Best coaches?
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I'm in agreement with your top 3.
Mulkey and Walz belong in the top 10 for sure.
There are 3 ignored groups, and I find it difficult to find that the other 5 listed can be proven to be better (obviously, it is all in criteria and personal liking), but -
- The long time coaches like Landers, Hatchell, CVS and even Fennelly have had relative success over a very long time. What differentiates Coale, Staley and Washington from them?
- The folks that toil at the somewhat lower levels to great success - for example, Bryan Georgis, Insell, others. I'm not convinced that one could claim them as top 10, but how do you judge them since their success has been at a level that won't get them to the Final 4.
- Coaches like Mitchell and McCallie, regardless of whether you like or don't like them, how do you differentiate Coale, Staley and Washington from them?
As to Frese, meh. Ultimately, if you hold the head coach responsible for the teams success, you would have to include her as a potential top 10. Blair is a unique case; he started late and he is in some ways a fine coach. Career wise, however, except for the NC which even he would acknowledge was helped by Vic Schaeffer, his Associate Head Coach, I'm not sure he has differentiated himself from the other candidates whose names I raised.
Mulkey and Walz belong in the top 10 for sure.
There are 3 ignored groups, and I find it difficult to find that the other 5 listed can be proven to be better (obviously, it is all in criteria and personal liking), but -
- The long time coaches like Landers, Hatchell, CVS and even Fennelly have had relative success over a very long time. What differentiates Coale, Staley and Washington from them?
- The folks that toil at the somewhat lower levels to great success - for example, Bryan Georgis, Insell, others. I'm not convinced that one could claim them as top 10, but how do you judge them since their success has been at a level that won't get them to the Final 4.
- Coaches like Mitchell and McCallie, regardless of whether you like or don't like them, how do you differentiate Coale, Staley and Washington from them?
As to Frese, meh. Ultimately, if you hold the head coach responsible for the teams success, you would have to include her as a potential top 10. Blair is a unique case; he started late and he is in some ways a fine coach. Career wise, however, except for the NC which even he would acknowledge was helped by Vic Schaeffer, his Associate Head Coach, I'm not sure he has differentiated himself from the other candidates whose names I raised.
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Brenda Frese has done nothing since Walz left. Her teams always lack fundamentals, and the big happy family she trys to convey is a myth.
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Geno,
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Tara, Muffet, Walz, Mulkey
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Blair, Coales, JPM, Coquese Washington, Warwick, Mitchell
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Frese, Hatchell
To me coaching at the college level has four parts: 1) running an organization, 2) recruiting talent, 3) coaching the talent and game off the court in practice, 4) coaching the game on the court.
To me Geno and staff are the only ones who consistently put all 4 parts together.
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Tara, Muffet, Walz, Mulkey
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Blair, Coales, JPM, Coquese Washington, Warwick, Mitchell
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Frese, Hatchell
To me coaching at the college level has four parts: 1) running an organization, 2) recruiting talent, 3) coaching the talent and game off the court in practice, 4) coaching the game on the court.
To me Geno and staff are the only ones who consistently put all 4 parts together.
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Matthew Mitchell is getting too short shrift here. Kentucky as a basketball brand may have been strong, but their WBB tradition was diddly poo before he took the reins. Three Elite Eights in four years is nothing to sniff at.
Kim Mulkey is taking a bit of heat for the Louisville loss, but no one other Geno has more bona fides over the past ten years.
My list:
1. Geno
(Huge gap)
2. Tara
3. Kim
4. Muffet
5. Mitchell
Honorable mentions: Walz, Blair, Sherri Coale, Freese, Giorgis
CViv deserves a lifetime achievement award, but she's not a top 10 coach right now. If I have a job opening, she'd be pretty low down on my list of people to call.
Kim Mulkey is taking a bit of heat for the Louisville loss, but no one other Geno has more bona fides over the past ten years.
My list:
1. Geno
(Huge gap)
2. Tara
3. Kim
4. Muffet
5. Mitchell
Honorable mentions: Walz, Blair, Sherri Coale, Freese, Giorgis
CViv deserves a lifetime achievement award, but she's not a top 10 coach right now. If I have a job opening, she'd be pretty low down on my list of people to call.
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I think we have a winner here. How can anyone leave off Mulkey? She's won the NC twice with 2 different squads during the Pat and Geno years. She took over a rock bottom program that hadn't made the playoffs in over 2 decades and won a title in just 5 years. She gets players to come to Waco for cryin out loud. The "X's and O's" criticism is funny. Because PHS was such a master.
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