Big 12 Doomsday Scenariosl

[amory]

If the big12 dies we may as well shut this board down because we're stuck where we are, permanently

The only positive I could see is that the AAC at the very least wouldn't be getting any worse, cincy and ucf are likely stuck here too

 

[uconnphil2016]

Maybe I'm off the mark, but I think the Big 12 imploding is UConns best case scenario outside of an improbable immediate invite to the big ten. If the big 12 implodes, we at WORST add teams like Texas Tech, Baylor, Iowa State in Tha American which would drastically improve our level of play. If we avoid the worst, we end up in the Big Ten or ACC as conferences enter into the next phase of expansion. We kind of need the Big 12 to implode. We are fooling ourselves to think we're a viable Big 12 candidate and even if we were, why join the Big 12 when its death is imminent anyhow? Why be the odd man out AGAIN after UT and OU jolt? Not sure that's a great idea.

 

[pj]

I agree. If the B12 dissolves then the P4 will need to expand in order for the college athletics world to have national legitimacy and avoid inbreeding/overexposure of a few teams, plus antitrust risk. 4 x 16 = 64 teams is not enough, especially if the Pac stays at 12 which would make sense meaning only 60 teams. Expansion to 4x20 = 80 teams would do it. UConn would surely be in, as we're a top 60 athletic department.

The exception would be if in order to dissolve the B12, the P4 have to make space for all the weak B12 teams. If that happens, there might be little appetite to continue expanding.

 

[huskymedic]

If the big 12 implodes, we at WORST add teams like Texas Tech, Baylor, Iowa State in Tha American which would drastically improve our level of play.

Big assumption that they wouldn't consider re-constituting in the MWC w/ a west/mid-west focus.

 

[uconnphil2016]

Big assumption that they wouldn't consider re-constituting in the MWC w/ a west/mid-west focus.

I see where you're coming from and there definitely is a worse scenario than my imagined worse case scenario. with that being said, I'd still find it hard to believe that the leftovers of the Big 12 and top-tier members of the MWC (Boise and Colorado St) would prefer to continue playing with the likes of Wyoming, New Mexico, etc. as opposed to cherry picking the top teams in the AAC (UCF, Cincinnati, UConn, Houston, SMU) and creating an entirely new quasi P5 conference. I imagine it would look something like this:

East
-Connecticut
-WVU
-UCF
-Cincinnati
-Iowa St

West
-SMU
-Houston
-Texas Tech
-Baylor (if they can't find another conference)
-Colorado St.

Probably forgetting others because I am heading out to dinner with my girlfriend and on the move, but you get the idea.

 

[nelsonmuntz]

I see where you're coming from and there definitely is a worse scenario than my imagined worse case scenario. with that being said, I'd still find it hard to believe that the leftovers of the Big 12 and top-tier members of the MWC (Boise and Colorado St) would prefer to continue playing with the likes of Wyoming, New Mexico, etc. as opposed to cherry picking the top teams in the AAC (UCF, Cincinnati, UConn, Houston, SMU) and creating an entirely new quasi P5 conference. I imagine it would look something like this:

East
-Connecticut
-WVU
-UCF
-Cincinnati
-Iowa St

West
-SMU
-Houston
-Texas Tech
-Baylor (if they can't find another conference)
-Colorado St.

Probably forgetting others because I am heading out to dinner with my girlfriend and on the move, but you get the idea.

The only thing keeping the football program in the AAC is the possibility of moving it to a P5 league. When that door is finally closed forever, there will be changes.

 

[CoastAtlantic]

West
Iowa State
Kansas State
Oklahoma State
Baylor
TCU
Texas Tech

East
West Virginia
Cincinnati
Connecticut
East Carolina
Central Florida
South Florida

Pretty decent league, likely above the MWC. West Virginia finally gets eastern neighbors, even if somewhat diminished. NBC/Comcast would make a run at the TV contract should Fox/Disney drop them. BYU and Boise State would be better off as independents.

 

[SonsOfNutmeg]

No more indepenents (including Notre Dame!) make everyone join a conference at least for FB... If the Big XII blows up. Do 8 conferences of 16 teams each.

New Conference-

Northeast Division:
UConn
Army*
Temple
Cincinnati
Navy

Southeast Division:
East Carolina
Memphis
Tulane
Central Florida
South Florida

West Division:
Kansas State*
Iowa State*
Oklahoma State*
TCU*
Texas Tech*

 

[31GuardTrap]

No more indepenents (including Notre Dame!) make everyone join a conference at least for FB... If the Big XII blows up. Do 8 conferences of 16 teams each.

New Conference-

Northeast Division:
UConn
Army*
Temple
Cincinnati
Navy

Southeast Division:
East Carolina
Memphis
Tulane
Central Florida
South Florida

West Division:
Kansas State*
Iowa State*
Oklahoma State*
TCU*
Texas Tech*

Did you demote SMU & Houston & Tulsa?

 

[Huskybite]

An example of the growing concern in Texas (if you are a smaller private school) of the doomsday scenario:

http://www.dallasnews.com/sports/co...s/20100611-Economist-Texas-will-lose-8396.ece

 

[SAMCRO]

That article is from 2010, back when the P12 was rumored to be grabbing UT, TT, OU, and OSU. Baylor was very vocal back then about suing if they were left behind.