Bazz: NCAA leaves players hungry

[seanmc94]

If kids are opting to live off campus; making the dining hall not available; who's fault is that? You are an athlete first, student second, social being third. I know it's not as cool long in the dorm. However, if it gets you the calories you need, so be it.

 

[Yonick]

If kids are opting to live off campus; making the dining hall not available; who's fault is that? You are an athlete first, student second, social being third. I know it's not as cool long in the dorm. However, if it gets you the calories you need, so be it.

Don't know if you saw this, or not, Sean, but AAC commish Aresco was at the Memphis game Sat. He stated the AAC is prepared to approve stipends, assuming the big 5 conferences approve this. Supposedly, the approval vote Is just a formality.
My question is if/when this measure is approved what will the New Big East do?

 

[Henry]

I hadn't seen a thread about this, but I think this is absolutely disgusting that the NCAA can profit off of these players and leave them hungry. It is very strong and courageous for Bazz to speak about this.

Shabazz Napier: NCAA Revenue Doesn’t Feed Cash-Strapped Players

I went to college for academics. There was no feeder system for my future profession. I had to figure it out for myself. I had an academic scholarship for tuition but had to take out loans for room,board and books. Shabazz gets tuition,room and board and I assume books are covered. Also, if he is good enough he may play in the NBA. Even if I were good enough as a BIO major there were literally tens of thousands of us who had to figure out own future profession. Athletics is an opportunity to get a free college education and maybe the chance to play in the NBA. Everyone knows the NCAA is a racket and those who don't like it have the chance to do something else. I find it very hard to believe the parents can't contribute enough for a kid to buy the proverbial pizza once a week.

 

[seanmc94]

Don't know if you saw this, or not, Sean, but AAC commish Aresco was at the Memphis game Sat. He stated the AAC is prepared to approve stipends, assuming the big 5 conferences approve this. Supposedly, the approval vote Is just a formality.
My question is if/when this measure is approved what will the New Big East do?

I would hope they would follow suit. Logical to do so. That being said; you never know.

 

[uconnfan68]

I remember back in the day Abrosimova was a waitress at some restaurant and people would leave her 100 dollars on 8 dollar checks.

OK, but to be clear, she wasn't in school then. There is no statute of limitations for the NCAA.

 

[BoatShow]

OK, but to be clear, she wasn't in school then. There is no statute of limitations for the NCAA.

I thought it was like over the summer when it was widely known she was struggling to get enough money together to fly her mother in for a game.

 

[Husky25]

I went to college for academics. There was no feeder system for my future profession. I had to figure it out for myself. I had an academic scholarship for tuition but had to take out loans for room,board and books. Shabazz gets tuition,room and board and I assume books are covered. Also, if he is good enough he may play in the NBA. Even if I were good enough as a BIO major there were literally tens of thousands of us who had to figure out own future profession. Athletics is an opportunity to get a free college education and maybe the chance to play in the NBA. Everyone knows the NCAA is a racket and those who don't like it have the chance to do something else. I find it very hard to believe the parents can't contribute enough for a kid to buy the proverbial pizza once a week.

There is certainly a difference in the amount of aide received, but I don't think you can necessarily call college athletics a feeder system that is any different than that for accounting or biology. Was there internship or co-op opportunities for you? If so, where you offered a job at its conclusion? If so, could that be considered a feeder system? I believe it can.

Disregarding non-revenue generating sports for a moment, even if a high school athlete gets an athletic scholarship, about 1% are as fortunate. Further, about 1% go on to that sport at a professional level. That means less than 1/100th of 1% of high school scholarship athletes are fortunate enough to play in a pro league and have that occupation sustain them as their sole livelihood. The numbers get even more miniscule when expanded to the non-revenue generating sports (e.g. I'm pretty sure that field hockey is not one of those sole-sustaining careers).

I'm more or less against any pay-for-play scenario (even if it is a few hundred dollars per semester), unless it can be applied equitably. The NCAA has already demonstrated that they cannot equitably regulate current infractions, let alone additional rules for an entirely new system. Even if they could, any amount of money is not enough. It is a widely held notion that Johnny Manziel comes from money, yet he still sold his ink-penned signature for $10,000.

 

[freescooter]

We can't buy him a burgher. Food plans may not cover weekends. He can't work, even in the summer. Some money would make sense just to avoid fencing laptops to make ends meet.

What planet are you living on? Look I support some kind of a stipend. But UConn's dining halls are open all weekend. So are most others. When student athletes are on campus for athletic-related programs, say practice over Christmas break, the school can provide them meals and most do. At most schools once your in the dining hall, they don't limit what you eat either. so this idea that the players starve because they have to eat dining hall food...well that's kind of crazy. As far as summer work, that's not the case. That they mostly choose to focus on their games is a choice. Tell the kids who work a couple of jobs while going to school and hope to scramble together enough cash to pay the next semester's tuition and graduate with debts how tough life is.

 

[Inyatkin]

Tell the kids who work a couple of jobs while going to school and hope to scramble together enough cash to pay the next semester's tuition and graduate with debts how tough life is.

This is a typical response, to make it some kind of competition.
In fact, you can favor more support for non-athletes who are struggling and also think that basketball players who make millions of dollars for people who never set foot on the court aren't being treated as they should be.

 

[huskyniner]

I just took a trip to the co-op yesterday and bought myself a new #13 jersey. I'd say after covering cost of production, at least 50% of the $80 I spent should be be given to Mr. Napier. Put his name on the back of my jersey to be sure.

 

[kyle]

"Included in that $63 million budget is $10.2 million, about 16 percent, for athletic scholarships, which the department pays to the school. UConn's athletic department cleared a profit of $126,000 for the year ending June 30, 2010, and $91,000 the previous year. "So we have been fairly consistent," Enright said."

http://articles.courant.com/2011-12...1215_1_fbs-football-programs-eada-fiesta-bowl

Where is all this money going to come from?

 

[James]

What planet are you living on? Look I support some kind of a stipend. But UConn's dining halls are open all weekend. So are most others. When student athletes are on campus for athletic-related programs, say practice over Christmas break, the school can provide them meals and most do. At most schools once your in the dining hall, they don't limit what you eat either. so this idea that the players starve because they have to eat dining hall food...well that's kind of crazy. As far as summer work, that's not the case. That they mostly choose to focus on their games is a choice. Tell the kids who work a couple of jobs while going to school and hope to scramble together enough cash to pay the next semester's tuition and graduate with debts how tough life is.

kid trains like a professional, you want him to perform like a professional, dont feed him like a 19 year old zit faced bio major. the importance of nutrition in athletic endeavors can't be emphasized enough.

 

[dtrumpet]

The problem with a stipend is that all the D1 athletes will need to be paid, there is no way the ncaa is going to separate revenue producing from non, since many of the revenue producing ones keep the others going. And how would the small schools handle that?
I know a lot of athletes come from little money, but it is also a fact that this years out of state tuition at uconn is 42k (in state 24k). Yes, athletes are making a lot of $$ for the school, but lets not forget they are getting something worth $170,000 (and rising) in return.

 

[WhereistheDove?]

kid trains like a professional, you want him to perform like a professional, dont feed him like a 19 year old zit faced bio major. the importance of nutrition in athletic endeavors can't be emphasized enough.

I assure you that you can eat very healthy in the dining halls. It may not taste great, but you can eat very healthy. I may not understand you, but are you saying that with a stipend they'd eat like a professional athlete? These are teenagers and early 20s guys, I assure you a stipend won't accomplish that.

 

[David 76]

What planet are you living on? Look I support some kind of a stipend. But UConn's dining halls are open all weekend. So are most others. When student athletes are on campus for athletic-related programs, say practice over Christmas break, the school can provide them meals and most do. At most schools once your in the dining hall, they don't limit what you eat either. so this idea that the players starve because they have to eat dining hall food...well that's kind of crazy. As far as summer work, that's not the case. That they mostly choose to focus on their games is a choice. Tell the kids who work a couple of jobs while going to school and hope to scramble together enough cash to pay the next semester's tuition and graduate with debts how tough life is.

I was one of those people who worked my butt off in the summer. But if the coach tells a kid that if he wants to play next year, he needs to go to a bigs camp or gain strength and experience over the summer, the kid knows he has to go. BTW, that message begins at the middle school level if you are on a travel team (must play in an off-season league, must go to skill camp).
Oh, and meal plans these days come with points that you spend. It is not open trough every mealtime you are around. Not sure which plan the athletes are on, but I know we ate a lot of extra food