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BigErnMcCracken said:
The idea that this team's "ceiling" has been established as a 5 seed at this point in the season is ridiculous. If they're sitting at 29-2 in March they're getting a 5 seed? C'mon, people, do better.
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Out of AAC? No they wouldn't get a 5. I bet they get a 3 with that though. And that is a 1 seed record in P5.
 
For people referencing UCONN in 2014...please remember that while UCONN had a good win OOC against Florida, they lost twice to SMU (who didn't make the tournament) and Houston, and lost to Stanford at home. 3 losses against non-tournament American teams, and 1-1 out of league against tournament teams.

We are going to have to sweep everyone in the conference who isn't SMU, Cincy or Tulsa this year. As much as it is about getting good wins, it is also about avoiding bad losses. I know that is tough, but that is the world we live in.

While I agree that our season doesn't end if we don't beat Maryland in two weeks, it is the best opportunity for the rest of the year to right these past 2 games. A neutral court win against Maryland crosses out the losses to Syracuse/Gonzaga.
 
Maryland is hyped to all holy hell. Beating them is important. Georgetown will beat some people this year thus beating them is critical as well. Win both of those and take care of business in conference and we're ok. no easy task but Ollie needs to force the issue. being under-seeded gives these guys added motivation, which frankly they may need.
 
Played two terrible games, played too many players too many minutes, and took about half of each game off and still nearly beat two top 25 caliber teams.

It sucks to lose two games that should have been won and that's on the players decision making. But, this team will get a lot better if they play a consistent 40 minutes. That is the challenge going forward as they create so many mismatches it's frightening. A little more attention on D wouldn't hurt either.
 
BigErnMcCracken said:
The idea that this team's "ceiling" has been established as a 5 seed at this point in the season is ridiculous. If they're sitting at 29-2 in March they're getting a 5 seed? C'mon, people, do better.
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Literal ceiling? No. If we get to 29-2, we're a #2 seed regardless of what anyone else does.

But it's a matter of probabilities. Before this tournament, I would say

a 90th percentile outcome: 28-3, #2 seed
a 50th percentile outcome: 26-5, #5 seed
a 10th percentile outcome: 22-9, #10 seed

After this tournament, more like:

a 90th percentile outcome: 27-4, #3 seed
a 50th percentile outcome: 25-6, #7 seed
a 10th percentile outcome: 21-10, NIT

This tournament probably cost us 1-2 seed lines. If we had gone 3-0, it probably would have been a seed line bump the other direction.
 
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Granted it would have been great to have won at least one of the last two games, both of them, despite not playing great, were on less hoop for them and one more for us from being wins. Both with basically a half day to prepare. Syracuse won again today. Yes our league isn't great, but tte speculating about seeding and being foreclosed from this path or that is silliness. We have other good teams to play and if we can win those and have an exceptional league record, a very high seed has not been foreclosed by two closed neutral court losses to a couple of decent or very good teams.
 
BLUEDOGHOUSE said:
While he is learning KO can also rule out a Providence/Brooklyn to Philadelphia (East Regional) path to the Final4 if championships are on his mind (my preseason expectations with others here). Unfortunately that desired path has more probably than not been burned as KO focuses on the learning curve. No doubt we learned a lot though and hopefully a quick look in the mirror by KO himself helps facilitate the overall progress of the team looking forward. As tight as our team chemistry appeared to be coming into the season... I think some changes are in order that could test that dynamic to a certain degree. My guess is we will be ok.

The Maryland game now becomes a must win. If we drop that game and Ohio State, Georgetown and Texas wind up on the bubble a third place finish in the AAC may send us to the NIT again. It is a painful thought and shows how quickly the "I'm learning about this team as we go..." has the potential to spiral out of control quickly.

I am very disappointed in the 1-2 Atlantis result but am now rooting for MD to beat UNC and for UConn to hand MD its first loss. This reality check certainly is painful.
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As the past has shown - Put UConn anywhere and magic can happen
 
Ts5034 said:
Dont forget Louisville in 2014 won the AAC regular season and AAC tournament championship, 25-26 wins, and was probably playing the best basketball of anybody in the country at the end of the season and still ended up with a 4 seed
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Who cares - who won it all??????
 
Tenspro2002 said:
Literal ceiling? No. If we get to 29-2, we're a #2 seed regardless of what anyone else does.

But it's a matter of probabilities. Before this tournament, I would say

a 90th percentile outcome: 28-3, #2 seed
a 50th percentile outcome: 26-5, #5 seed
a 10th percentile outcome: 22-9, #10 seed

After this tournament, more like:

a 90th percentile outcome: 27-4, #3 seed
a 50th percentile outcome: 25-6, #7 seed
a 10th percentile outcome: 21-10, NIT

This tournament probably cost us 1-2 seed lines. If we had gone 3-0, it probably would have been a seed line bump the other direction.
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I think you are looking at this in a vacuum. You don't know what everyone else is going to do. There are no great teams this year. A lot of teams are going to be taking their lumps.
 
lets just hope Cuse, Zaga end up being top 5 teams at end of season and these losses wont seem so bad.
 
intlzncster said:
I think you are looking at this in a vacuum. You don't know what everyone else is going to do. There are no great teams this year. A lot of teams are going to be taking their lumps.
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Exactly. Miami just lost at home to Northeastern. A lot of teams have WTF losses already. Notre Dame yesterday.

Losing to Gonzaga and Syracuse on neutral floors are missed opportunities, but they are not bad losses.
 
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gtcam said:
Who cares - who won it all??????
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Yes I know UConn won it all in 2014. But my argument was about seeding and how much work we would have to do in order to get a top 4 seed.
 
amory said:
I think by March this team will be able to beat anyone on any given night.

The problem is the path to a championship as a 7 seed like in 2014 is so much harder than the path as a 3 or 4 seed, and to be a 3 or 4 seed we'd need a gaudy OOC record.
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This team already can beat anyone on a given night. The problem is, it can also lose to almost anyone too. I think the problem is there's only one ball to go around.
 
Uconn77Duke74 said:
lets just hope Cuse, Zaga end up being top 5 teams at end of season and these losses wont seem so bad.
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Some people are just insane.

Are you saying losing to a top 10 team on a neutral site by 3 is a bad loss? Or losing to a team by 2 who just won this tournament and beat a very good A&M team to do so is a bad loss?

We played poorly and lost 2 games by a combined 5 points. We blew out a Michigan team who opened the year ranked. No the tournament did not end great but this nonsense about bad losses and Maryland being a must win is just asinine.

It is November. We have a ton of new parts it will take time, we will be fine, nothing to be embarrassed about losing to two goods teams in the final seconds. It happens.
 
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Jerry1714 said:
Some people are just insane.

Are you saying losing to a top 10 team on a neutral site by 3 is a bad loss? Or losing to a team by 2 who just won this tournament and beat a very good A&M team to do so is a bad loss?

We played poorly and lost 2 games by a combined 5 points. We blew out a Michigan team who opened the year ranked. No the tournament did not end great but this nonsense about bad losses and Maryland being a must win is just asinine.

It is November. We have a ton of new parts it will take time, we will be fine, nothing to be embarrassed about losing to two goods teams in the final seconds. It happens.
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This. The idea that we are anything other than a one if we run the table from here (which obviously won't happen) is similarly insane.

Invoking Louisville and SMU teams from past years is a false equivalence. Louisville was a four seed because they beat nobody OOC. SMU was a six seed because they didn't beat anybody OOC (as Blue said, the Michigan win turned out to be meaningless).

You don't have to run the table OOC to earn a high seed in a mid-major conference. You just have to take some scalps and prove you belong. We've already beaten Michigan (up 5 on Texas w/3 to play) and one possession losses to ranked teams certainly going to be deal breakers. Win the remaining OOC games, win the conference, and win the conference tournament and I can't see us being worse than a three.
 
The season isn't doomed but there is reason to be concerned....we have maybe 15 games on the schedule that have any meaning & 15 games that are basically meaningless except for "cosmetic" record purposes. So we are 1-2 with 12 to go....more close wins than close loses and we'll be fine.

Annoying but true....top 50 wins are really what matter on that special Sunday in March...."who did you play and how did you do".
 
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Uconn77Duke74 said:
lets just hope Cuse, Zaga end up being top 5 teams at end of season and these losses wont seem so bad.
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Objectively, they are not "bad" losses even now. Each team can stay stable where they are now and we will be fine.

Subjectively, they hurt us as fans because losing to Cuse is always awful, and we fought all the way back and still lost today.
 
champs99and04 said:
This. The idea that we are anything other than a one if we run the table from here (which obviously won't happen) is similarly insane.

Invoking Louisville and SMU teams from past years is a false equivalence. Louisville was a four seed because they beat nobody OOC. SMU was a six seed because they didn't beat anybody OOC (as Blue said, the Michigan win turned out to be meaningless).

You don't have to run the table OOC to earn a high seed in a mid-major conference. You just have to take some scalps and prove you belong. We've already beaten Michigan (up 5 on Texas w/3 to play) and one possession losses to ranked teams certainly going to be deal breakers. Win the remaining OOC games, win the conference, and win the conference tournament and I can't see us being worse than a three.
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I agree. The scenario stated above should secure a #3 seed even with the leadership of Joe Castiglione (Oklahoma) behind the selection process. Maybe it is to early to lose sleep over seeding issues we ultimately have no control over. Unfortunately I fall into the category of a fan who spends to much time concerned about seeding when there are to many other issues to figure out first. So I assume that is what KO is referring to with his Atlantis quote. Invoking SMU might turn out to be a false equivalence but as we stand right now there is more truth to the analogy in my opinion. My confidence is very high like yours that we will have a better OOC resume than SMU when all is said and done. SMU however lost to Gonzaga, Indiana and Arkansas (all solid tourney teams) OOC. SMU lost to Cincinnati twice and us in league play (that's it). They were rewarded with a 6 seed.

Michigan should make the tournament but they are no lock. Georgetown could contend for the BE title (and hopefully will after we beat them). Texas? hmmm I think they will get in (B12) but it won't be easy. My point is our team could run the OOC table or have 2 more slip ups. After Atlantis if its the latter we will be looking at a 6 seed or lower with no bad conference losses similar to SMU. Not taking all the power numbers into consideration and just going on gut this seems likely.

Lets get that 3 seed though. I love that possibility and still think we can realistically pull it off.
 
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BLUEDOGHOUSE said:
Cincinnati
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Tulsa will also be tough...they have a very experienced , talented and deep backcourt returning.
Memphis is young but talented and improving.
Temple has some talent, but we need to handle them and every team below them in The conference...no more Houston debacles, please.
 
huskyharry said:
Tulsa will also be tough...they have a very experienced , talented and deep backcourt returning.
Memphis is young but talented and improving.
Temple has some talent, but we need to handle them and every team below them in The conference...no more Houston debacles, please.
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Tulsa will be very tough. I am concerned mostly where we stand between the ears mentally across the board compared to top flight competition. It is hard to question the potential this team has on paper if we play our cards right from a personnel perspective going forward. Cincinnati can defend and rebound with anyone in the country but they don't have a facilitator on offense like Hamilton. So it could be argued neither one of us have the full package. November does matter just ask Miami. They are swinging on both ends of the spectrum. Hopefully it all works itself out. You just have to go back to the lab and hope for the best.
 
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champs99and04 said:
This. The idea that we are anything other than a one if we run the table from here (which obviously won't happen) is similarly insane.

Invoking Louisville and SMU teams from past years is a false equivalence. Louisville was a four seed because they beat nobody OOC. SMU was a six seed because they didn't beat anybody OOC (as Blue said, the Michigan win turned out to be meaningless).

You don't have to run the table OOC to earn a high seed in a mid-major conference. You just have to take some scalps and prove you belong. We've already beaten Michigan (up 5 on Texas w/3 to play) and one possession losses to ranked teams certainly going to be deal breakers. Win the remaining OOC games, win the conference, and win the conference tournament and I can't see us being worse than a three.
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Exactly as I was saying.

Just felt like I needed a back pat.
 
Hi-Low said:
The season isn't doomed but there is reason to be concerned....we have maybe 15 games on the schedule that have any meaning & 15 games that are basically meaningless except for "cosmetic" record purposes. So we are 1-2 with 12 to go....more close wins than close loses and we'll be fine.

Annoying but true....top 50 wins are really what matter on that special Sunday in March...."who did you play and how did you do".
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Syracuse has this setup every year.
 
Syracuse will be ranked this year and Gonzaga with those big guys and shooters could be final 4. I just don't feel like this year's team is at all like last year's with the influx of talent. We need to get out on shooters, they had open 3 looks and we didn't, but even on our worst night we are better than 1 for 11. Mark Few thinks we are a good team I assure you.
 
Here's the thing. Putting this in perspective guys - if this team scores 7 more points in the last two games - then we basically win this tournament, beat a top 10 team, an ACC school and a B1G school - and do it in spite of playing horrendously basketball. Glass Half Full/Empty..

And sure - the problems are a little deeper than that. There are serious things that have to be worked on - namely developing something resembling a post presence and playing better defense. Ollie's rotations are still kind of lousy and the team lacks aggression and focus. Now, at least.

Second half really left me feeling a lot better. Honestly - there's three more minutes in that game, we're probably singing a much different tune. Sure- shoulda, coulda woulda - but perspective.
 
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