule, and the resources to rebuild. The ceiling is higher than any other available G5 program. You are not buying today's football product; you are investing in its potential within your stable ecosystem, while its other assets pay immediate dividends.

4. The Existential Counter-Argument: If Not You, Then Who? And What Then?

The Big Ten and SEC are not calling UConn. The ACC might, but their own stability is shaky. You have a narrow window of opportunity to secure an asset that could define your conference's next era.

· If the ACC adds UConn, they instantly reclaim the basketball narrative, secure the Northeast, and potentially stabilize themselves. The Big 12 becomes the second-best basketball conference overnight.
· If you add UConn, you deliver a knockout blow to the ACC's prestige, become the undisputed home of college basketball, and add a culturally aligned, public flagship university with a fanbase hungry for a stable power conference home.

Conclusion: The Strategic Imperative

Big 12, you have successfully navigated realignment by being bold and rejecting old paradigms. Continuing that strategy requires one final, paradigm-shattering move.

UConn is not a charity case. It is a blue-chip athletic conglomerate trading at a discount because its football stock is undervalued. You are not doing them a favor; they are doing you the favor by offering:

1. The ultimate validation of your "Basketball Supreme" branding.
2. An instant, massive upgrade to your conference's overall academic and athletic prestige.
3. A direct pipeline into the nation's #1 media market.
4. A proven championship culture across more sports than any other available candidate.

The move is not without football risk, but the rewards in every other metric—branding, basketball dominance, national championships, media relevance—are not just calculable; they are guaranteed and immediate.

Stop waiting. The asset that completes your conference's transformation is in Storrs. Go get it.
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No one wants to read your 100% AI walls of text
 
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If the G 5 decides to have their own playoff for financial reasons, where do we fit in? Would we have to join a conference to get an invite?
 
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