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Dove said:
My sister in law lives in Astoria. and saw a beet store at Grand Central. She came home with one of these and I was amazed at how I enjoyed it by a fire. Now and and then a little goes in chili. This brew is available at larger retailers.


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Yeah, that's the one I thought was too much. A little goes a long way. I like it, but can't drink much.
 
Dove said:
Available where?
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Sadly, due to CT’s archaic and super-territorial distro laws, our fine state is the ONLY New England state that does not sell Schilling beers at retail. I have to drive about 20 minutes over the border to the closest DeCicco’s market in Bedford, NY to satisfy my Schilling needs. But the smoked beers are coming and they are coming at a much faster clip these days. Counterweight just dropped a more lightly smoked lager this week. I haven’t had it but a friend told me it’s delicious.

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HuskyHawk said:
That looks excellent. I find the Raucbier I've had is too much. But I love Jack's Abby's Smoke & Dagger. Magic Hat made a smoked beer years ago that I used to get (or it might have been Otter Creek).
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I’m also a fan of Smoke & Dagger and many other highly drinkable offerings from the good folks and former Stamfordites in Framingham. If you can get hands on, I highly recommend Fox Farm’s The Cabin smoked helles lager, and if you can stomach something smokier, The Camp rauchbier. FF really shows off their range of brewing skill with these beers.
 
karstenkibbe said:
Took a drive last night to Marlowe’s new spot to get their new Nectaron-hopped Eager to Share pale ale. This guy coaxes so much flavor out of a pale. Just fantastic.

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Is there a notable difference in taste from this summer's version? Asking because I loved the ETS I had in August and was planning on buying more when I head to CT in Dec. I'd hate to find out it's sharper. It was damned near perfect as it was for the style.
 
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storrsroars said:
Is there a notable difference in taste from this summer's version? Asking because I loved the ETS I had in August and was planning on buying more when I head to CT in Dec. I'd hate to find out it's sharper. It was damned near perfect as it was for the style.
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Not sharper or more bitter. It’s the same Citra and Mosaic base and exact same grain bill. He just did a late hopping of Nectaron, which, as you might guess, adds flavors of juicy stone fruit. This variant of EtS won’t be canned, but I’m sure the flagship version will be floating around in December. Try to make a pit stop in Nyack. He is launching the food menu next week.
 
HuskyHawk said:
New IPA from Trillium. Quite nice. Orange, soft malt, not too heavy.
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So I started my craft beer drinking career when I was in Boston ‘12-15 and will never forget when trillium was a total hole in the wall in Fort Point nobody knew about with a capacity of 6 because of how small the tasting “bar” was. Spent lots of time at the harpoon beer hall after they built it; before that, went at least once a month for a tour that ends with a 30 minute open bar with R+D stuff.

Now I’ve been in SD going on 7 years and initially, when I got here as a 26 year old, dove into all the crazy IPAs every other brewery was making. Nearly every time I go back to Boston (4-5 times now), I make it a point to get to the waterfront to go to the big brewery and kitchen.

Generally speaking, IPAs have become not very enjoyable for me. Everyone has been pumping out all these crazy double and triple IPAs that often don’t even taste great.

Have you noticed any momentum away from that trend?
 
Rocktheworld said:
So I started my craft beer drinking career when I was in Boston ‘12-15 and will never forget when trillium was a total hole in the wall in Fort Point nobody knew about with a capacity of 6 because of how small the tasting “bar” was. Spent lots of time at the harpoon beer hall after they built it; before that, went at least once a month for a tour that ends with a 30 minute open bar with R+D stuff.

Now I’ve been in SD going on 7 years and initially, when I got here as a 26 year old, dove into all the crazy IPAs every other brewery was making. Nearly every time I go back to Boston (4-5 times now), I make it a point to get to the waterfront to go to the big brewery and kitchen.

Generally speaking, IPAs have become not very enjoyable for me. Everyone has been pumping out all these crazy double and triple IPAs that often don’t even taste great.

Have you noticed any momentum away from that trend?
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I mean while there is still an abundance of monster IPAs, I’ve seen more and more breweries offering a range of styles. If you look at what Tree House offers - their menu ranges from all kinds of IPAs to lagers to pilsners to styles I’ve never heard of before. Tree House isn’t the only brewery to be mixing it up, from what I’ve seen.
 
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Rocktheworld said:
So I started my craft beer drinking career when I was in Boston ‘12-15 and will never forget when trillium was a total hole in the wall in Fort Point nobody knew about with a capacity of 6 because of how small the tasting “bar” was. Spent lots of time at the harpoon beer hall after they built it; before that, went at least once a month for a tour that ends with a 30 minute open bar with R+D stuff.

Now I’ve been in SD going on 7 years and initially, when I got here as a 26 year old, dove into all the crazy IPAs every other brewery was making. Nearly every time I go back to Boston (4-5 times now), I make it a point to get to the waterfront to go to the big brewery and kitchen.

Generally speaking, IPAs have become not very enjoyable for me. Everyone has been pumping out all these crazy double and triple IPAs that often don’t even taste great.

Have you noticed any momentum away from that trend?
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The short answer is “yes”. An emphatic yes. But all you need to do is take a peek in your SoCal backyard. Modern Times closing four locations before selling off to Maui Brewing. Stone selling to Sapporo. The west coast IPA is dead. Buried. RIP. The New England IPA is going nowhere because it is so freaking flavorful and brewed at such a high level by so many great specialty craft brewers. But palate fatigue for IPAs is occurring everywhere and traditional styles are growing in popularity rapidly. The other loser in 2022 is the fruited kettle sour (not to be confused with the sour IPA). The only people drinking that sugar-fruit puree slop (devoid of hops) on the regular anymore are potheads living in mom’s basement.
 
Rocktheworld said:
So I started my craft beer drinking career when I was in Boston ‘12-15 and will never forget when trillium was a total hole in the wall in Fort Point nobody knew about with a capacity of 6 because of how small the tasting “bar” was. Spent lots of time at the harpoon beer hall after they built it; before that, went at least once a month for a tour that ends with a 30 minute open bar with R+D stuff.

Now I’ve been in SD going on 7 years and initially, when I got here as a 26 year old, dove into all the crazy IPAs every other brewery was making. Nearly every time I go back to Boston (4-5 times now), I make it a point to get to the waterfront to go to the big brewery and kitchen.

Generally speaking, IPAs have become not very enjoyable for me. Everyone has been pumping out all these crazy double and triple IPAs that often don’t even taste great.

Have you noticed any momentum away from that trend?
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Nope. Because a really good IPA is still amazing.
 
HuskyHawk said:
Nope. Because a really good IPA is still amazing.
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So you’re still into the nigh-bitter 10% triple IPAs with 4 different hops, 3 of which you’ve never heard before?

That’s what I’m talking about
 
karstenkibbe said:
The short answer is “yes”. An emphatic yes. But all you need to do is take a peek in your SoCal backyard. Modern Times closing four locations before selling off to Maui Brewing. Stone selling to Sapporo. The west coast IPA is dead. Buried. RIP. The New England IPA is going nowhere because it is so freaking flavorful and brewed at such a high level by so many great specialty craft brewers. But palate fatigue for IPAs is occurring everywhere and traditional styles are growing in popularity rapidly. The other loser in 2022 is the fruited kettle sour (not to be confused with the sour IPA). The only people drinking that sugar-fruit puree slop (devoid of hops) on the regular anymore are potheads living in mom’s basement.
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I just showed my mon your post and she hasn't stopped laughing. Long live Skygazer!!!!!!!!
 
Dove said:
I just showed my mon your post and she hasn't stopped laughing. Long live Skygazer!!!!!!!!
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Now I’m really curious. Who is your mon? Taylor is a good guy and he takes great pride in the beers he brews. I have no doubt you’re getting those Watercolors Synergy Xmas variants!
 
Dove said:
I just showed my mom your post and she hasn't stopped laughing. Long live Skygazer!!!!!!!!
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Fixed it for me.

In all seriousness...I avoid Skygazer except for their occasional IPAs. Always excellent.

The only fruit puree brews I buy are those Treachery of Fruits. They're awesome guilty pleasures.
 
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Dove said:
Fixed it for me.

In all seriousness...I avoid Skygazer except for their occasional IPAs. Always excellent.

The only fruit puree brews I buy are those Treachery of Fruits. They're awesome guilty pleasures.
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Ditto. I am Short Throw fanboy. I consider those guys among the most underrated brewers in the U.S. Their IPAs and stouts are so good. And those Treachery gose variants are delicious without the insane sweetness of kettle sours.
 
Dove said:
Fixed it for me.

In all seriousness...I avoid Skygazer except for their occasional IPAs. Always excellent.

The only fruit puree brews I buy are those Treachery of Fruits. They're awesome guilty pleasures.
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The trillium Daily Serving's are all excellent.
 
Rocktheworld said:
So you’re still into the nigh-bitter 10% triple IPAs with 4 different hops, 3 of which you’ve never heard before?

That’s what I’m talking about
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I've heard of almost all of the hops at this point. I don't much like the triples, simply because it's just too much. Triple Sunshine is amazing. I tend to choose IPAs over Doubles for the same reason. Just too heavy, filling, too many calories. But yeah, I love New England Style IPAs that are juice, citrusy or maybe dank, with minimal bitterness and soft mouthfeel. Among craft beers, based on sales, those are still dominant for a reason.
 
Happy Thanksgiving. This is disappointing really.
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My brother and SIL from Danbury visited for the long weekend and came bearing gifts.

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The pour is the Positive Outcomes. Quite the head. Good, but a bit of green apple-ish tart bite to it. Might be the first Nelson hops I've had. Not a direct hit for my palate, but certainly a 4-pack I'll finish quickly. I'd asked my brother to find more Eager to Share, but it was sold out at the store where he went and this was the only Marlowe IPA available.

I had a Combover on T-day. Wasn't intending to, but when I was pulling apart the 4-pak, one started hissing, so I drank it at 10:30am and didn't linger over it much. I wasn't prepared to give it its due, so that'll wait for another day.

The Flurpy is not one I'd buy for myself. It's interesting, and I can see the appeal, but it's a rare occasion when I'd order a stout flavored this strongly. Does taste like you dropped chocolate ice cream and a drop of vanilla into a good milk stout. Just not my thing.
 
storrsroars said:
My brother and SIL from Danbury visited for the long weekend and came bearing gifts.

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The pour is the Positive Outcomes. Quite the head. Good, but a bit of green apple-ish tart bite to it. Might be the first Nelson hops I've had. Not a direct hit for my palate, but certainly a 4-pack I'll finish quickly. I'd asked my brother to find more Eager to Share, but it was sold out at the store where he went and this was the only Marlowe IPA available.

I had a Combover on T-day. Wasn't intending to, but when I was pulling apart the 4-pak, one started hissing, so I drank it at 10:30am and didn't linger over it much. I wasn't prepared to give it its due, so that'll wait for another day.

The Flurpy is not one I'd buy for myself. It's interesting, and I can see the appeal, but it's a rare occasion when I'd order a stout flavored this strongly. Does taste like you dropped chocolate ice cream and a drop of vanilla into a good milk stout. Just not my thing.
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Combover is a great NEIPA but bear in mind that that is NOT the flagship style of Schillings; they’re a Czech-European style brewery with just a smaller arm of American style beers. A very good beer in its own right, but doesn’t sniff any of the good stuff they do. Not sure if they export their traditional stuff, luckily I am close and can try all their new releases!
 
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MJKI said:
Combover is a great NEIPA but bear in mind that that is NOT the flagship style of Schillings; they’re a Czech-European style brewery with just a smaller arm of American style beers. A very good beer in its own right, but doesn’t sniff any of the good stuff they do. Not sure if they export their traditional stuff, luckily I am close and can try all their new releases!
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A decent NEIPA is still better than the best Pilsner ever made. Fight me. ;)
 
HuskyHawk said:
Doubtful, but I'd still like to try it! Which one is that @karstenkibbe ?
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That deliciousness is Stands to Reason, a smoked lager from Suarez Family Brewery in Livingston, NY. It’s probably the best representation of the style available in the Northeast. It’s a completely different palate experience from drinking Very Green!
 
karstenkibbe said:
That deliciousness is Stands to Reason, a smoked lager from Suarez Family Brewery in Livingston, NY. It’s probably the best representation of the style available in the Northeast. It’s a completely different palate experience from drinking Very Green!
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Very Green isn't really a favorite of mine (Juice Machine, King Julius, Julius...), but I get the point. I've never seen that here in Mass, but maybe I'll grab some Smoke & Dagger, always enjoy that.

I may grab some Mayflower Porter too. It's still the best U.S. Porter I've had that wasn't some special barrel aged thing.
 
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