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Big 12 expansion drama contrasts Big Ten poise

As I read Dennis Dodd's piece posted yesterday detailing the infighting at Oklahoma over proposed Big 12 expansion, I thought of the Big Ten. In a positive light.

Say what you might about Jim Delany and the conference presidents' decisions on expansion over the last 25 years – all started by Penn State – what you have not seen much of is public discord.

Oh, there has been discord. Plenty of it. But Delany has managed to keep most of it under wraps until a decision is made, then projected the image of a ship being rowed by 11 pairs of oars, then 12, then 14.

The Big Ten commissioner learned a lot from the execution of his first major move – asking Penn State to come aboard in December 1989 without informing athletics directors. That proved to be a mad scramble that had everyone from Bo Schembechler to Bob Knight chiming in with sarcastic potshots and the entire concept very nearly coming undone until a 7-3 vote six months later.

Delany really has never made a comparable mistake since. Whatever you think about the Big Ten's important moves since then – courting Notre Dame, forming a cable channel, inviting Nebraska, inviting Maryland and Rutgers – never did the conference appear conflicted and never did it look to be at war with itself.

These are vital qualities in any growing and dynamic organization. Because change and evolution is always necessary to maintain health. The steps in conceiving the direction of that change always are filled with disagreements. But if you look like a house full of Bickersons, you become dysfunctional in observers' minds.

Right now, if you took a poll of which of the Power Five conferences appears the most instable, it'd be a landslide for the Big 12. And that's not good, because perception tends to feed reality.
 
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Very true. The reality of the B12 is it is a Frankenconference which merged parts of the old SWC (Texas, Texas Tech, Baylor, TCU) and all of the old B8 conference (Oklahoma, Okie Lite, Kansas, KSU, ISU), then after defections and changes they sprinkled in WVU (and brought TCU back in). They have never had the the connected history and tradition of one conference, and never will. It's been something like 20-25 years since it originally formed and they are still trying to sort themselves out. I don't think expansion or a conference network is going to ultimately fix the B12, it just may satisfy the big 2 of the B12 enough, and allow the rest to have enough food to stay full and content. Mizzou, A&M, Nebraska, and Colorado broke away from the dysfunctional home years ago, the rest of the siblings have yet to realize or have yet to get the option to run away. They know mom (OU) and dad (UT) are nuts and abusive, but they at least manage to put food on the table and clothes on their back, so they stay. Sadly, UConn's current home can barely feed them enough and we are starting to get holes in our shoes and clothes... a dysfunctional home that feeds us and clothes us sounds pretty good right about now.
 
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What's amazing is that there is a very clear path forward for the Big 12, but that the two major players in the league are unable to get on the same page because they truly believe they are superior to everyone else in the conference.

I mean the path towards beating the ACC to a network couldn't be clearer:

1) Add Cincy/UConn
2) Texas folds LHN into a Big 12 Network and use new markets in the east to make it more lucrative.
3) After a few years of operation, with no ACC Network in place go to town and raid FSU, Clemson and whomever else they want.

But again, Texas is out for themselves and Oklahoma has other options, so there is no major impetus for them to get on the same page.
 
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I think asking UT to give up the LHN is covered by AZ's first law of sacrifice.
"It's a lot easier to demand someone else sacrifice than actual sacrifice yourself"
 
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Big 12 expansion drama contrasts Big Ten poise

As I read Dennis Dodd's piece posted yesterday detailing the infighting at Oklahoma over proposed Big 12 expansion, I thought of the Big Ten. In a positive light.

Say what you might about Jim Delany and the conference presidents' decisions on expansion over the last 25 years – all started by Penn State – what you have not seen much of is public discord.

Oh, there has been discord. Plenty of it. But Delany has managed to keep most of it under wraps until a decision is made, then projected the image of a ship being rowed by 11 pairs of oars, then 12, then 14.

The Big Ten commissioner learned a lot from the execution of his first major move – asking Penn State to come aboard in December 1989 without informing athletics directors. That proved to be a mad scramble that had everyone from Bo Schembechler to Bob Knight chiming in with sarcastic potshots and the entire concept very nearly coming undone until a 7-3 vote six months later.

Delany really has never made a comparable mistake since. Whatever you think about the Big Ten's important moves since then – courting Notre Dame, forming a cable channel, inviting Nebraska, inviting Maryland and Rutgers – never did the conference appear conflicted and never did it look to be at war with itself.

These are vital qualities in any growing and dynamic organization. Because change and evolution is always necessary to maintain health. The steps in conceiving the direction of that change always are filled with disagreements. But if you look like a house full of Bickersons, you become dysfunctional in observers' minds.

Right now, if you took a poll of which of the Power Five conferences appears the most instable, it'd be a landslide for the Big 12. And that's not good, because perception tends to feed reality.


Frankly your comment re: not appearing conflicted or at war with itself re: specifically Rutgers doesn't add up. Rutgers has been a rank embarrassment and certain B1G members believe so. You counter with, "But, cable boxes, cables boxes, cable boxes". I say, "Yea, you got cable boxes, but nobody uses them to watch Rutgers". Maybe cable boxes overcome the Rutroh stench, but to imply that the B1G has been a big happy family about adding Rutgers is BS.
 

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Frankly your comment re: not appearing conflicted or at war with itself re: specifically Rutgers doesn't add up. Rutgers has been a rank embarrassment and certain B1G members believe so. You counter with, "But, cable boxes, cables boxes, cable boxes". I say, "Yea, you got cable boxes, but nobody uses them to watch Rutgers". Maybe cable boxes overcome the Rutroh stench, but to imply that the B1G has been a big happy family about adding Rutgers is BS.
cable boxes obviously overcome absolutely anything. He's right.
 
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SAMCRO astutely and concisely pointed out the Big 12's dysfunction since Day-One. That's true.

Culture may be a secondary factor.

The SEC has its 150 year butt-sore cohesive solidarity. The B1G has its taciturn cold weather hibernators. The Pac-12 has its distracted apathy.

Meanwhile, Big 12 people are chatty.

Texans are notorious for putting their foot in their mouth. Even people who move to Texas think they need to become big talkers too.

Okies aren't about to let Texans out-talk them.

Meanwhile people in Kansas and Iowa are just so friendly and neighborly.

And the people from West Virginia have been reviled by all of their neighboring states for so long that they're overly-exuberant because of the Big 12's acceptance.

So you have everybody in the Big 12 geographic footprint talking incessantly in their charmingly, gossipy, know-it-all way.

How much of what you're hearing out of the Big 12 states can actually be attributed to sources? How much can be attributed to facts or even historical trends?

Most of it's nonsense.

I don't think people in Illinois and Ohio have the patience to suffer such nonsense.

In Texas, Oklahoma, etc. we eat it up. And then we one-up it.

We're incorrigible. You'll love us when you're a part of our crazy little family.
 

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I think asking UT to give up the LHN is covered by AZ's first law of sacrifice.
"It's a lot easier to demand someone else sacrifice than actual sacrifice yourself"

Agreed if it were that the ask was to give something up for the greater good with the expectation of nothing in return. But nobody is asking UT to take a flyer on abandoning the LHN.

Every model has them being compensated for the life of that contract with ESPN, the Big 12 is basically asking UT to put the branding interests of the Big 12 on par with those of their own university for the sake of the conference's stability.
 
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